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Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins 'Range War' With Feds

Started by Silent_Bob, April 12, 2014, 12:34 PM NHFT

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Silent_Bob

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nevada-cattle-rancher-wins-range-war-federal-government/story?id=23302610

A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters.

Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally.

Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a "range war" against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of his sons was arrested while protesting the removal of the cattle.

"I have no contract with the United States government," Bundy said. "I was paying grazing fees for management and that's what BLM was supposed to be, land managers and they were managing my ranch out of business, so I refused to pay."

The federal government had countered that Bundy "owes the American people in excess of $1 million " in unpaid grazing fees and "refuses to abide by the law of land, despite many opportunities over the last 20 years to do so."

However, today the BLM said it would not enforce a court order to remove the cattle and was pulling out of the area.

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," BLM Director Neil Kornze said.

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner," he said.

The roundup began April 5, following lengthy court proceedings dating back to 1993, federal officials said. Federal officers began impounding the first lot of cows last weekend, and Bundy responded by inviting supporters onto his land to protest the action.

"It's not about cows, it's about freedom," Utah resident Yonna Winget told ABC News affiliate KTNV in Las Vegas, Nevada.

"People are getting tired of the federal government having unlimited power," Bundy's wife, Carol Bundy told ABC News.

By Sunday, April 6, one of Bundy's sons, Dave Bundy, was taken into custody for refusing to disperse and resisting arrest, while hundreds of other protesters, some venturing from interstate, gathered along the road few miles from Bundy's property in solidarity. Dave Bundy was later released.

A spokesman for the Bundy encampment told ABC News roughly 300 protesters had assembled for the protest, while a BLM representative estimated there were around 100 people.

"We want a peaceful protest, but we also want our voices heard," said Cliven Bundy's sister, Chrisie Marshall Bundy.

But clashes between demonstrators and authorities took a violent turn on Wednesday, with cell phone video showing some being tasered at the site, including Bundy's son, Ammon Bundy. Two other protesters were detained, cited and later released on Thursday, according to the BLM.

As the movement grew by the day, and demonstrators rallied together, bonding by campfires at night, local protest leaders warned people not to wear camouflage and keep their weapons inside their vehicles.

Both sides said the issue is one of fairness, with the federal government maintaining that thousands of other cattle ranchers are abiding by the law by paying their annual grazing fees, while Bundy's family and supporters say the government's actions are threatening ranchers' freedoms.

"It's about the freedom of America," said another of Bundy's sisters, Margaret Houston. "We have to stand up and fight."

Silent_Bob

Historic! Feds Forced to Surrender to American Citizens

http://www.prisonplanet.com/historic-feds-forced-to-surrender-to-american-citizens.html

In an epic standoff that Infowars reporter David Knight described as being like "something out of a movie," supporters of Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy advanced on a position held by BLM agents despite threats that they would be shot at, eventually forcing BLM feds to release 100 cattle that had been stolen from Bundy as part of a land grab dispute that threatened to escalate into a Waco-style confrontation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&v=bD61YFxUga4&feature=player_embedded

KBCraig

This isn't a win. It's a temporary standown before they really unleash the boom on him, after most supporters have gone home.

Jim Johnson

The Government has vowed legal action.

It may take ten years, but they will make sure a few people go to prison.

KBCraig

It's easy for them to be patient, when they rack up overtime just waiting for the supporters to leave. You remember how anti-climatic it was when the Browns were finally arrested.

Russell Kanning

It seems better than having them all mowed down.

Jim Johnson

Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 15, 2014, 10:45 PM NHFT
It seems better than having them all mowed down.

It's always, 'Mister Sun Shine' with you.  :icon_sunny:

Free libertarian

We'll have to start calling him, "Solar Russell" if he keeps it up.   :P

Russell Kanning

I got too much sun at the mineral springs in Florida yesterday.

BTW doesn't this guy seem to understand the media and his possible supporters better than Ed Brown?

KBCraig

Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 16, 2014, 11:21 AM NHFT
I got too much sun at the mineral springs in Florida yesterday.

BTW doesn't this guy seem to understand the media and his possible supporters better than Ed Brown?

Ed didn't even understand his own position(s).

WithoutAPaddle

Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 16, 2014, 11:21 AM NHFT
BTW doesn't this guy seem to understand the media and his possible supporters better than Ed Brown?

As memory serves me, the judge said at Danny Riley's sentencing hearing something like: before you jumped off the cliff, you should have looked around and seen that no one was jumping with you.  Does anyone have the exact quote?

Does anyone know when Cirino Gonzalez becomes eligible for parole?

Jim Johnson


WithoutAPaddle

#12
Harry Reid used to be a customer of mine.  He has a condo at the Residences at the Ritz Carlton, in Washington DC.  It was directly under Michael Jordan's, who is also a former customer (I didn't ask, but the big fat cigar Jordan was puffing on when I made my last service call there looked like a Cuban).  I could see how a guy who makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year can afford to live there, but I didn't see how Jordan could (heh, heh, heh).

There are stories circulating that Reid has yet another of those indirect interests in the disposition of that grazing land... you know, the kind where some company that he bought a share of for a pittance winds up getting a piece of something else, that in turn benefits from reassignment of this land's use.

I got a kick out of Barry Goldwater dumping on Lyndon Johnson, saying that when he first got elected to congress, he didn't have two nickles to rub together but by the time he became president, he was one of the richest congressmen.  Reid is using the same playbook.

KBCraig

Quote from: WithoutAPaddle on April 17, 2014, 03:02 PM NHFT
Does anyone know when Cirino Gonzalez becomes eligible for parole?

There is no parole in federal sentencing. The earliest way out (other than pardon or commutation) is "good conduct time", 15% of the sentence.

Thank those who insisted on "mandatory minimums". All federal inmates will serve at least 85% of the full term.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: WithoutAPaddle on April 17, 2014, 03:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 16, 2014, 11:21 AM NHFT
BTW doesn't this guy seem to understand the media and his possible supporters better than Ed Brown?

As memory serves me, the judge said at Danny Riley's sentencing hearing something like: before you jumped off the cliff, you should have looked around and seen that no one was jumping with you.  Does anyone have the exact quote?


If we all followed the advice of federal judges we would be in line for federal jobs and waiting for our pension to kick in ..... while "just doing our job" ..... or in their case
"protecting you from the executive branch".
If you are going to jump off a cliff. I don't see how company softens the landing.