Kelo Report, Part 2

[TackleTheWorld]

You are so observant, Mike.  Yes I was on the local news.  I finally got to the city council meeting Monday and was interviewed by local TV 8 WTNH tuesday.

Here is what I said at the city council meeting. 


I'm happy to be here.  Being a new resident of New London I thought it proper to study the history of my new home.  Here's a document that was new to me but is probably well-known to you. 

Connecticut Resolutions on the Stamp Act: December 10, 1765
At a meeting of a large assembly of the respectable populace in New London the 10th of December 1765, the following resolves were unanimously come into.
Resolved, 1st. That every form of government rightfully founded, originates from the consent of the people.
2d. That the boundaries set by the people in all constitutions are the only limits within which any officer can lawfully exercise authority.
3d. That whenever those bounds are exceeded, the people have a right to reassume the exercise of that authority which by nature they had before they delegated it to individuals.
In summary, the power of the government comes from the people. 

I was imprisoned for sixteen days for the crime of tresspassing in city hall during a city council meeting.  Arresting citizens for trying to attend a city council meeting is not a good way to show your respect for the populace. 

Evicting your citizens into a December night is also inadvisable. 

Intimidating your citizens into selling their property for an unfairly low price is criminal. 

The people are the power and the fortune of this city.  Respect and cherish them, don't drive them out.

[TackleTheWorld]

New Structure Built in Fort Trumbull Neighborhood on NLDC land.

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[Russell Kanning]

Well done ..... they seem to forget they work for us and that their jobs exist only if the people choose that.

[TackleTheWorld]

Any messages you'd like to post on the Fort Trumbull Neighborhood Info Board can be relayed by me.  I'm hoping to get a "Death to the NLDC" name tag like the one that my friend Fohammer wears.

[Friday]

Amanda Phillips, the president of the Free State Project, also distanced the group from Canario, saying her imprisonment has nothing to do with the goals of the organization, which does not take a position on eminent domain.

"The Free State Project distanced itself from freedom, saying the title 'Free' has nothing to do with the goals of the organization, which does not take a position on anything because that would introduce risk and require a spine."

???

Amanda disputes the reporter's take on her conversation with him, but I shall not be quoting personal emails on public forums beyond saying that.  I for one wouldn't mind seeing the FSP take a few positions.

It's been over two weeks since that article appeared.  Has the FSP publicly corrected this article, or does it remain on public record that the FSP "does not take a position on eminent domain", straight from the mouth of the President / Media Spokesperson?  Thank you for any info on this.  I am very concerned.

[Kat Kanning]

Just a suggestion:  I wouldn't bother holding my breath on this one.

[president]

Amanda Phillips, the president of the Free State Project, also distanced the group from Canario, saying her imprisonment has nothing to do with the goals of the organization, which does not take a position on eminent domain.

"The Free State Project distanced itself from freedom, saying the title 'Free' has nothing to do with the goals of the organization, which does not take a position on anything because that would introduce risk and require a spine."

???

Amanda disputes the reporter's take on her conversation with him, but I shall not be quoting personal emails on public forums beyond saying that.  I for one wouldn't mind seeing the FSP take a few positions.

It's been over two weeks since that article appeared.  Has the FSP publicly corrected this article, or does it remain on public record that the FSP "does not take a position on eminent domain", straight from the mouth of the President / Media Spokesperson?  Thank you for any info on this.  I am very concerned.

Do you need to hear it from her mouth?
I can help you out.
FSP goal, from the June 19, 2004 Grafton meeting, wma format
She doesn't say ED, but she does say the FSP doesn't take a stand on *any* issue.

[Lloyd Danforth]

I don't know why people persist in this Bullshit.  The focus of the FSP is getting 20,000 people to move to New Hampshire.

[polyanarch]

http://web.archive.org/web/20021201044720/http://www.freestateproject.org/

"The Free State Project is a plan in which 20,000 or more liberty-oriented people will move to a single state of the U.S., and work within its political system to reduce the size and scope of government. We will reduce burdensome taxation and regulation, reform state and local law, opt out of federal mandates, and negotiate directly with Washington for appropriate political autonomy. We will prove to the nation and the world what liberty can accomplish."

I think that this lies into the interpretation of this very statement.

Who is the "we" in the second half of the statement?  Are we some sort of Borg-collective hive?  I think the idea was that once the FSP people convinced 20k people to move then it was up to INDIVIDUALS to do the work of Freedom.  Each and every individual is responsible for doing what he thinks is best and may then band together to help do it.  Don't expect or demand that the FSP leadership hold your little hands and show you the way.  They are busy trying to get 20K people to come.  And that requires ballancing on a tight rope and not taking too much of a public offical stand on things that might harm the chances of bringing 20K people in the first place.  Give them a break and go out and DO freedom yourself.  What is stopping you?

[Kat Kanning]

I don't know why people persist in this Bullshit.  The focus of the FSP is getting 20,000 people to move to New Hampshire.

Lloyd, how are they supposed to do that when they don't stand for anything?  Why would anyone be attracted to an organzation like that?

[Lloyd Danforth]

Funny you should ask.  I was and, apparently 7000 others.  I assumed that once I was in the state chosen, I would be on my own.
I do remember when their was talk about a FSP office of some kind in the state chosen and that does imply activism of some kind of activism under the FSP banner, but, I see the value of just focusing on recruiting and the danger of endorsing all liberty activities.
Backing the New London property owners would seem like a no-brainer for an org like the FSP, but, how about burning UN flags? How about endorsing ignoring or breaking of laws? Those sort of things could turn off possinle recruits.
I admit, I question the quality and maturity of signups that we get at events like Van's Warped Tours or Boston Hemfest, but, the only time I've seen people stop filling out a form or diss us in any way, was when they spotted the position paper where we want the right to carry firearms without permits.
I admit the leadership ( couldn't we find a better word?) is anal about this ( yer gonna do what? Pick up trash under the FSP name?) and Objecting to ED would seem to be the right thing for the org to do, but, what difference would it  make?  Three more Porc's show up in New London?  The FSP carries no weight in the world, and their endorsment would mean little.

[Russell Kanning]

"We will prove to the nation and the world what liberty can accomplish."

Now we're talkin'.

[Kat Kanning]

Why would you want anti-gun people here anyway?

[Dreepa]

They are busy trying to get 20K people to come.? And that requires ballancing on a tight rope and not taking too much of a public offical stand on things that might harm the chances of bringing 20K people in the first place.? Give them a break and go out and DO freedom yourself.? What is stopping you?

'They' are busy?

I am actually really disappointed in the recruiting efforts.
There seems to be no organization in regards to recruiting.  There was a secret halfhearted attempt with the AA.
I know it is everyone's job but...some people need direction and training on how to recruit. I think that the best way to get people is to energize the people right after they sign up ( I mean they are excited right?  Not like someone who signed up 2 years ago and forgot about us)  Tell them that they are supposed to sign up 3 people.  Help them sign up three people. 

That SHOULD be the only focus of the FSP.  Get people signed up and get them moving...

[FTL_Ian]

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