Forums discussing NH freedom movement

[MaineShark]

NHTeaParty.org

Joe

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NHTeaParty.org

I love the smell of a brand new forum!

[d_goddard]

NHTeaParty.org

New forum is being set up at NHTeaParty.org

I thought about registering.. but then I realized, holy crap, if I start doing political activism on a board wherein people are also fomenting for armed revolution... err... no thanks. Not going there.

[MaineShark]

I thought about registering.. but then I realized, holy crap, if I start doing political activism on a board wherein people are also fomenting for armed revolution... err... no thanks. Not going there.

So far, no one has posted any calls for armed revolution.  And no one has posted links to cop-killing, rape fantasy stories, either.

Joe

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Who's fomenting armed revolution? I missed that thread.

[KBCraig]

The "Appleseed Shoots" forum is favorable to both FSP and FSW. After some searching, I found this is the source for the email asking if I was the "Famous K.B. Craig". 

http://www.rwva.org/yabbse/index.php?topic=2808.0

[Dave Ridley]

posts about the ron paul debate in manchester 6/5

http://seacoastconnects.com/forums/showthread.php?p=42262#post42262
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=13713.0
http://forum.nashuatelegraph.com/viewtopic.php?p=4718#4718
http://nhindymedia.org/newswire/display/4344/index.php

http://tcftalk.com/clairefiles/index.php?topic=14275.0
http://www.strike-the-root.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1180878752;start=0
http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=19488
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=14127.0
http://realcent.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~1014.asp

[mappchik]

Garrett Michael Hayes, the new head of the LP in Georgia, and a gubernatorial candidate, started blogging recently.
In one of his recent posts, he questioned the Free State Project:

The Free-State Mistake
Posted by Garrett Michael Hayes at 5/25/2007 9:10 PM and is filed under International,Georgia,National
Every now and then, I get reminded — sometimes forcefully — that I'm a bit out of step with many Libertarians on a couple of issues.  I'm a stubborn jerk, and I tend to stick to my opinions, often longer than I ought to.  But this one has nagged at me and nagged at me.

Immigration.

At the Georgia LP convention last weekend we had, among many other excellent speakers, an excellent speaker named Ed Hudgins, Executive Director of The Atlas Society (http://www.atlassociety.org).  Dr. Hudgins spoke on the importance of moral principles, and one of the topics he covered was immigration.  He raised a key point, that people faced with the horrors in some other countries could hardly do anything more moral than try to get their families into THIS country.  That's a good point, but it didn't quite tip me over the line.  But I wasn't quite sure.  I've been worrying at it like a bad tooth.

Then today I remembered The Free State Project.  If you haven't heard of it, the FSP (http://www.freestateproject.org) is a plot to overthro...  I mean a plan to create a Libertarian state by migrating enough Libertarians into a single American state to effectively take over its political machinery.  They are trying to gather 20,000 dedicated volunteers to migrate to New Hampshire and make it the first state dedicated to Liberty since FDR took office.   

That's a great idea, but it also reveals an important truth.  If 20 thousand immigrants can effectively change the politics of a state, what can 20 MILLION — or 40 or 60 — do to the politics of a nation?

The Libertarian principle of free access across borders is based on the assumption that the people crossing those borders primarily want an open, free society, and have the cultural and philosophical background to maintain one.   Experience renders that assumption very dubious.

The principle is right, but the math isn't.  So, I'm still not convinced.  But I'm listening.

I added the emphasis to the last line. Since I haven't moved [yet], I don't have the same perspective ya'll do.
I don't know if a bit of FSP/NHLA/CNHT gospel will work on GMH, but it might sway a few others here in the Peach State.
http://gmhforliberty.com/2007/05/25/the-freestate-mistake.aspx

[Dave Ridley]

If we tell him that he's wrong, and convince him we're right
Will he keep on giving us free publicity?

[mappchik]

If we tell him that he's wrong, and convince him we're right
Will he keep on giving us free publicity?

I think that he will keep the conversation going on his blog for a while, so if that's free publicity, then yes.
If the accomplishments and activism in NH sparks a chord with him, which I think it will, I would hope he'd site FSPers as an example for the Georgia readers.

Again, I don't know that his mind will be changed. But I do think he'll spread the ideas, which is a good thing, no?

[Dave Ridley]

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Join Ron Paul supporters for 6/3 pres debate NH

Invite for USPO folks:   Ron Paul supporters from all over the Northeast will be out in force outside and inside the June 5 presidential debate in Manchester, NH. If you live anywhere near NH, we invite you to link up with us. We'll have lots of signs.

We'll also have a watch party at Murphy's Taproom, the Free Stater restaurant in Manchester.   It's just south of Elm and Granite.  Probably that will go on till near midnight. 


Details:

www.RonPaulHQ.com


http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2146059#2146059
http://www.whistlestopper.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1009700#post1009700
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844521/posts
http://boards.billmaher.com/showthread.php?p=981441#post981441
http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/political-parties-campaigns-elections/38824-join-ron-paul-supporters-6-3-pres-debate-nh.html#post1007603
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/libertynewsforumcgi/YaBB/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1180969779;start=0#0
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/here-vp411219.html#411219

[lildog]

This site links to all NH blogs.

http://www.blognetnews.com/new%5Fhampshire/

You can rate the over all blog but not individual articles within it.

[dalebert]

Mappchik: His statement is about immigration; not the FSP. He's using the FSP as an analogy and he's implying that it may very well work. He's not criticising us.

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[Dave Ridley]

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Below is a video of my August 5 open carry incident in New Hampshire.   It starts audio-only then the video picks up a minute or two later when our pro photographer runs to the scene. 

Basically I'm a liberty activist here; I wear a holstered pistol in public roughly once a week.  It's legal in New Hampshire but not that common south of the notches.  Cops sometimes ignore, sometimes harass you for doing it.   When that happens to me, I don't get angry but use the chance to educate police about the open carry rights of NH citizens.   

I was walking 50 yards from my car to the monthly Free Stater meeting at Murphy's Taproom in downtown Manchester.   I usually open carry to that meeting.

I was noticed by a state trooper, but I noticed him too and called the Free Staters' emergency hotline before he got to me.   In the video you hear my call realtime, as I report my situation and try to explain to our listeners what's happening.
 
Folks inside the bar also came running out to support me.  Police thought it was pre-planned it happened so fast, like they'd been set up or something.   But this is just how our guys react when they're nearby.   I appreciate the fact that the police were able to maintain calm and respectful demeanor despite some of the anger directed against them by the crowd.  But of course look I forward to the day when they don't make such stops in the first place.

Note that I am able to lawfully refuse them when they ask for my "papers" and personal information.   If you think this is a better outcome than you'd get where you are now.....move your ass up here and share our freedoms!   

Visit www.FreeStateProject.org

Thanks to all who showed support during and after this incident.

Hopefully this video will remind people New Hampshire does allow open carry, that officers here do handle themselves better than in most states, and that the Free Staters are continuing to improve level of support which is available to freedom lovers when police take exception to their responsible exercise of rights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXnK5UyRI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewhampshireunderground%2Ecom%2Fforum%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D10019%2E45