Vote for the Socialists. Make em flee to NH.

[free55]

Bush at least is appointing supreme court justices who do not appear to want to write their own laws.

Oh.  You mean like Bush-appointee Souter?

[JonM]

Bush at least is appointing supreme court justices who do not appear to want to write their own laws.

Oh.? You mean like Bush-appointee Souter?

I said appear.  You get what you get, I'd take these supreme court appointees from Bush over whatever Kerry would come up with any day of the week.

[KBCraig]

Bush at least is appointing supreme court justices who do not appear to want to write their own laws.

Oh.  You mean like Bush-appointee Souter?

???

You do know which Bush appointed Souter, don't you?

[CNHT]

Bush at least is appointing supreme court justices who do not appear to want to write their own laws.

Oh.  You mean like Bush-appointee Souter?

???

You do know which Bush appointed Souter, don't you?

Yeah we do, but Alito would never have voted yes to ED. However, he's getting quite a Borking!

[CNHT]

Wow, never thought I'd see a paid pro-government propagandist on the NH Underground.

We must be doing something right.

Hey we know who he is, IP addresses don't lie. 


"I know, it's only rock 'n roll, but I like it!" - Rolling Stones

[CNHT]

I read this on the FSP forums.  I believe the theory is, if you vote for the socialists in the other 49 states, the libertarians will have no choice but to flee to New Hampshire.  So everyone get down to MA and campaign for the Democrat for governor, cause if a Democrat wins the governorship in MA, the whole commonwealth goes to hell.

Why stop at just campaigning? Why not just go down there and VOTE FOR THEM? They come up here and VOTE...all the time! 

[Lex]

Why stop at just campaigning? Why not just go down there and VOTE FOR THEM? They come up here and VOTE...all the time! 

[Rebel Rob]

Why stop at just campaigning? Why not just go down there and VOTE FOR THEM? They come up here and VOTE...all the time! 

Can you really vote in their state too?  How?  It would be a fantastic strategy if you could.   

[CNHT]

Why stop at just campaigning? Why not just go down there and VOTE FOR THEM? They come up here and VOTE...all the time! 

Can you really vote in their state too?  How?  It would be a fantastic strategy if you could.   

It was 'tongue in cheek' because the socialists always figure a way to vote in our elections, up to 10% of the vote is illegal.

[citizen_142002]

I have some philisophical objections to this proposal. I think that many of you who read what is proposed would agree.

The bottom line is that even if the plan wasn't contrary to what many of us believe, it isn't feasible. The national LP doesn't get enoughvotes to change the results of the election. How would things be different if every libertarian voted for Bush or Kerry. The election would still be the same.
It is a nice idea that statist societies collapse quickly, but it isn't true. The Soviet Union lasted for over 70 years, and when these societies do collapse the impulse is usually to replace the with new "good" authoritarians. Most of Europe has been under one fundementally flawed form of government or another for centuries. Monarchy turns to Democratic-Socialism, and the usually Fascism or Revoluitionary Socialism.
Statists didn't come to power by voting for libertarians, so I doubt the reverse would work.

[Rebel Rob]

I have some philisophical objections to this proposal. I think that many of you who read what is proposed would agree.

The bottom line is that even if the plan wasn't contrary to what many of us believe, it isn't feasible. The national LP doesn't get enoughvotes to change the results of the election. How would things be different if every libertarian voted for Bush or Kerry. The election would still be the same.
It is a nice idea that statist societies collapse quickly, but it isn't true. The Soviet Union lasted for over 70 years, and when these societies do collapse the impulse is usually to replace the with new "good" authoritarians. Most of Europe has been under one fundementally flawed form of government or another for centuries. Monarchy turns to Democratic-Socialism, and the usually Fascism or Revoluitionary Socialism.
Statists didn't come to power by voting for libertarians, so I doubt the reverse would work.

If all "libertarians" voted for one of the main candidates, it might change the outcome, but that's never going to happen so why even discuss it?
Statist societies do have a tendency to collapse though, and if the US government and connected banking interests hadn't flooded the Soviet Union with cash and resources, it would have fallen apart decades earlier if there's any truth to what I've read. 

But the main reason I'm replying now is because I no longer agree with my own proposal.  For the foreseeable future in virtually all circumstances (except possibly when it's a local town issue where a significant win is likely), it looks to me like my time would be better spent doing just about anything else to help an anarchist/libertarian live a less taxed, less regulated, less restricted, less isolated life.  That's going to do more to entice people towards liberty than any vote I can think of... but perhaps I'm wrong.   

[K. Darien Freeheart]

Those "vote for the socialists so people flee to NH" kinda of threads fail... It makes the assumption that everyone who comes to liberty came from a Conservative background. If I knew (as in some god-like power) that state coersion were IMPOSSIBLE to get rid up, I'd like it directed in a socialist way. If there MUST be violence, let it help the most people.

Granted, it's total crap. Violence doesn't help people and it never will. But if I had to have a hell...

The same is true of the "elect the conservatives" thing.

I'd prefer to simply stop advocating violence. The non-aggression principal tells me that violence is not an acceptable way to attain political or social gains, and convincing people to move to New Hampshire for freedom is included in that. Violence begets violence, and I don't condone it, even if it convinces people to move.

[Puke]

Why do people actually waste their time reading ridiculously long posts that are obvious shit?

[bouncer]

Why do people actually waste their time reading ridiculously long posts that are obvious shit?

Sure we do gotta keep your eyes on the enemy. It's irrelevant that most of us are ten times as intelligent as they we need to laugh once and a while when they try so infantile stunt as this.