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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #90 on: December 20, 2006, 12:14 PM NHFT »

I signed the pledges, I'm going to be moving in the next 6 months.  Rather, I should say that if I don't get into NH within 6 months I hope I'm dead, cause I really can't take my state anymore.  Money is an issue, we're going to come up with a wad of cash for safe keeping.  I have myself and 2 other roommates so far, but we'd love to find something accomodating 6, 3 couples.  anyways off topic, sorry all.


What areas in the state are you looking at?  (Seacoast?)
on the look out for a 3 bedroom.

BTW get those roomates and girlfriends  signing the F1k.... that is 5 more signers! ;)

I would do so, but do you want signers, or people that would actually vote?  As much as I'd like my friends to take part in the political process, they have no clue and no care to have a clue.  They know that NH is nice, low taxes, better way of life.  But believe me, I'll drag them to polling places if I have to, I'll pay them to go, I'll do the dishes for a week!  A MONTH!  to get them to at least vote with me on issues.  I'm looking at the seacoast, I've lived in Salisbury forever so I've fallen in love with the beaches at Seabrook and Hampton (at least in the winter)
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #91 on: December 20, 2006, 01:44 PM NHFT »

As much as I'd like my friends to take part in the political process, they have no clue
Neither did I, till I got here and got energized by so many people working so hard and so visibly for freedom!
http://freestateblogs.net/node/145
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #92 on: December 20, 2006, 11:51 PM NHFT »

Also they don't have to vote to be freedom people.

Russell and Kat among others don't vote.

All I did was vote back when I lived in CA...now I work for freedom!
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #93 on: January 18, 2007, 03:53 PM NHFT »

But believe me, I'll drag them to polling places if I have to, I'll pay them to go, I'll do the dishes for a week!  A MONTH!  to get them to at least vote with me on issues.

Before getting them to vote make sure to educate them.  Tell them about sites like the NHLA's report card where they can actually see how different state reps in each town are rated.  Look past the party lines and campaign blathering and make sure you learn where reps actually stand.  We lost a lot of highly rated reps last year simply because people were against Bush and voted D's regardless of who was on the ticket.  Heck just look at Carol Shea Porter, that woman is an out right socialist.  Yet she won because of the anti Bush drive which effected all levels of government.

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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2007, 01:50 PM NHFT »

posted the message below to these to these active pro liberty web forums.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3246991#post3246991
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=12737.0
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=13406.0
http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?topic=13526.0
wendy mcelroy forum
http://edbrown.org/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1175180289/0#0


also to NH forums:
http://seacoastconnects.com/forums/showthread.php?p=34441#post34441
http://merrimackforum.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=73477#73477
http://forum.nashuatelegraph.com/viewtopic.php?p=3143#3143
http://salemnhforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=15533#15533

And to these garden variety national forums:
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2042752#2042752
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=8697


What will you do if they come for Ed Brown?

As many of you may be aware, Washington is thought to be under some pressure to have New Hampshire tax protestors Ed and Elaine Brown in the courthouse for their sentencing April 24. The elderly Plainfield couple have been holed up in their house since their convicition on tax charges in Januray. Ed is carrying a .45 and has promised to fire upon any government agent attempting to arrest him or his wife. Ed's not perfect, but at least he's taking a stand and hasn't harmed anyone.  That's more than I can say for myself, since I tamely paid the Fed tax, which was promptly put to use torturing people.  Ed doesn't deserve to die or be locked into a concrete box for the rest of his life.

I'm told it will be an an unusual ocurrance if they are sentenced in absentia. On the other hand, authorities have repeatedly stated they will not initiate an armed confrontation.

In any case, those of you here who care about Ed and Elaine's safety (and I realize not everyone does); I hope you will be especially ready for the possibility of a raid sometime in the next few weeks. I hope you will consider, as I am considering, what you going to do if it ocurrs. I tend to think that the best things to do are those which we do on our own iniatiative, and which are telegraphed to the authorities in advance. However if you are just hunting around for ideas, or you don't have all the information you need to carry out some type of response...This post should be of some assistance.

Here is a list of potential action items which would be appropriate and practical to carry out during the first 48 hours after an attack. Some of them you can carry out now.

1) Go to calendar.nhfree.com and see what types of flash events have been scheduled to occur in response to the raid. Attend them or promote them if you can.

2) Head to your nearest Federal facility with a sign of some type. Plan on being alone at first. Staples has good sign making material...big posterboards are best with lettering at least six inches tall, otherwise car traffic will not be able to read your sign. Better to have this material on hand now, so you are not scrambling to acquire it after the spit hits the fan. You will be three times as effective and visible if you also have a rattlesnake flag and pole. If you need to buy those; I have some. E-mail me at dave97635 (that's a hotmail dotcom address). I accept both Fed dollars and precious metals. I'm posting below some ideas for signs.

3) Write a letter to the editor of a nearby paper expressing your concern. In New Hampshire The Concord Monitor, Keene Free Press and the Union Leader seem to print most of the pro liberty letters they receive, and you can be from anywhere in the state. The Keene Sentinel seems to be pretty good about printing our letters if written from the Keene area. Keep them under 200 words in all cases if possible, especially with the Union Leader.

4) Join some political web forums and voice there your support for Ed and Elaine. I've included a list of good forums below. Better to join now and be ready than to join after the event.

5) Call relevant officials to express your concern. I've included a list below.

6) Maybe go to Ed Brown's house? Haven't really given this much thought. Certainly I hope more folks will go there beforehand as a deterrent. His address: 401 Center of Town Road Plainfield, New Hampshire 03781

But again...the important thing is to be ready, and do *something* constructive in response to any raid or seizure of our flinty acquaintence.

Ideas for post-raid signs:

Free
Elaine
Brown
NHfree.com

Are Feds
Torturing
Elaine Brown?
NHfree.com

Or if things go really badly

Feds
Murdered
Ed Brown

I hope I don't have to carry that one.

List of active web forums where you can voice your support for Ed and Elaine:

in new hampshire:
http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3868.0 - Ed brown discussion thread on NHfree.com
http://seacoastconnects.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19846#post19846
http://merrimackforum.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=66840#66840
http://salemnhforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=14558#14558
http://forum.nashuatelegraph.com/viewtopic.php?p=1793#1793
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=12652.0

Nationally:
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1067958#1067958
http://www.bearpit.net/index.php?showtopic=6264
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2141241#post2141241
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=672279#post672279
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24787#24787
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=4478.0 -libertarian forum
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=563712#post563712
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=601718#post601718
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=9953
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/
http://www.conservativex.com/yabbse/index.php
http://www.annoyatorium.com/tt.aspx?forumid=25
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/index.php
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/general-politics-vf5.html
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?p=17544#post17544
http://cheaptalk.marijuana.com/420/forumdisplay.php?f=8
http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showforum=35 - best category to post usually
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=517252#517252
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=;action=login2 - libertarian forum
http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=;action=login2
http://www.fappin.com/board - they request I hit the link button lower right. Stopped posting because it was too complicated
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/smf/index.php
http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?&topic=10841.0
http://digg.com/
http://www.christianexodus.us/ - FSP style movement except they are all Christians evacuating to South Carolina


List of public officials in New Hampshire who "serve" Ed and Elaine:

Sullivan County Sheriff Michael L. Prozzo Jr.
14 Main St.
P.O. Box 27
Newport, NH. 03773
PH 603.863.4200
FAX 603.863.0012
or E-mail sheriff@nhvt.net
You can ask him not to cooperate with the Feds in arresting or killing Ed and his friends. One approach is to keep the message under 12 words and ask his secretary to write it down word for word.


NH Sen. John Sununu
603-647-7500
You can ask him what he's doing to keep the other feds from arresting or killing Ed and his friends. One approach is to keep the message under 12 words and ask his secretary to write it down word for word.

Office of NH Governor Lynch
State House
25 Capitol Street
Concord, NH 03301
(603)271-2121 (603)271-7680 (fax) Email the Governor at
http://www.egov.nh.gov/governor/goveforms/comments.asp

NH Sen. Judd Gregg
603-225-7115

U.S. Marshalls, New Hampshire
Stephen Monier, Gary DiMartino
603 225 1632
You can thank them for their restraint thus far and urge them to continue it....or if they do something evil then you can just yell at them!

Colonel Frederick Booth
Director, NH State Police: (603) 271-2450
33 Hazen Drive | Concord, NH 03305
They were involved in arresting Ed last year, you can ask them not to do that again.


U.S. Rep Paul Hodes
Washington, DC Web Address:
http://hodes.house.gov/
Washington, DC Web Mail Address:
http://www.house.gov/htbin/wre ...
Washington, DC Address
506 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-5206
Distric Address - Concord
114 North Main Street
Second Floor
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: 603-223-9814

State Representative Matthew Houde (D)
Current District: Sullivan 01
First Elected: 11/07/2006
Birth date: 03/27/1969
28 Bean Road, Apt C
Plainfield NH 03781-5479
603 469 3149
matthewhoude-at-yahoo.com

Ed's other State Representative Carla Skinder (D,R - you can be both at same time in NH)
Current District: Sullivan 01
First Elected: 11/07/2006
465 East Road
Cornish NH 03745-4433
603 542 6065
603 543 6895
603 863 8383
e-mail: cskinder-at-vrh.org carla.skinder-at-leg.state.nh.us

Attorney General Kelly Ayotte
http://doj.nh.gov/
33 Capitol Street
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: 603-271-3658
TTYD Number: 800-735-2964
Fax: 603-271-2110


William M. Gardner (NH)
Current Office: Secretary of State
First Elected: 1976
Party: Democrat
elections@sos.state.nh.us
http://www.sos.nh.gov/
Department Address
State Capitol, Room 204
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: 603-271-3242
Fax: 603-271-6316


US Representative Carol Shea-Porter (D) , NH
The other NH rep. technically she is not ed's rep.
Current District: 1
First Elected: 11/07/2006
Washington, DC Web Address:
http://shea-porter.house.gov/
Washington, DC Address
1508 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202-225-5456
District Address - Dover
104 Washington Street
Dover, NH 03820
Phone: 603-743-4813
Fax: 603-743-5956
District Address - Manchester
33 Lowell Street
Manchester, NH 03101
Phone: 603-641-9536
Fax: 603-641-9561

There's also a list of Ed's elected officials at

http://votesmart.org/search_zipcode.php?zip=03781-5103&go.x=8&go.y=8

Votesmart can also lead you to lists of your own officials if you're outside NH

For those who are wondering what my plans are for the first 48 hours after a raid...my default plan is to go straight to calendar.nhfree.com and set up a couple of minidemonstrations to ocurr within that time frame. These will likely be protests in front of Federal facilities in Manchester, Nashua or Keene. Then I'll probably start working on new signs that match the new situation, and endeavor to attend the demonstrations. It's nothing riviting and is sure to change, but it is my default plan. What's yours?

Dave Ridley
AKA Dada Orwell
NHfree.com

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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2007, 11:20 PM NHFT »

Perhaps Unintended Consequences should be required reading for everyone before anyone does anything...
Henry Bowman and "V" are both out there...
Something to consider...
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #96 on: May 13, 2007, 11:38 AM NHFT »

I'll be posting this around the net a bit; so can you!

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The Free Staters are having their 4th annual Porcupine Festival in New Hampshire next month.  Free Staters are folks who move to New Hampshire for more freedom, or who plan to.

What:  Porcupine Festival
When: June 18 - 24, 2007
Where: Gunstock Mountain Resort in Gilford, NH
Who:  Hundreds of hardcore liberty activists who are considering moving to NH or already live here
Why: Socialize, learn about NH, join our freedom fight for a week
How:  Registration Details are at http://freestateproject.org/festival/   

You've probably never seen more gun-toters in one place!  Turnout averages around 300 a year.  It's a chance to experience maximum freedom and glimpse New Hampshire's future.

Attendees will be able to choose from events in several categories:

    * Bus Tours:  organized trips to various parts of NH
    * Outdoors:  planned hikes and events exploring the environment of NH
    * Activism:  engage in pro-liberty activism in NH
    * Entertainment:  bands, open mike, movies, dancing
    * Training:  learn the basic skills needed to be an effective organizer and/or activist
    * Speakers:  hear and question early movers, the FSP leadership, in-state activists, and others
    * Sports: volleyball/ultimate frisbee/shooting

Since New Hampshire was voted the freest state in the Union in 2003, at least 220 hardcore libertarian activists have moved here and have had a pro-liberty impact completely out of proportion to their numbers.   Local Free Staters now run one newspaper, four broadcast radio programs and three TV shows.  They have become a major lobbying presence in the State House.  One has won election to the House, and Free Staters have helped kill hundreds of spending bills.  They run New Hampshire's most active web forum; their demonstrations and activities have generated hundreds of mainstream media articles. 

The lights of liberty, though mortally threatened in every state, still shine brightest here.   New Hampshire has recently passed a Constitutional amendment restricting eminent domain, led the rebellion against Real ID and outlawed the seizure of lawfully borne firearms during a Katrina-style crisis.   

To join our freedom fight from your computer, drop by http://forum.nhfree.com and see what we've been up to.

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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #99 on: May 14, 2007, 09:56 AM NHFT »

A while back I posted this one about russell, to the forum list below, but forgot to put it here apparently.

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Always interested to get the crossfirer take on events in the Free State...

Libertarian activist Russell Kanning of Keene, New Hampshire has just been arrested (April 10) for driving without a license and refusing to appear in court.   Kanning is the publisher of the Keene Free Press newspaper and probably one of the five most prominent pro-liberty activists in the state.

He was briefly arrested last month after being pulled over for a malfunctioning headlight on Keene's West street.  Keene police then re-arrested him April 10 after he refused  to appear in court on the driving-without-a-license charge.

Operating his bumper-sticker-laden vehicles under the motto "In a free country, you don't need government permission to travel," Kanning has been arrested at least three other times for acts of civil disobedience, including his 2005 attempt to board a flight from Manchester without government "papers."

Kanning appeared in Keene District Court April 11, attended by a hastily gathered group of at least nine supporters.  Some stood outside holding "Free Russell Kanning" signs, others went in to hear the proceedings.

It looks like they are claiming they will hold him until May 14.   The jovial nonviolent resistance advocate is said to be refusing to cooperate with processing and is also refusing to post bond.

As of April 11 the latest Details on the situation are posting to the NHfree.com forum  at:

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=8110.0

We will be posting a lot more info there as we get it, including action items if any of you would like to help.   Thanks for keeping an eye on our circumstances.


http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=13465.0
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=13064.0
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1176321022;start=0
http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=19222
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/smf/index.php?topic=2925.0
http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?&topic=13683.0
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2072609#2072609
http://www.politicaldiscussion.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1858544#1858544
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=938014#post938014
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=984555#post984555
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=970343#post970343

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/current-events/38262-nh-free-staters-rally-defense-jailed-dl-refusenik.html#post364802
http://www.annoyatorium.com/tm.aspx?m=268745&mpage=1&key=&#268745
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=540762#post540762
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1176433269;start=0#0
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/politics-government/15432-nh-free-staters-rush-defense-dl.html#post367181
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388865#388865
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=183784
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=183784&Disp=0
http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/19686-nh-free-staters-race-defend-dl-refusenik.html#post532229
http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?s=393f42f1f529dd4e1c9efbe8cfba450f&showtopic=6408
http://christianexodus.us/smf/index.php?topic=114.0
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #100 on: May 14, 2007, 06:32 PM NHFT »

Google groups -- Misc.Survivalism
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.survivalism/browse_thread/thread/0e0cbf19178446f5/8d6b7eae40941892?hl=en#8d6b7eae40941892

AR15.com -- Waiting confirm e-mail.

Gunsnet.net -- Waiting confirm e-mail.

Tranceaddict.com --
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416658&forumid=66

Glocktalk.com -- Waiting confirm e-mail.

Etherzone.com -- Waiting confirm e-mail.

Noble Realms -- Waiting confirm e-mail.

Free State Wyoming --
http://www.fundamentalsoffreedom.com/fswforum//index.php?topic=4271.0


« Last Edit: May 14, 2007, 06:59 PM NHFT by Puke »
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2007, 10:17 AM NHFT »

Nice work mr. P and thank you!

I wasn't able to access the FSW forum post...do you think they may have deleted it?   Or maybe one just has to be a member there to see it.
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2007, 04:49 PM NHFT »

« Last Edit: May 17, 2007, 04:24 PM NHFT by Puke »
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Re: Other forums discussing NH freedom movement
« Reply #104 on: May 17, 2007, 01:49 PM NHFT »

Posted the following message to the web forums below, plus the NH forums.

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"Digging" Ron Paul for president - easiest way to help him?

As many of you may be aware, libertarian Republican Ron Paul, a gynecologist and congressman from Texas, is making a robust but long shot run for president.  Of course, the media and the Republican establishment are both scared spitless of his plans to strictly follow the U.S. Constitution and disband Federal bureaucracies.   After all the attention he's been getting at the GOP debates, they are trying to ignore him or ban him from future debates.

For those who want to help make sure Dr. Paul's message gets out...

Here's the most effective and easy way I know:

- Visit http://digg.com

- Keyword search "Ron Paul"

- Then "digg" every story that has the word Ron Paul in the headline.

That's it! 

This gets him additional attention; I've seen it work very well before.  It's already working for Dr. Paul. 

Usually there are around 25 Ron Paul stories on Digg every day.   I Digg them about three times a day.  What are your thoughts about this approach and about Ron Paul?


http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=999773#post999773
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835221/posts
http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?board=22.0
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/smf/index.php?topic=3033.0
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general
http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=19430
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=13791.0
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=968403#post968403
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/political-parties-campaigns-elections/38441-digging-ron-paul-president-easiest-way-help-him.html#post997683
http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/political-discussions/38800-digging-ron-paul-president-easiest-way-help-him.html#post374920
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1179422959;start=0#0
http://www.freeconservatives.com/vb/showthread.php?p=551999#post551999
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/politics-government/16116-digging-ron-paul-president-easiest-way.html#post382618
   -  no respones to last two threads i've started
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403927#403927  - loading slowly 5/07 on upsend
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=187650
http://merit.nosync.org/index.php?showtopic=6604
http://realcent.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~965.asp
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