Lauren kidnapped roadside by thugs Oct. 2nd, Part 1

[Tom Sawyer]

Finished a 10 min version of the arrest video. I'll take it to be uploaded tomorrow.

Of course I'll always think of you as Cornholio...
"Are you threatening me?"

[Jim Johnson]

 

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I would guess the folks calling themselves police over in Milford didn't get the word about all the fallout which would occur from messing with one Lauren Canario.

[srqrebel]

I would guess the folks calling themselves police over in Milford didn't get the word about all the fallout which would occur from messing with one Lauren Canario.

 

[Jim Johnson]

I would guess the folks calling themselves police over in Milford didn't get the word about all the fallout which would occur from messing with one Lauren Canario.

Yaa...they might have sent out an APB on us and neglected to tell them that, 'Oh yea...shit's going to fall in great quantities'.   

[David]

Question: Since milford arrested her, who pays for her imprisonment?  It would be awesome if milford does.  I would love to see stupid wanna be thugs bankrupt themselves trying to enforce their 'law'. 

[Jim Johnson]

Question: Since milford arrested her, who pays for her imprisonment?  It would be awesome if milford does.  I would love to see stupid wanna be thugs bankrupt themselves trying to enforce their 'law'. 

Right on, David.

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The Monitor suggests that Lauren's being held in jail may have something to do with her support of the Browns.

A fifth supporter was arrested this week by local authorities and is being held on bond for a number of driving-related offenses.

[JDouglasFisher]

This is tough to respond to, but here we go...

Regarding NJ Practice about No D.L. Having impounded many a car, I can tell you from experiance that even when the illegals are caught with no DL, no Ins., No Reg, hell, not even a green card, they just write the tickets based on whatever info the person gives them, and then let them walk. (Supposedly this is going to change now in NJ, hhhmmm.....) Meanwhile I impound the car (and then usually get stuck with it because they never come to claim these 4 wheel pollution bombs) and after waiting months, finally get a title to the vehicle through the municipality so I can junk them.

Should she have a D.L.? Yes. Why, simple, it shows that she is competent enough to operate such a machine. Personally, I think you should be tested every 2 years to maintain your Driving Privileges only because I have seen WAY TOO MANY BAD drivers out there. NJ is full of them. This is also the reason why I was pissed when NJ started with the 6 points of I.D. bullshit in order to renew your license. The idea of a D.L. was to show competency, not become some sort of super state mandated I.D. card. NJ said they did it to "curb the manufacture of fake I.D.'s, thus reducing the opportunity for underage drinkers to get alcohol" but alas, that didn't work anyway, especially when 15 year olds are still getting the brew. I still think it was a way for NJ to break all our balls, and invade our privacy a bit, but here in NJ, I cannot fight them. We truely are the minority here, no one listens.

Now I understand the idea of freedom to do whatever you want, wherever you want, etc. But an automobile, just like a knife, gun, hand grenade, etc, if not respected and operated properly, can (and does) often result in the deaths of people and large amounts of property damage...

Why do you think we don't allow 10 year olds to drive?

Remember, we are a civilized society, and as much as I would love to go back to the colonial ways of government, fact is, the times have changed. Seldom did you hear of stories about Drunk Horseback Riding for instance. (I cannot think of a way to put it..) Horses are a lot less likely to kill people and wreck the living room of a house. Cars and SUV's on the other hand, can.

As for her civil disobedience, I haven't watched the video yet, so I cannot comment.. I want to see it though.

Fisher

[penguins4me]

Should she have a D.L.? Yes. Why, simple, it shows that she is competent enough to operate such a machine. Personally, I think you should be tested every 2 years to maintain your Driving Privileges only because I have seen WAY TOO MANY BAD drivers out there. NJ is full of them.

So, if either one person or "too many" persons use a natural right to infringe (or not) on the rights of others, you think all people should lose that right? Driving is freedom to travel - and before anything is said about "gov't roads", gas taxes were paid for.

This is also the reason why I was pissed when NJ started with the 6 points of I.D. bullshit in order to renew your license. The idea of a D.L. was to show competency, not become some sort of super state mandated I.D. card.

Gov't seeks ever more power and control...

NJ said they did it to "curb the manufacture of fake I.D.'s, thus reducing the opportunity for underage drinkers to get alcohol" but alas, that didn't work anyway, especially when 15 year olds are still getting the brew.

... and it can't do anything well at all.


So, how do gov't driver licenses do anything to ensure the competency of drivers on (or off) the roads? How does the gov't prevent anyone from driving without gov't papers? How does locking up a person who infringed no others' rights help anything? Is kidnapping and torture (in one of the multitude of definitions) a proper punishment for refusing gov't papers?

[JDouglasFisher]

So, how do gov't driver licenses do anything to ensure the competency of drivers on (or off) the roads? How does the gov't prevent anyone from driving without gov't papers? How does locking up a person who infringed no others' rights help anything? Is kidnapping and torture (in one of the multitude of definitions) a proper punishment for refusing gov't papers?

Penguin,

Come on man, you make it sound like she is in Abu-grabe (sp?). As I said earlier, I cannot comment on why she was arrested cause I didn't see the arrest video. I am only going on what everyone here is saying, but honestly, I rather see the video myself before I draw conclusions.

As for Driving Licenses, I'll put it to you this way, and maybe then you'll understand. When the day comes that some jackass crashes their car into your 18 year old daughters car, and it turns out that they didn't have a drivers license, and on top of that, they provided the cops with false information about who they were, then you too will be mad as a hornets nest because as your daughter walks around crippled for the rest of her life, the son of a bitch who was irresponsible and not even man enough to own up to the fact that they just ruined someone else's life, walks away.

I will be the first to stand up for freedom. But I also believe in civility and responsibility. To have No Laws at all, is just pure anarchy, and to me, that is the ruination of society.

Just like you need a license for a firearm, you should also have a license to operate a motor vehicle.

And to quote your other statement about the "right" to infringe on the rights of others, I'll bet you wouldn't be saying that if I turned around an said that the pedophile down the street has "the right" to violate your son also...

Come on man, lets be sensible about this.

Fisher

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You don't need a license for a firearm here. What sort of backward third-world banana republic do you come from? Oh yeah, New Jersey.

I also heard a rumor that the people who rescued two stranded travelers from the side of the road a few days ago were also traveling without permission from the government.

[les nessman]

  Uhhh, maybe you can explain how this country survived without falling apart for CENTURIES
before drivers licenses, mandatory financial responsibility, and inspections were mandatory.
And error, I was so tired the other night I forgot to say thanks for all your help in picking
up Jim. Thank you! 

[penguins4me]

So, how do gov't driver licenses do anything to ensure the competency of drivers on (or off) the roads? How does the gov't prevent anyone from driving without gov't papers? How does locking up a person who infringed no others' rights help anything? Is kidnapping and torture (in one of the multitude of definitions) a proper punishment for refusing gov't papers?

You didn't even bother to answer my question.

Penguin,
As for Driving Licenses, I'll put it to you this way, and maybe then you'll understand. When the day comes that some jackass crashes their car into your 18 year old daughters car, and it turns out that they didn't have a drivers license, and on top of that, they provided the cops with false information about who they were, then you too will be mad as a hornets nest because as your daughter walks around crippled for the rest of her life, the son of a bitch who was irresponsible and not even man enough to own up to the fact that they just ruined someone else's life, walks away.

The presence or absence of gov't papers would have prevented the jackass from crashing into his victim's car... how? Gov't papers guarantee a criminal will show up for his assigned punishment... how?

I will be the first to stand up for freedom. But I also believe in civility and responsibility. To have No Laws at all, is just pure anarchy, and to me, that is the ruination of society.

I suggest having individuals choose how to provide for their own well-being, since the gov't absolves itself of any such responsibility (see Castle Rock v. Warren).

And to quote your other statement about the "right" to infringe on the rights of others, I'll bet you wouldn't be saying that if I turned around an said that the pedophile down the street has "the right" to violate your son also...

So we should make eunuchs out of all males? After all, as you've pointed out, some men have abused their right to their own bodies and have infringed upon the rights of others. Perhaps you'd be sated by merely requiring the registration of male genitilia?

[KBCraig]

Should she have a D.L.? Yes. Why, simple, it shows that she is competent enough to operate such a machine.

Oh, bullshit. You don't even believe that yourself! See:

Personally, I think you should be tested every 2 years to maintain your Driving Privileges only because I have seen WAY TOO MANY BAD drivers out there. NJ is full of them.

NJ is fully of duly licensed drivers who are "bad drivers" in your estimation. A license does not prove competency, as anyone who has ridden in a NYC taxi will attest.

Come again when you have a real argument in favor of licensing.