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Author Topic: Maybe the sky isn't falling  (Read 8918 times)

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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #270 on: January 30, 2017, 08:20 AM NHFT »

Trump's meddling may give us another decade or two of "stability" while the world falls down around us.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #271 on: January 30, 2017, 11:50 AM NHFT »

My issue with people who point to the 'good' things that Trump has and proposes to do, and yes, some of the things he does have an immediate beneficial effect, but the thing is, people either forget, or don't realize that what's happening is, essentially, a changing of the guard. Not a changing of the system or the ideas. Simply a changing of the status quo of who's in charge.
Yes, Trump is, to a very large extent, engaging in a coup de etat against the old crowd of politicians, ousting them from their comfortable positions, threatening the money of their followers and clients, etc.
The trick is to realize that he's NOT doing this because he rejects that system. He's doing this because he IS draining the swamp, just not the swamp that everyone THOUGHT he was going to drain, and not for the REASONS they thought he was going to do it.
He's removing his most dangerous opposition, disarming them, curtailing their political and economic power. And one of the weapons he's utilizing for that purpose is popular support. He's playing the mob and using them as a power base to oppose the entrenched politics that are arrayed against him.

I see no reason not to believe that, once he's comfortable in his new position, comfortable with the diminished state of his opponents in government, and confident in his control and power of the political system, he will, as has happened in pretty much every recorded instance in history where one 'revolutionary' government has supplanted an older one, he will simply resume the old status quo under a new banner.

But people are always very eager to tell me I'm simply a pessimist, so who knows. Maybe I'm just wrong.
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Tom Sawyer

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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #272 on: January 30, 2017, 12:01 PM NHFT »

Junior Varsity Populist/Fascist

Happy to have Hillary not in office. But wondering how much of Trumps stuff is rhetoric to feed his base.

The up side of the election is the media took a licking and the two parties as well. Interesting times.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #273 on: January 30, 2017, 01:55 PM NHFT »

There are downsides and possible upsides to it, I just get twitchy when people start defending trump against the left. That's how you accidentally trick yourself into being a republican.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #274 on: January 30, 2017, 02:42 PM NHFT »

There are downsides and possible upsides to it, I just get twitchy when people start defending trump against the left. That's how you accidentally trick yourself into being a republican.

Good point, but for me anyway, Free republican doesn't have nearly the panache as Free libertarian.  I'm very attached to my panache.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #275 on: January 30, 2017, 03:17 PM NHFT »

Panache? Is that like a kind of pancake?
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #276 on: January 30, 2017, 05:43 PM NHFT »

Panache? Is that like a kind of pancake?

I have low attachment to pancakes and besides I don't know how to say "pancake" in French. 

Where's Maine Shark when you need him ?   
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #277 on: January 30, 2017, 05:53 PM NHFT »

I'll have the Lingonberry pancakes

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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #278 on: January 30, 2017, 06:19 PM NHFT »

.....you and your nine toed girlfriend.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #279 on: January 30, 2017, 06:32 PM NHFT »



Although they are more your countrymen than mine.  ;D
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #280 on: January 30, 2017, 10:04 PM NHFT »

So vat.... Vee ggreally doon't kaa.
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #281 on: January 31, 2017, 01:57 AM NHFT »


Happy to have Hillary not in office. But wondering how much of Trumps stuff is rhetoric to feed his base.

I'm not happy that Trump is in office, but I'm thrilled that Hillary is not. While his impulsiveness might accidentally start a war, Hillary had every intention of starting more wars.




Panache? Is that like a kind of pancake?

Naw, Panache makes bread and has restaurants.



Where's Maine Shark when you need him ?   

On Facebook. He broke down and joined the dark side. ;)
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #282 on: February 02, 2017, 05:50 PM NHFT »

Becky inspired this one...

Memes Away!  ;D

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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #283 on: February 04, 2017, 09:54 AM NHFT »

so true
at the lunch counter there are always plenty of trump supporters watching fox news
I have to make sure I say I want to throw all the bums out

solar power bob has more panache in his little finger than obama in his entire strangly shaped head
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Re: Maybe the sky isn't falling
« Reply #284 on: March 01, 2017, 11:52 PM NHFT »

Instead of watching the idiots that want to be our overlords, I like watching the amazingly beautiful things humans are capable of...

Van Gogh on Dark Water
https://youtu.be/4dKy7HNU4vk
Starry night ink on wate: Ebru art water marbling
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