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Started by Russell Kanning, December 19, 2005, 06:11 PM NHFT

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Russell Kanning

I agree .... I think you should do it. :)

Rhiannon McKinnon

The idea of attempting to somehow "partner" with an indian reservation is a good one, but I sure wouldn't expect to get anywhere with it.  Some years back, when our male half was married for the first time, this same idea was discussed with the father-in-law at the time....who happened to have a good portion of Cherokee in his blood, and also happened to be concerned with the loss of freedom in our country.  This was the genesis of the idea of moving to greater freedom within our country.....and where better place to move away from the reaches of government than to a place where the government simply had no jurisdiction, right?  So.....since I was now married to Cherokee blood, would I be able to avoid the government by moving to a reservation?  This was the question I posed....and here's what I found out:
1) The government has NO jurisdiction on indian land, therefore the ONLY laws that apply are tribal laws.  Any income that you might make on indian land is not taxed (by the feds).  But if you leave that land to make an income, that income can be taxed (by the feds).  Ok, no big deal....but.....
2) Even being married to someone of indian ancestry does not mean that you would be allowed to live on a reservation....apparently that decision would have to be made by council, who would consider your reasons and motives.  Indians do NOT want to just let anyone onto their land. 
With them taking this sort of stance, it would seem EXTREMELY doubtful that they could be "bought off" in the manner suggested in earlier posts here....if they want a "continuing income stream", they'll just build another casino or lease out some mining rights.....
So my first marriage ended, and that shot down the whole reservation idea for me....hell, it probably would have happened that way anyways, as she would have rather divorced me than move to find freedom in the first place! (why do most people think you're crazy for wanting to be free?)  NH seems like the strongest "second best" choice by a wide margin.....and the current wife agrees.....can't wait to make that first scouting mission in the spring!

~RM

PS-  A reservation IS considered to be it's own sovereign country!  And they DO try (very hard, at that) to keep it that way......

Ron Helwig

Back in MN, we held a couple of our LP state conventions at an Indian casino hotel. We had one member who refused to attend because she didn't want to leave the US.

As a side note, even though they were the most expensive conventions we ever held, they were also the most profitable.

Russell Kanning

I am not thinking of partnering with or moving to an Indian reservation. I want to live free in my own house right now. :)

Caleb

Why not just declare yourself a Native American. (I was born here.)  And declare that the federal U.S. government has no jurisdiction over you wherever you may be.

Caleb

Kat Kanning


KBCraig



Kat Kanning

What does a Choctaw look like?  My grandmother was on the Cherokee rolls.

KBCraig

Quote from: katdillon on December 26, 2005, 11:29 AM NHFT
What does a Choctaw look like?  My grandmother was on the Cherokee rolls.

Choctaws tend to be shorter, with round faces and button noses. Cherokees usually have high prominent cheekbones and thin noses.

My cheekbones are about all that show of my 1/128th Cherokee.

Kevin

zackbass


Quote from: russellkanning on December 26, 2005, 10:52 AM NHFT

I am not thinking of partnering with or moving to an Indian reservation. I want to live free in my own house right now. :)


Sorry, that's not one of the choices.  The dogwhistles can and will dictate what you do and how you do it and to whom you do it and to how many you may do it at a time, until the day you move to a place where there are libertarians in sufficient numbers and power to protect themselves from the madness.

No single person I know (except for one guy I've had dinner with a couple of times, worth $200,000,000, but he's only a paper libertarian) can afford to give an Indian Tribe the revenue they will demand, but a group of entrepreneurs can do it... and live in style!
Imagine not having to arrange your business around racial quotas (nothing is more Racist than an Indian Council, and they get away with it!) and OSHA rules and whom-you-are-allowed-to-rent-your-private-property-to and whom-you-must-serve-in-your-private-establishment and sexual harassment bullcrap.  You'd thrive!


zackbass


Quote from: calibaba77 on December 26, 2005, 10:55 AM NHFT

Why not just declare yourself a Native American. (I was born here.)  And declare that the federal U.S. government has no jurisdiction over you wherever you may be.


Why not just declare yourself a cabbage, and declare that you are Emperor of the Cosmos?


CNHT

Quote from: russellkanning on December 20, 2005, 09:16 AM NHFT
Radio Free NH

We already use that as our nickname on NH Taxpayer Radio  :-)

Dreepa

Quote from: rhelwig on December 26, 2005, 09:50 AM NHFT
We had one member who refused to attend because she didn't want to leave the US.
You gotta love the LP!

Russell Kanning

I guess I have about 3 issues going.

Personal secession from all governments
Keene Property Tax Revolt
State of NH secession

I was thinking that I only have one statewide issue ..... and that is secession.

What do you guys think of NH secession?