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Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« on: January 14, 2014, 01:26 PM NHFT »

« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 03:19 PM NHFT by dalebert »
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 02:52 PM NHFT »

Wait a minute.  There are conspiracy kooks? Who knew?
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 03:15 PM NHFT »

There's a liberty movement?  Who knew?
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 08:16 PM NHFT »

Wait a minute.  There are conspiracy kooks? Who knew?

And my co-host is one of them! :) Next week's show will be completely devoted to letting Neal try to convince me of his various conspiracy beliefs.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 10:35 PM NHFT »

Almost every crazy conspiracy theory has slowly looked plausible to me over time. And if the government is denying it .... then it has to be true.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 11:21 PM NHFT »

 ;) that's exactly how I feel Russell, I trust no govt. paid, lying , thug and never will , even if their retired or fired for that fact still means they tried to be a pos but were rejected their probably the biggest pos
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 12:11 AM NHFT »

That's a false dichotomy. For instance, the gov't can be lying about 9/11 and what actually happened, about what they knew and when, lying about who did what, and so on. That doesn't mean any particular alternate theory about what did happen is true. Saying I don't believe in a very specific and very detailed account of what happened according to certain Truthers does not mean I automatically believe what the gov't said. Both accounts can be inaccurate to some degree or another, either because of lying or because of someone simply not knowing.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 12:34 AM NHFT »

"You dig in the litter too deep and your paws get all poopy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUYfOVxdCYI&list=UUMSf9LmLDSAlF3mtrDk246Q
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 08:25 AM NHFT »

Just so long as you don't try and refute the shape shifting reptilians! Alex Jones has the inside scoop on it all!
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 09:11 AM NHFT »

Just so long as you don't try and refute the shape shifting reptilians! Alex Jones has the inside scoop on it all!


I've seen a Chameleon and it's real dammit!!
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 09:47 AM NHFT »

That's a false dichotomy. For instance, the gov't can be lying about 9/11 and what actually happened, about what they knew and when, lying about who did what, and so on. That doesn't mean any particular alternate theory about what did happen is true. Saying I don't believe in a very specific and very detailed account of what happened according to certain Truthers does not mean I automatically believe what the gov't said. Both accounts can be inaccurate to some degree or another, either because of lying or because of someone simply not knowing.

Exactly.  One could easily argue that some government agents convinced and trained terrorists to fly planes into buildings (they've done the same sort of thing, before, in cases where it's provable, so there's not much stretching of the imagination required), without believing that the buildings were actually mined with explosives.  Neither would absolve the government of responsibility, but one is actually in accord with the laws of physics, and the other is not.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 07:30 PM NHFT »

Just so long as you don't try and refute the shape shifting reptilians! Alex Jones has the inside scoop on it all!


I've seen a Chameleon and it's real dammit!!

Check and Kingmate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnQ1wwtG3I
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 09:36 PM NHFT »

man Dale .... you protest the craziest theories the most ... why not just ignore them?
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 12:09 AM NHFT »

why not just ignore them?

That has historically been my POA. It's harder lately now that my co-host is a rampaging Alex Jones fan. It just keeps coming up. I don't even care about "winning" any arguments as much as just getting him to shut up about them.
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