Real ID, HB 1582

[ravelkinbow]

Finance Committe Info and how they voted on 1583

Rep. King, Chairman voted to OTP 
Senator Morse, Vice Chairman voted for study 
Rep. Stone, Clerk did not vote 
Rep. Weyler voted ITL 
Rep. Wallner voted OTP 
Rep. Eaton voted OTP 
Senator Gatsas voted for study 
Senator Green voted for study 
Senator Barnes voted for study and introduced the amendment  ???
Senator D'Allesandro did not vote 

total votes 3   5   2

Since they may or may not vote on the money on June 7th it is not likely to come before the executive council that day....however if they do vote for the money that day it would likely come before the executive council on June 21st

[Ruger Mason]

You forgot Rep. Peter Franklin.  He voted OTP.  Also, D'Allesandro was not present for the vote on HB 1582, but he did vote in favor of the amended SB399 (with the HB1582 lanuage).  He's on our side.

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3756.msg67088#msg67088

[John]

So should we be lobbying the finance committee members to keep it on the table?

I think it can't hurt.

[John]

I also think that the Republicans are about to kick us (again) right where it hurts.

I told Sen. Morse there are lots of things I can agree-to-disagree on - But this is not one of them!

He and his pals in our Republican controled state senate (in concert with our Republican congressional deligation) pulled the rug out from under us on this, and I for one am not going to forget that.  Never.

Can those pricks win back any support from me?  They are going to have to try realy hard.  AND THEY BETTER START TODAY!

[ravelkinbow]

ya they are really proud of themselves right now, but we are not done not by a long shot

we need to canvas their towns all the small businesses and such and get the people of their communities to stop and think and then vote

if we can do that...they woun't be so full of themselves anymore will they 

[John]

they are really proud of themselves right now

Well I have some pride to.  Mine is not gained at the expence of the Liberty of others; I'm not some power-grabber.  These power-puppets may think they are helping themselves by helping their handlers (puppet-masters) in/from DC, but they could lose NH.

If they loose NH, they will have noone to blame but themselves.

I have leaned heavily generously towards the Republicans for as long as I have voted, but if this National ID comes to NH the game is over.  I will never assume that any "republican" has any real principles.

[John]

I think I hear the sound of payment to Judas.
Are we about to be sold?

[jgmaynard]

I think I hear the sound of payment to Judas.
Are we about to be sold?

30 pieces of silver, $3,000,000 means $100,000 silver pieces..... 

JM

[aries]

I think I hear the sound of payment to Judas.
Are we about to be sold?

30 pieces of silver, $3,000,000 means $100,000 silver pieces..... 

JM

They were antique silver goblets

[John]

Oh, Silly me.  I had not considered that high price.

We (the Republicans of the NH senate) hereby sell the citizens of New Hampshire (and their children & grandchildren) to the D.C. gang.

[d_goddard]

the Republicans are about to kick us (again) right where it hurts.

There is a really simple, easy way to kick these turncoats in the nuts -- nix their chances of getting re-elected in their own party primary. That will send a clear, loud-as-hell message to the whole Senate, the we won't take this deception!
However, there is a deadline is tomorrow, Wed., June 7th!

Irena changed her party affilication from "Independent" to "Republican" today; tomorrow she'll file to run for Delegate in the Primary.

Here are the details, they were posted by Dan McGuire to the RLC-NH list (and a few others, IIRC):

Delegates get to decide on their party's platform, bylaws and officers.
They are elected in the primary on September 12.  They meet once for a
convention (the Republican convention will take place on September 30).
There are as many delegates as there are State Reps.  All elected Delegates
AND all party candidates for State Rep, Senator, etc, go to the convention,
so potentially over 800 could show up, although practically, only about 500 do.

Here's how to get involved:

1. Make sure you are registered Republican or (horrors!) Democrat.  This
must be done on this Monday or Tuesday at your town or city clerk's office.

2. On Wednesday morning, go back to the clerk's office and sign up for the
ballot.  It costs $2 to register for State Rep.  You can also submit a
petition with five local signatures and save the $2.  Even if you sign up
for State Rep, you should also sign up for Delegate.  That costs nothing.
Should you win both, someone else will get your Delegate spot, and you can
both go to the convention.

3. Participate in the drafting of your party's platform.  See me or Peter
Bearse for putting in suggestions for the Republican platform.

Wouldn't you like to see the party platforms be more libertarian?  Run for
Delegate!  It's free, easy and requires almost no effort.  You often won't
have a primary race.

[Ruger Mason]

However, there is a deadline is tomorrow, Wed., June 7th!

Actually, thats when registration opens.  The deadline is June 16th.

[ravelkinbow]

the Republicans are about to kick us (again) right where it hurts.

There is a really simple, easy way to kick these turncoats in the nuts -- nix their chances of getting re-elected in their own party primary. That will send a clear, loud-as-hell message to the whole Senate, the we won't take this deception!
However, there is a deadline is tomorrow, Wed., June 7th!

Irena changed her party affilication from "Independent" to "Republican" today; tomorrow she'll file to run for Delegate in the Primary.

Here are the details, they were posted by Dan McGuire to the RLC-NH list (and a few others, IIRC):

Delegates get to decide on their party's platform, bylaws and officers.
They are elected in the primary on September 12.  They meet once for a
convention (the Republican convention will take place on September 30).
There are as many delegates as there are State Reps.  All elected Delegates
AND all party candidates for State Rep, Senator, etc, go to the convention,
so potentially over 800 could show up, although practically, only about 500 do.

Here's how to get involved:

1. Make sure you are registered Republican or (horrors!) Democrat.  This
must be done on this Monday or Tuesday at your town or city clerk's office.

2. On Wednesday morning, go back to the clerk's office and sign up for the
ballot.  It costs $2 to register for State Rep.  You can also submit a
petition with five local signatures and save the $2.  Even if you sign up
for State Rep, you should also sign up for Delegate.  That costs nothing.
Should you win both, someone else will get your Delegate spot, and you can
both go to the convention.

3. Participate in the drafting of your party's platform.  See me or Peter
Bearse for putting in suggestions for the Republican platform.

Wouldn't you like to see the party platforms be more libertarian?  Run for
Delegate!  It's free, easy and requires almost no effort.  You often won't
have a primary race.

Woo Hoo Irena !!  That a Liberty Lady at work 

[ravelkinbow]

Ok, now what can we do to keep the heat on and let them know we have not forgotten.

I have some ideas but don't want to post them here, those that know me please feel free to contact me privately.  There are way to many trolls about on the forum as of late and I don't want anyone getting info before WE want it released.

[d_goddard]

6 of us attended the Fiscal Committee meeting this morning. The Federal $3million "sucker money" was the first agenda item.

Per request of Commissioner Flynn from the DMV, the grant is still tabled. As such, there was no vote (again).
The commissioner says the DMV is still in the process of getting bids from vendors that would use the money to implement Real-ID, and upgrade their computer systems.

As such, this will come up again at their next meeting, currently set for Tuesday July 11, 2006.
Only once it has passed the Fiscal Committee will it go to the Executive Council for approval. We fully expect that the Fiscal Committee will indeed vote to take the money (suckers!)

Now, according to this site, the last Exec Council meeting is on  Wednesday,  June 21, 2006, ie, before the next Fiscal committee meeting. So , the question is, what happens if the Exec Council closes its session, before approving/disapproving all the relevant items?

It appears at this time that we have 2 Councilors (Spaulding and Pignatelli) who will definitely reject the money. A third, Burton, is on the fence. Burton is Councilor for the North country... and as luck would have it, a bunch of us Porcupines are going to be up North for PorcFest June 23 - July 1! I have the action item to organize a "field trip" to local towns during that week (probably on Thursday June 29) to pass out "No Federal ID" flyers. This will be a nice opportunity for neophyte activists to get their feet wet in the Free State