Freedom to Travel Event, Part 1

[Kat Kanning]

So will that be your pre-arrest arrest?

[Russell Kanning]

sure...if I am in jail on 6/11 then someone else has to go for me.

[Russell Kanning]

Are you going to get a burn permit??

What class of crime will you be commiting?

of coarse not

I don't care

[FTL_Ian]

I wasn't suggesting for a moment that you not do the event.  I think it's a great idea, and just because 5 loudmouths on a forum somewhere have an opinion doesn't mean there aren't a lot of others out there that will take our site.  I just found their responses sad.

[Russell Kanning]

It is surprising how people will nitpick the revolutionaries and give the government a pass.......I am not the reason people take so long to go through airports.

[Neo Hantoni]

I think it's a great idea, and just because 5 loudmouths on a forum somewhere have an opinion doesn't mean there aren't a lot of others out there that will take our site.  I just found their responses sad.

This sums up the heart of the problem here.  The posters here are heavily involved in coddling an alternative reality, ignoring or rejecting everything and everyone on the outside that disagrees with you.  This is a formula for self-destruction.

It is especially upsetting to know that some of the people agitating for this garbage are non-residents.

You dismissed the opinions of those 5 posters (for no apparent reason other than that you disagree with them).  Yet, it is likely that they are representative of general opinion.

[Russell Kanning]

This sums up the heart of the problem here.? The posters here are heavily involved in coddling an alternative reality, ignoring or rejecting everything and everyone on the outside that disagrees with you.? This is a formula for self-destruction.

It is especially upsetting to know that some of the people agitating for this garbage are non-residents.

Some people call it brainstorming or planning.

Non-residents of what ... the United States?

[AlanM]

Non-residents of what ... the United States?

The "free state".

Apparently you haven't noticed this is a NATIONAL issue.

[Neo Hantoni]

This sums up the heart of the problem here.  The posters here are heavily involved in coddling an alternative reality, ignoring or rejecting everything and everyone on the outside that disagrees with you.  This is a formula for self-destruction.

It is especially upsetting to know that some of the people agitating for this garbage are non-residents.

Some people call it brainstorming or planning.

Call it whatever you want, but you're doing to the exclusion of those offering sound advice.

Non-residents of what ... the United States?

The posts in question were on town-specific New Hampshire forums.

[Neo Hantoni]

Non-residents of what ... the United States?

The "free state".

Apparently you haven't noticed this is a NATIONAL issue.

Well, since it is a NATIONAL issue, perhaps, then you will stop sending press releases almost exclusively to New Hampshire-based organizations and discussion groups.

[AlanM]

Non-residents of what ... the United States?

The "free state".

Apparently you haven't noticed this is a NATIONAL issue.

Sorry, I thought NHfree.com had something to do with New Hampshire.?

This issue, which is national in scope, also affects NH residents. 

[FTL_Ian]

This sums up the heart of the problem here.  The posters here are heavily involved in coddling an alternative reality, ignoring or rejecting everything and everyone on the outside that disagrees with you.  This is a formula for self-destruction.

I didn't ignore what those people said.  It once again signaled that we have a lot of work to do to overcome the pro-state mindset.

What was especially annoying were the comments by the people that were hoping we'd stir up "discussion" about other issues.  Just more armchair quarterbacks.  No one is stopping them from getting involved, except themselves.  It's easy to criticize, difficult to take action.

It is especially upsetting to know that some of the people agitating for this garbage are non-residents.

So, be upset.  One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

You dismissed the opinions of those 5 posters (for no apparent reason other than that you disagree with them).  Yet, it is likely that they are representative of general opinion.

You don't know anything about the "general opinion".  You just have another opinion.  If that's the general opinion, it's based on ignorance, and hopefully this event will open a few eyes.  Especially if we frame it with the right language.

[Kat Kanning]

Well, since it is a NATIONAL issue, perhaps, then you will stop sending press releases almost exclusively to New Hampshire-based organizations and discussion groups.

We have been sending them nationally.  You're not being very nice when you're hiding your identity, Karl.

[Russell Kanning]

Well, since it is a NATIONAL issue, perhaps, then you will stop sending press releases almost exclusively to New Hampshire-based organizations and discussion groups.

I don't even know what you are talking about. We are sending info out to whoever might care. Dada posts them on NH forums because he hangs out on them. Kat and I are busy finding people who don't agree with the Real ID etc..... If you are part of some group that doesn't want our press releases anymore.....why don't you just say that.

Demanding "Your Papers Please!" is wrong....do you agree?

You must agree with some opinions on this forum otherwise why do you post here. If you think we are a small group of people deluding ourselves...then maybe you should spend your time elsewhere. There are lots of forums I don't agree with....so I don't hang out there. We enjoy planning and laughting with each other here. What do you like to do?

I don't see why we can't use this forum for people inside and outside of NH trying to make life better for people inside and outside of NH.

[Russell Kanning]

If that's the general opinion, it's based on ignorance, and hopefully this event will open a few eyes.? Especially if we frame it with the right language.

I can't imagine keeping guys like Ian out of this loop or ignoring the people inside NH.
What kind of language do you think will help?.....I have been going with Freedom to Travel