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Who was Carl Drega?

Started by Lex, January 12, 2006, 09:30 AM NHFT

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Lex

Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 11:40 AM NHFT
Regarding whether eukreign is making him a hero, he states on the first page of this thread (and is similarly quoted from a previous thread) that Drega is his hero. That's fine -- eukreign is certainly entitled to admire whoever he wishes, just as I'm entitled to be repulsed by those same folks.

I admire that he stood up for himself instead of allowing himself to be harassed like this and probably taken to prison or mental institution wherever it is they were going to put him in the end.

A man who lived alone in peace should not be treated like this and if he is then he has a natural right to defend his life.

Lex

Quote from: russellkanning on January 16, 2006, 11:42 AM NHFT
Quote from: eukreign on January 16, 2006, 11:34 AM NHFT
Probably tried to avoid killing people. The Ends Don't Justify the Means. In the long run killing anyone doesn't help liberty, although even that is arguable.
Should we do things because it may help liberty?

That's why i said that it's arguable :-)

Mark

Quote from: eukreign on January 16, 2006, 12:06 PM NHFT
Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 11:40 AM NHFT
Regarding whether eukreign is making him a hero, he states on the first page of this thread (and is similarly quoted from a previous thread) that Drega is his hero. That's fine -- eukreign is certainly entitled to admire whoever he wishes, just as I'm entitled to be repulsed by those same folks.

I admire that he stood up for himself instead of allowing himself to be harassed like this and probably taken to prison or mental institution wherever it is they were going to put him in the end.

A man who lived alone in peace should not be treated like this and if he is then he has a natural right to defend his life.

So you admire his course of action? It's better to murder people than fight back in other ways? He wasn't defending his life. He was hunting people down and shooting them.

Lex

Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 12:12 PM NHFT
So you admire his course of action? It's better to murder people than fight back in other ways? He wasn't defending his life. He was hunting people down and shooting them.

Oh yeah? You must not have actually read the article I posted, here is the excerpt:

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Carl Drega tried to fight them, for years, on their own terms and in their own courts.

He fight them peaceful untill two armed men approached him and threated his sovereignty.

Mark

Quote from: russellkanning on January 16, 2006, 12:01 PM NHFT
It just might not be Eukreigns thoughts also.

It looks like Vin is ready to have a violent revolution ........ oh wait .... he is just a writer and likes to talk about liberty .... never mind.

Fair enough, but I never claimed they were Eukreigns thoughts, did I?  ???

As for Vin, I've merely said that I disagree with his words that were posted above. Nothing more.

Mark

Quote from: eukreign on January 16, 2006, 12:16 PM NHFT
Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 12:12 PM NHFT
So you admire his course of action? It's better to murder people than fight back in other ways? He wasn't defending his life. He was hunting people down and shooting them.

Oh yeah? You must not have actually read the article I posted, here is the excerpt:

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Carl Drega tried to fight them, for years, on their own terms and in their own courts.

He fight them peaceful untill two armed men approached him and threated his sovereignty.

I hope Russell will chime in if I'm wrong, but it sounds like they're fighting what they perceive as tyranny in Keene without killing people.

By the way, two armed men approached him to give him a defective equipment ticket. Hardly an offense worthy of murder.

Tom Sawyer

Just had to comment on your new avatar Russell.

"...in a van down by the river." ;D

Lex

Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 12:53 PM NHFT
By the way, two armed men approached him to give him a defective equipment ticket. Hardly an offense worthy of murder.

It was not defective, HE WAS DRIVING IT!

Mark

Quote from: eukreign on January 16, 2006, 01:16 PM NHFT
Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 12:53 PM NHFT
By the way, two armed men approached him to give him a defective equipment ticket. Hardly an offense worthy of murder.

It was not defective, HE WAS DRIVING IT!

FWIW, something can be defective but still function. For instance, my dryer had a worn out bearing until my friend helped me fix it yesterday. It squeaked like hell, but it dried clothes.

But let's leave the definitions to people who care about such things, and get to the real heart of the matter. The "threat" that these guys posed was allegedly the threat of a minor traffic ticket. That doesn't justify what your murderous hero did.

Lex

Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 01:30 PM NHFT
FWIW, something can be defective but still function. For instance, my dryer had a worn out bearing until my friend helped me fix it yesterday. It squeaked like hell, but it dried clothes.

But let's leave the definitions to people who care about such things, and get to the real heart of the matter. The "threat" that these guys posed was allegedly the threat of a minor traffic ticket. That doesn't justify what your murderous hero did.

Hello? Are you serious?

Sounds like you are just another statist who thinks people should always do what they are told and never ask any questions and "leave the definitions to the people who care about such things".

You have 0 respect from me and I'm not responding to anymore of your filth.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: russellkanning on January 16, 2006, 11:00 AM NHFT
What would have been the best response by him?

Something similar, but, more stealth.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: Roger Grant on January 16, 2006, 12:59 PM NHFT
Just had to comment on your new avatar Russell.

"...in a van down by the river." ;D

Well....he has a van....and lives near the river!

Lex


Mark

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Quote from: eukreign on January 16, 2006, 01:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 01:30 PM NHFT
FWIW, something can be defective but still function. For instance, my dryer had a worn out bearing until my friend helped me fix it yesterday. It squeaked like hell, but it dried clothes.

But let's leave the definitions to people who care about such things, and get to the real heart of the matter. The "threat" that these guys posed was allegedly the threat of a minor traffic ticket. That doesn't justify what your murderous hero did.

Hello? Are you serious?

Sounds like you are just another statist who thinks people should always do what they are told and never ask any questions and "leave the definitions to the people who care about such things".

You have 0 respect from me and I'm not responding to anymore of your filth.

Sure, I'm serious. Does it matter whether you and I agree on the definition of "defective?" What I was trying to do was to let your incorrect understanding of the word slide, because it wasn't central to the point of whether your hero was right in murdering people.  I guess I'll have to live with having 0 respect from a guy who holds a cold-blooded murderer in such high regard. I hope this is temporary, though, and I can find some way to increase my worth to you. I don't think I'm willing to go so far as killing innocent people, but would you like me more if I beat up a woman, or maybe kicked a baby? Would it help if I was really mad at The Man when I did it?


Russell Kanning

Quote from: Mark on January 16, 2006, 12:53 PM NHFT
I hope Russell will chime in if I'm wrong, but it sounds like they're fighting what they perceive as tyranny in Keene without killing people.
If you were wrong, I would have to start a flame war and then set up a gunnest above your house like I read in my copy of "Drega:guide to freedom" ;)
I don't think it would be right for me to hunt down any bureaucrats. If they hand me a ticket, I could just throw it away. :)
If Keene leaves us alone, then there will be no tyranny to oppose. :)