Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS, Part 35

[JosephSHaas]

Here's the big UL article about it.

http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Ed+Brown+erupts%2c+gets+37+years&articleId=0f414ff5-a0d1-4a30-b917-f5d4c70da227

Thanks KBC.  Here's what I did just type to send in:

"You're right George O. in Berlin of:  " it was about control." The N.H. Article 12 "control" in our Bill of Rights that is not supposed to be withOUT our 1-8-17 U.S. Constitutional "Consent".  The Feds have yet to file their 40USC255 to 40UISC3112 papers with our N.H. Office of Secretary of State as required by the "shall" word in N.H. R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 since it "Takes Two to Tango" as they say, or a conditional offer YET to be accepted is NOT Consent, as decided by that Adams 1943 U.S. Supreme Court case! - - - - - Plus - "Shelley Andrews, Plainfield, NH" you're WRONG, re: your "Our taxpayer dollars paid for all the police...OUR $$$ not the Browns who avoided paying their taxes." BUT that they DID pay their property taxes for this Article 12 protection! The end does NOT justify the means as for procedural due process withIN the Rule of Law, not just the substantial that is flawed too, in that the 16th Amendment has NO enforcement clause as do the surrounding ones. "To lay and collect" of to lay being either to apply or impose as a levy to collect and collect! That's redundant.  I chose the former of to apply and say request denied! (;-) M.83-50-D of my case that I won in this SAME court. "

Mod: a done-deal; re: "Thank you for your comments. Your participation helps us bring you the most comprehensive coverage of the Granite State from Coos to the Seacoast."

[Lumpy]

After the lousy (sad and predictable) outcome of Ed's sentencing too I think SAU is looking to create a national event in support if Ed.  If anyone is interested I suggest tuning in to SAU on Facebook.  It will likely not be a joyous event but certainly meaningful.

[JosephSHaas]

RE: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100112/FRONTPAGE/1120302&template=single

entitled: "Take your gov't beliefs* elsewhere!"

of: "This judge and U.S. Attorney are mere parrots to the doctor.

Re:

(1) ""The beliefs held by Mr. Brown are also held by a broad subculture," wrote Dr. Shawn Channell, who compared Brown's views with the "unrealistic" beliefs held by members of organized religions. "

(2) " Singal said, before announcing the sentence. "It is sad that Mr. Brown and his beliefs have caused others to be entrapped in his web." "

(3) "U.S. Attorney John Kacavas said after the hearing ..."People who are fundamentalist in their beliefs are often not dissuaded by reason or long incarceration," ."

* The fact of the matter is that this court lacks jurisdiction! as will be found by the Appeals Court in Boston on the other case to come down on this Maine Judge like a ton a bricks. Reference his illegal hearings in Portland in violation of 18USC3232 as the end does not justify the means! in what is supposed to be "The Rule of Law." "

Mod: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100112/FRONTPAGE/1120302#comment-101773

[JosephSHaas]

See also:

Re:  http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100111/BREAK/100119999/0/FRONTPAGE

of: "A call to the federal FRAUD unit is in order.
New By JosephSHaas on Tue, 01/12/2010 - 11:52

The end does NOT justify the means.

WHERE do you think this federal judge came from?

Maine! To where he held illegal hearings!

in violation of Title 18 U.S. Code Section 3232."

[Jim Johnson]

Happy Birthday Joseph!

[JosephSHaas]

Happy Birthday Joseph!

Thank you; and Happy New Year to you!

To check my mailbox later today to see if I did get a present from the Dover Judge: Motion to attach the Body of Ed for jury trial on my civil case granted.  -- And if so, is Ed still there? Or if granted and him gone, a "moot" part of the case?

In the meantime you can also call me "MrTideman" = my trade name over at W.M.U.R. Channel 9 out of Manchester from where I remember them selling Martin J. "Red" Beckman those 1/2 hr. info-mercials back in the 1980s when I first met Ed; "Red" running for President back then, as against these I.R.S. goons and their thugs.

Here's my latest over there at Channel 9:

" Re: someoneshouldspeakup: next time THINK before you write!  Ed likes the U.S., it's the bad apples in the barrel he doesn't like: it's called corruption. And don't lump me into "the rest of us"! Yes, my employer pays the taxes charged by the feds against me  indirectly to the Feds from work for me, and I've written her not to with the Devvy Kidd info and she tells me her accountant "said" so to her, even AFTER the latest paperwork!?  I doubt it! I claim a paper reply to my paper claim. The 16th Amendment has NO enforcement clause! To "lay and collect", To lay meaning to apply or impose.  So to impose as in a levy to collect and collect!? That's redundant George Orwell "1984" Double Speak!! I chose to apply, and say to the gov't: request DENIED! especially here in N.H. where they have NO jurisdictional authority YET since they have FAILed to file their 40USC255 to 40USC3112 papers with Bill Gardner's N.H. Office of Secretary of State as required by the "shall" word in N.H. R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution: a fact that the judge REFUSED to give over to the jury to weigh in reaching their verdict.  A Maine judge BTW who does trample on our Article 14 N.H. Bill of Rights to "complete" justice. See also that very last sentence of Article 12.  The local COPs in violation of their own RSA Ch. 42:1 + 92:2 oaths of office, instead they support the federal statutes! No wonder there is no executive check and balance.  They're in bed together! "

Mod: http://www.wmur.com/news/22204555/detail.html

And here's what goofy says: 
Jan. 12, 2010 2:28pm EST | from manchestersocialist   "MrTideman: you don't want to pay taxes! I get it. You just want to leech off the rest of us who do! Parasite, don't call the police if you've been assaulted or worse, don't call the fire dept. if your house catches fire. Don't drive on the interstate highway, don't send your kids to school, give them health care. Better yet, go move way out in the woods with a tent!"

And of my reply to him: "manchestersocialist: take your BLENDing of federal AND state/county/local taxes elsewhere! Your concoction is beyond a mere blending of different ingredients to that of a devising: an actual con-triving aka a fabrication and in this case a deception that the rest of us ought not to believe you, as you presume too much also/known/as an assumption, to assume, that as they say: makes and ass out of u and me, but not me in YOUR presumption of what? being boldly arrogant, or acceptance of a belief based on evidence or supposition.  For you it would have to be the latter as an act of supposing, as an unproven statement, to suppose being "To assume to be true".  Unfortunately for you both Ed and I plus many others do pay our property taxes for this Article 12 protection NOT afforded by the Selectmen of Plainield who either provide such, or give him his money back! Thieves! Your "belief" has just been shattered.  Now what say ye? Plus I also register my car and pay these excise taxes on gasoline even though that too at the State level is un-lawful too, as against Article 95 of the N.H. Constitution.  They either fix it, or set up more toll booths. "

[JosephSHaas]

I guess that I've had my 15 seconds of shame (as John Walsh says on AMW-TV), over at WMUR, and so when I tried posting the following it reads that some word they find offensive therein, but which one?  I don't have the time to guess and told Ch. 9 on their survey form:

"
More Ch. 9 comments.
From:    Joseph S. Haas (josephshaas at hotmail.com)
Sent:    Tue 1/12/10 3:53 PM
To:    josephshaas at hotmail.com

Re:

of: "crzhrs: who is "we"? Yes, I get your point about the wars, plus may I add that of having to pay for Nancy Pelosi's jet: see http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

If the "we" are for us in N.H. then one "nut" or I'd rather say: "nugget" of truth can be found at Attorney Lowell 'Larry" Becraft's website from Huntsville, Alabama over at: http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm It lists what is required by the feds in each state per the 1-8-17 "Consent".  In N.H. that is that they have to file with the Sec. of State as compared to the governor in Florida.  Thus we "volunteer" to the Feds, and I say ONLY when lawful and legal, and so let's have those other states pay OUR share of the costs of the union, will force that GSA/ General Services Administration "head" of agency to finally file the papers here in N.H. when the revenue drops when the other state citizens wake up to the truth.  Of to pay not what is wanted, but needed in what is supposed to be public servants operating in a "frugal" manner, like our Art. 38 -N.H. ones have taken an oath to do, but do us a dis-honor. "

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in reply to:

"If we don't pay federal taxes who funds Homeland Security? Who funds two wars started by George Bush?
Jan. 12, 2010 3:19pm EST | from crzhrs "

and:

"MrTideman: your postings are like a Waldorf salad. IOW a word salad with a heaping of NUTS!!

Jan. 12, 2010 3:03pm EST | from manchestersocialist "  "


Mod: http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=3868.msg316127#msg316127

[JosephSHaas]

Somebody told me that the video with Marie was done by NECN, (not WMUR), and so I found:

http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/2010/01/11/NH-tax-evader-gets-37-years-on/1263229340.html

but with no video.
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Mod: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=%22Ed+Brown%22+%22Marie+Miller%22&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&oq=%22Ed+Brown%22+%22Marie+Miller%22&fp=e8d6ef47431c6a4a

[JosephSHaas]

I see that The Freedom Sledders are interested too:

http://www.freedomsledder.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27584

[JosephSHaas]

You'd think that The "Foster's Daily Democrat" would write up something more local for Dover, rather than to just rely on the A.P. story:

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100111/NEWS0201/100119922

[JosephSHaas]

The south to the rescue?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/1419332.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=1261615#Comments_Container

from: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation/AP/story/1419332.html

"Although there was only one supporter in the courtroom, re: Marie Miller, who Kathy quotes, I too met Kathy on the courthouse steps yesterday but that she was not interested in facts, just opinions as in "My heart aches" from Marie. The video on T.V. showed us leaving to go to the restaurant across the street. What Kathy could have reported, and especially for you southerners who I found here by a GOOGLE search, is the fact that like New Hampshire R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 your state of Florida likewise has a statute from 1-8-17 of the U.S. Constitution.  For both of our states the Feds are in non - compliance with the law: no 40USC255 to 40USC3112 federal filing of their papers with either the N.H. Secretary of State nor your governor. See: http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm  "

[JosephSHaas]

Or maybe the westerners to the rescue?

RE: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/business/national/story/984844.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=658144#Comments_Container

from: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/business/national/story/984844.html


of: "Although there was only one supporter in the courtroom, re: Marie Miller, who Kathy quotes, I too met Kathy on the courthouse steps yesterday but that she was not interested in facts, just opinions as in "My heart aches" from Marie. The video on T.V. showed us leaving to go to the restaurant across the street. What Kathy could have reported, and especially for you westerners who I found here by a GOOGLE search, is the fact that like New Hampshire R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 your state of CAlif.ornia likewise has a statute from 1-8-17 of the U.S. Constitution.  In New Hampshire the Feds are in non - compliance with the law: no 40USC255 to 40USC3112 federal filing of their papers with our N.H. Secretary of State. Has anybody checked for CAlif.ornia?  See: http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm  "

[JosephSHaas]

Or how about South Carolina?

RE: http://www.thestate.com/370/story/1105402.html

and: http://www.thestate.com/370/story/1105402.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=9871149#Comments_Container

of: ""Although there was only one supporter in the courtroom, re: Marie Miller, who Kathy quotes, I too met Kathy on the courthouse steps yesterday but that she was not interested in facts, just opinions as in "My heart aches" from Marie. The video on T.V. showed us leaving to go to the restaurant across the street. What Kathy could have reported, and especially for you southerners who I found here by a GOOGLE search, is the fact that like New Hampshire R.S.A. Chapter 123:1 your state of South Carolina likewise has a statute from 1-8-17 of the U.S. Constitution.  In New Hampshire the Feds are in non - compliance with the law: no 40USC255 to 40USC3112 federal filing of their papers with our N.H. Secretary of State. Has anybody checked for South Carolina?  See: http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm  "

[JosephSHaas]

Here's something I haven't seen before: a wikipedia for both Ed and Elaine over at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown

[JosephSHaas]

RE: http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2010/01/37-years-for-tax-evader-ed-brown.html

of: "In reply to Jane of 1-11-10 @ 04:12 PM:

"What, he didn't go off on the Jews? Jews are always right up there on his list. He must be losing his touch."

Jane, The World Jewish Congress has a great set of bylaws that read of that their members support The Rule of Law.  The trouble here in N.H. is that our Federal Rep. Paul Hodes is a member but who is in violation of such as a liar.  He allowed the lie to him from the Deputy Court Clerk Dan Lynch to stand.  And that lie is that Local Rule 72.5 makes it O.K. to violate 18USC3232 in that ALL proceedings SHALL be had in the jurisdictional district of where the crime occurred. But that can be waived by this rule!? No way! That is a lie, because that's a CIVIL rule not supposed to be applicable to this CRIMINAL case! reference those illegal trips from N.H. to Portland, Maine. The end does NOT justify the means, unless you are Paul Hodes who refuses to impeach his "brother of the Bar" George Singal in his Art. III, Sec. 3 "inferior Court of Congress". "