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Freedom to Travel Event, Part 1

Started by Kat Kanning, May 17, 2005, 06:37 AM NHFT

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FTL_Ian

Quote from: president on May 20, 2005, 12:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 11:46 AM NHFT
Just more armchair quarterbacks.  No one is stopping them from getting involved, except themselves.  It's easy to criticize, difficult to take action.
So when will you be coming to the free state to "scare" some of the socialists out?

When I'm good and ready.  Hopefully they'll already be leaving by the time I get there.  I think NHFree.com should at some point start a "Socialist move-out" fund, to give financial assistance to those who wish to leave but just can't afford the greyhound ticket.

FTL_Ian

Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 12:17 PM NHFT

I can't imagine keeping guys like Ian out of this loop or ignoring the people inside NH.
What kind of language do you think will help?.....I have been going with Freedom to Travel


I have no suggestions, I thought the press release was fine.  We're never going to make everyone comfortable, nor should we try.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 12:18 PM NHFTI think NHFree.com should at some point start a "Socialist move-out" fund, to give financial assistance to those who wish to leave but just can't afford the greyhound ticket.
I just couldn't to it......getting rid of welfare recipients by giving them money?.....they might just come back when they run out. :'(

Russell Kanning

Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 12:19 PM NHFT
I have no suggestions, I thought the press release was fine.? We're never going to make everyone comfortable, nor should we try.
Do you guys have a show on Saturday nights? Maybe we could call you for a debriefing. 8)

FTL_Ian

Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 12:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 12:18 PM NHFTI think NHFree.com should at some point start a "Socialist move-out" fund, to give financial assistance to those who wish to leave but just can't afford the greyhound ticket.
I just couldn't to it......getting rid of welfare recipients by giving them money?.....they might just come back when they run out. :'(

We could get them to sign a contract saying they'll never set foot in the state again...

FTL_Ian


Russell Kanning

Quote from: Neo Hantoni on May 20, 2005, 11:29 AM NHFTCall it whatever you want, but you're doing to the exclusion of those offering sound advice.

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Non-residents of what ... the United States?

The posts in question were on town-specific New Hampshire forums.
Is that you Karl? It is really hard to keep up with you....Dave Mincin and I have decided that isn't good behavior and you are going against sage advice. :D
Do you think we should only do NH specific events......or keep our national events out of NH? I don't even know what your sound advice is.

GT

Quote from: katdillon on May 20, 2005, 08:56 AM NHFT
When you talk to reporters, how about telling them what it's like on the Israeli airline that's never been hijacked?

Anyone ever fly on El Al? I had a friend who used to live in Germany he flew El Al a couple of times. The airport terminal had a 3 foot elevated walkway around the perimeter of the room. The security personel carried fully automatic weapons on the walkway. Their security is far more rigorous than anything in the US.

El Al Airlines:
We may decide to refuse to carry you or your Baggage if, in the exercise of our reasonable discretion, we consider that one or more of the following have occurred or we believe may occur:

you do not have, or do not appear to have, valid travel documents, may seek to enter a country through which you may be in transit, or for which you do not have valid travel documents, destroy your travel documents during flight or have refused to allow us to photocopy your travel documents or refuse to surrender your travel documents to the flight crew, against receipt, when so requested.

For reasons of safety and security we may request that you permit a search and scan of your person and a search, scan or x-ray of your Baggage. With respect to a search of your person, please be aware that security authorities are entitled to conduct intensive personal searches and we have no responsibility for any embarrassment or discomfort caused. With respect to your Baggage, if you are not available or present, your Baggage may be opened and searched in your absence for the purpose of determining whether you are in possession of or whether your Baggage contains any item described in paragraph 8.3.1 or any firearms, ammunition, weapons or similar items which have not been presented to us in accordance with paragraphs 8.3.2, 8.3.3 or 8.3.7. If you are unwilling to comply with such request we may refuse to carry you and your Baggage. Please be aware that, in your absence, security authorities (such as, but not limited to, the USA Transport Security Administration and Israeli security personnel) are entitled to open and check your Baggage. If you decide to lock your Checked Baggage, neither us nor the security authorities are liable for damage caused to locked baggage that must be opened for security purposes. In the event a search or scan causes Damage to you, or a search, an x-ray or scan causes damage to your Baggage, we shall not be liable for such Damage unless due to our fault or negligence.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 12:33 PM NHFTWe could get them to sign a contract saying they'll never set foot in the state again...
...a contract with a socialist.....isn't that some sort of joke? ?;D

FTL_Ian

Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 12:38 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 20, 2005, 12:33 PM NHFTWe could get them to sign a contract saying they'll never set foot in the state again...
...a contract with a socialist.....isn't that some sort of joke?  ;D

Touche`

Neo Hantoni

Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 12:37 PM NHFT
Do you think we should only do NH specific events......or keep our national events out of NH? I don't even know what your sound advice is.

Hold on.  After one poster dismissed the opinions and concerns of NH residents, and I stated that they should not be dismissed, I was then told this was a national event anyway (another form of dismissal of NH residents, IMO).  I don't care if your events are state or nationally focused.

Anyway, clearly I do not agree with the general approach taken by activists in this forum.  I have called the truth as I see it, and for some, it has not been pretty.  It is not personal, but a strong difference in opinion.  Therefore, I will leave you to it, and this will be my final post here.  Good luck.

Russell Kanning

Now that makes sense. If Neo disagrees with almost everything we plan here, then it makes sense to spend his time elsewhere.

JonM

Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 12:15 PM NHFT
You must agree with some opinions on this forum otherwise why do you post here. If you think we are a small group of people deluding ourselves...then maybe you should spend your time elsewhere. There are lots of forums I don't agree with....so I don't hang out there. We enjoy planning and laughting with each other here. What do you like to do?

I use multi-billion dollar military satellites to find Tupperware hidden in the woods!

Ron Helwig

Quote from: president on May 20, 2005, 01:52 PM NHFT
Quote from: russellkanning on May 20, 2005, 01:39 PM NHFT
Now that makes sense. If Neo disagrees with almost everything we plan here, then it makes sense to spend his time elsewhere.
Yes, it has become very obvious that the "good guys" that post here do not want to hear about any other perspective. Some people call that 'close minded'. The only ideas and perspectives you are open to are your own.

I didn't hear any other perspective from Neo, except "I don't like what you are doing". If he had suggested other things we should be doing, he would have been accepted better.

Kat Kanning

LOL @ your sig line, Ron.  I guess it's common in Britain to let people traipse across your land.  "Just close the gate" when you're done.   I've never been there, though.