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Becky Thatcher

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #570 on: April 30, 2017, 10:59 AM NHFT »

"If the earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything over the edge by now."

My 14yo.

 ;D :clap: That's hilarious...and I have to agree with him.
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Russell Kanning

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #571 on: May 02, 2017, 02:46 PM NHFT »

too cold :)
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #572 on: May 03, 2017, 12:27 PM NHFT »

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

Fortunately for us, libertarians are immune to this. We have special extra-smart brains.
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Tom Sawyer

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #573 on: May 04, 2017, 11:48 AM NHFT »

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

Fortunately for us, libertarians are immune to this. We have special extra-smart brains.

That was good and on point with conversations I've had recently.

I've been presenting the idea to people that many problems I see in people's reasoning is what I call shortcut thinking. Shortcut thinking is understandable in the need to make your thought processes more efficient. The problem comes in that it is more of a reactionary way of thinking.

If you are talking to someone and they hear a phrase that the talking heads use they think they know your position...  "You must be a liberal!" Etc.

Libertarians are just as prone to this... Many are really contrarians, their short cut thinking means they can be manipulated. And they can take positions based merely as a reaction.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #574 on: May 04, 2017, 09:44 PM NHFT »

Libertarians are just as prone to this... Many are really contrarians, their short cut thinking means they can be manipulated. And they can take positions based merely as a reaction.

"What are you rebelling against?"
"Whaddaya got?"
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Tom Sawyer

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #575 on: May 04, 2017, 09:50 PM NHFT »

Libertarians are just as prone to this... Many are really contrarians, their short cut thinking means they can be manipulated. And they can take positions based merely as a reaction.

"What are you rebelling against?"
"Whaddaya got?"

I'm much more interested in what you're for, then what you're against.

I'm not interested in Communism, but the position of the anti-communist could mean they're fascist. And the Antifa may be against Fascism, but they are pro-communist.

The next problem when you are defined by your enemy is you can take on the tactics of your enemy. The cop blockers start thinking they should have the equipment of the cops. And try to intimidate them.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 09:52 PM NHFT by Tom Sawyer »
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #576 on: May 05, 2017, 08:59 AM NHFT »

Libertarians are just as prone to this... Many are really contrarians, their short cut thinking means they can be manipulated. And they can take positions based merely as a reaction.

"What are you rebelling against?"
"Whaddaya got?"

I'm much more interested in what you're for, then what you're against.

I'm not interested in Communism, but the position of the anti-communist could mean they're fascist. And the Antifa may be against Fascism, but they are pro-communist.

The next problem when you are defined by your enemy is you can take on the tactics of your enemy. The cop blockers start thinking they should have the equipment of the cops. And try to intimidate them.


Interesting points there, Mr Sawyer.     

Overcoming engrained false dichotomies is a big hurdle I run into when trying to discuss things with people.   
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Russell Kanning

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #577 on: May 05, 2017, 04:10 PM NHFT »

Have you come across this Banksy related movie?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587707/?ref_=nv_sr_1

also listening to a podcast about the CIA and hollywood
latest one was about American Ultra
I guess they did an interesting ad campaign at comic con in San Diego involving free medicinal weed
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Tom Sawyer

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #578 on: May 06, 2017, 09:43 AM NHFT »

I have seen that Banksy film.  8)

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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #579 on: May 06, 2017, 11:49 AM NHFT »

was it good?
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #580 on: May 07, 2017, 11:28 AM NHFT »

was it good?

It's more about the guy who tried to make a film about street art and Bansky. He shoot thousands of hours of footage and came up with this weird pretty unwatchable film, so Banksy told him he should stop filmmaking and actually do some street art... Banksy didn't want to tell him how bad his film was. So the guy, went all in and created a art personae "Mister Brainwash", MBW and started a studio getting employees to create the art he thought up. He ended up cashing in on the LA art scene. Pretty manic crazy dude.  ;D
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #581 on: May 07, 2017, 01:58 PM NHFT »

funny
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #582 on: May 07, 2017, 03:51 PM NHFT »

It's all funny until someone loses an eye.
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #583 on: May 07, 2017, 06:45 PM NHFT »

Listen to what Moe says boys and girls...

« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 11:20 PM NHFT by Tom Sawyer »
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Re: Are conspiracy kooks hurting the liberty movement?
« Reply #584 on: May 07, 2017, 11:54 PM NHFT »

yikes
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