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We The People / Aaron Russo video

Started by toowm, March 02, 2006, 01:10 PM NHFT

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FrankChodorov

#210
QuoteTo wit I offer you his involvement in not only the Green party

there is no functioning Green party in NH

Quoteand the DFCNH

yes, I am the chair of the DFC in NH and identified myself as such on Dan's show.

Quotehe is also part of the push if the SVR  to make the Northeast Corner of the Continent one nation ala the agenda of the UN. (The UN would seek to divide the world into 8 sections, New Acadia being one.)

do you know what confederation is?
do you know we are calling for the devolution of state power in VT (and NH and Maine) to the town meetings and confedrate up to ward republics (ala Jefferson) that act autnomous like the old city/state of yester year?
do you know that the person who devised this strategy is head of the Ethan Allen Institute in VT a free market, libertarian think tank?

FrankChodorov

Quote from: CNHT on March 30, 2006, 09:30 AM NHFT
See my previous post with 'Frank's' "credentials and you will understand why all this talk that is so anti-capitalist.

yes, I am an individualist anarchist/mutualist...a free market, anti-capitalist.

http://mutualist.org/

AlanM

That is scary Lawofattraction. The big fall could be just around the corner.

CNHT

Quote from: FrankChodorov on March 30, 2006, 09:32 AM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on March 30, 2006, 09:30 AM NHFT
See my previous post with 'Frank's' "credentials and you will understand why all this talk that is so anti-capitalist.

yes, I am an individualist anarchist/mutualist...a free market, anti-capitalist.

http://mutualist.org/

FSPers are capitalists...so what is your point? So I was not only correct about where you were coming from, but it is worse than I thought.
And so liberty minded folks need to be careful with which secession movements they associate...they may just be aiding and abetting the quislings...

Bill you are a quisling.


FrankChodorov

Quote from: CNHT on March 30, 2006, 09:36 AM NHFT
Quote from: FrankChodorov on March 30, 2006, 09:32 AM NHFT
Quote from: CNHT on March 30, 2006, 09:30 AM NHFT
See my previous post with 'Frank's' "credentials and you will understand why all this talk that is so anti-capitalist.

yes, I am an individualist anarchist/mutualist...a free market, anti-capitalist.

http://mutualist.org/

FSPers are capitalists...so what is your point? So I was not only correct about where you were coming from, but it is worse than I thought.
And so liberty minded folks need to be careful with which secession movements they associate...they may just be aiding and abetting the quislings...

Bill you are a quisling.



my point is that you can have capitalism without the state's privilege granting ability...if the state didn't grant privileges (aka a true free market) there would be no rent, interest, profit going to the capitalist class (landowners, bankers, corporations).

Ron Helwig

Quote from: lawofattraction on March 30, 2006, 09:42 AM NHFT
Something has spooked the gold and silver markets this morning. Spot prices have gone through the roof and volume in the mining shares is extremely heavy.

I don't know if I'd call them "spooked", but I sure am glad I own some gold and silver. I bought my first gold ounce just a couple years ago for $350 (including shipping)!

FrankChodorov

Quote from: lawofattraction on March 30, 2006, 09:46 AM NHFT
Quote from: FrankChodorov on March 30, 2006, 09:01 AM NHFTafter the war there was a political party called the "Greenback Party"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Greenback_Party

From your link above:

"In 1880 the Greenback Party broadened its platform to include support for an income tax"

no wonder they quickly folded after that...

FrankChodorov

Quote from: lawofattraction on March 30, 2006, 10:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: FrankChodorov on March 30, 2006, 10:09 AM NHFTno wonder they quickly folded after that...

Yes, no wonder. What I do wonder, though, is why we waste time discussing an antiquated political movement that had terrible ideas to begin with...

because in the movie Lincoln was quoted as saying the government should issue currency not bankers loaning money into circulation.

he issued greenbacks during the civil war because the bankers wanted to charge him 20% interest on the money he would borrow to finance the war.

Rebel Rob

Quote from: lawofattraction on March 30, 2006, 09:21 AM NHFT
This source is rather questionable, but it is an interesting read nevertheless:

FEDERAL RESERVE ORDERS TWO TRILLION DOLLARS TO BE PRINTED AND PUT INTO CIRCULATION!
By Special Report
Mar 28, 2006, 21:05
                                                                          TWO TRILLION $$

SOURCES WITHIN THE UNITED STATES TREASURY ARE FLABBERGASTED!

INFO CORROBORATED BY THREE SEPARATE U.S. TREASURY SOURCES

Six months ago, the Federal Reserve quietly announced that as of March 20, 2006, they would no longer publish "M3" Data. The "M3" was the amount of cash the government printed to put into circulation, propping-up the U.S. economy.

As of eight days ago, M3 data is no longer being reported, so there is no way for the public, investors or bond holders to know how much currency exists - and no way to gauge how much a "dollar" is truly worth.

Three separate sources in the U.S. Treasury have told me that this week, the federal reserve ordered TWO TRILLION dollars to be printed!

http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7350494.html

2 trillion in cash injected into circulation would create unimaginable hyperinfaltion. 
However, 2 trillion in new credit and other monetary shenanigans is probably much easier to fabricate. 
The M3 story is really quite interesting, but it's difficult to say what real significance there is in it.  After
all, the FRB has been doing it's best to camoflage it's market manipulation tactics for years. What does a few
trillion more in bank credit change? 

Got this off google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/cakewalk.coffeehouse/browse_thread/thread/240fd46c749255ac/b67ff45b14426c61?lnk=st&q=m3+money+news&rnum=2&hl=en#b67ff45b14426c61

This just in from the editors of Axis of Logic:

    Editor's Note: On 3/28/06 we published an article which stated that the
Federal Reserve has ordered 2 Trillion dollars to be printed by U.S. mints. We
mistakenly published this text instead of the one we meant to publish (below)
from Free Market News. The report on the Fed's printing of 2 Trillion Dollars
is not adequately supported with sources and supporting factual information.
Therefore we pulled that article today, March 29, 2006 and replace it with the
article we meant to publish. We apologize to our readers for this error on our
part. - LMB



From: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/browse_thread/thread/c7400ea4252d8cde/8577bf73369d5d95?lnk=st&q=m3+money+news&rnum=5&hl=en#8577bf73369d5d95


The excess money supply has nothing to do with printing more money.  We have
excess money because every country that can do so is dumping the dollar.  We
can only re-purchase the things so fast.  M3 counts repurchase agreements
and petrodollars among other things.  With oil pricing in Euros looming
that's exactly what we'll have too much of, repurchase agreements and
petrodollars.


toowm

Also, M3 is just one measure of the money supply - the broadest measure. Currency only is M0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply


Tunga

The flying monkeys are safe tonight. :-X  :blush:

marcyb1

Hi, I'm Marcy Brooks. I'm in the film.

Aaron is a great and gracious person. I hope the film gets the suport it deserves. It's good to see so many interested in our country's freedom.


Russell Kanning


sandm000

I saw the film on Sunday. I think that the tax issue (first half) was excellent, but the federal reserve (second half) had a paranoiac feeling to it.  Whether or not these things are true, Aaron Russo presented them with too much of an Alarmist bent.  (He would say, "The fed is doing this and the fed is in control of the money and therefore the BANKERS want to control YOUR life") Plus we only got like 2 minutes of examples of police abuses... Perhaps when he makes part II he'll include more bad cop footage. The stuff he did include was excellent, not for its depiction of violence, but in its exposing of the truth that too many police abuse what they think is their authority over the people.

So overall it was a pretty good movie.

If you get a chance to see it in SF, do it.

Plus, unlike many of the films out of hollywood these days, you will clap, you will hiss, and you will find most of the audience on its feet at the end of the film.

Kat Kanning