CNHT's paranoia about open borders

[tracysaboe]

Yeah, that's one thing I thought strange too. Why is the SVR petitioning the U.N. for soveranty. Seems to me if you were truly soveren you wouldn't need "permission." from somebody else.

Tracy

[CNHT]

Yeah, that's one thing I thought strange too. Why is the SVR petitioning the U.N. for soveranty. Seems to me if you were truly soveren you wouldn't need "permission." from somebody else.

Tracy

GOOD CALL Tracy!!! It's perhaps because they look to the UN as their higher 'authority'?

[CNHT]

I don't agree with much of this, but it's an interesting read nevertheless:

Illegal Workers: the Cons' Secret Weapon

By Thom Hartmann

03/29/06 "Baltimore Chronicle" -- -- Conservatives are all atwitter about illegal immigrants. Some want to give them amnesty. Others want to reinstitute the old Bracero program. Others want to build a wall around America, like the communists did around East Berlin. Some advocate all of the above.
But none will tell Americans the truth about why we have eleven million illegal aliens in this nation now (when it was fewer than 2 million when Reagan came into office), why they're staying, or why they keep coming. In a word, it's "jobs." In conservative lexicon, it's "cheap labor to increase corporate profits."

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article12548.htm

True since those who would put themselves in control in the enivisioned one world situation would create  a caste system of the wealthy in charge, managing the masses.
This is why schools are dumbing down...they just want compliant worker bees who get along.
And again don't fall into the 'partisan' trap. It's lefties like George Soros as well as righties...they are all in it together. But they keep the people fighting the created partisan battles in order to keep them from concentrating on the real enemies. Because if people were educated to all this, they would rise up and physically revolt against the manipulators.

[FTL_Ian]

You can dismiss them as unimportant, but they are responsible for 90% of the nonsense that is going on in the public schools.

Oh come now.  It's the parents who are responsible for supporting government schools.. nothing happens without their consent, whether it's the UN, the Feds, or the State that is behind it.

How about you, do you pay property tax?  Then you're responsible too.

[CNHT]

You can dismiss them as unimportant, but they are responsible for 90% of the nonsense that is going on in the public schools.

Oh come now.  It's the parents who are responsible for supporting government schools.. nothing happens without their consent, whether it's the UN, the Feds, or the State that is behind it.

How about you, do you pay property tax?  Then you're responsible too.

Um, I don't think so. I personally didn't sign any treaty with the UN that said the UN was going to oversee 'education for all' and neither did parents. I in fact refused to sign an agreement that I would teach and support world government and almost got fired for that.

To blame the parents is ignorant. They are as ignorant (and busy trying to make a living) as you are and have no idea why their kids are made to do the things they do, much less understand the UN treaty system, and how it influences our gov't. and gov't schools.

Teachers are fired if they don't comply with the brainwashing.

And EVERYTHING happens without parent's consent in the public schools, since they feel the children are the state's responsibility. Once in a while you get someone who understands the situation but they don't change anything, they can just opt to take their kid out, and most of the time can't even afford to do that.

Please don't even continue this argument until you have read more and understand what goes on in this country and with education especially! It is a supreme insult to say that I or any other taxpayers is responsible for the programs that teachers must follow in the public schools.

[FTL_Ian]

Stop taking the onus of control off of yourself, and acting like a victim.  We're all at fault for allowing this government to control us.  You're at fault, I'm at fault, and those parents are at fault. 

We could stop consenting tomorrow if we wanted.

I've already stopped consenting to much of it.  How about you?

By the way, you're right about parents being ignorant.  Hopefully we can wake them up before it's too late.

Please don't even continue this argument until you have read more and understand what goes on in this country and with education especially! It is a supreme insult to say that I or any other taxpayers is responsible for the programs that teachers must follow in the public schools.

Ad hominem followed by victim mentality.

Accept responsibility for allowing yourself to be controlled.

[FrankChodorov]

Yeah, that's one thing I thought strange too. Why is the SVR petitioning the U.N. for soveranty. Seems to me if you were truly soveren you wouldn't need "permission." from somebody else.

Tracy

GOOD CALL Tracy!!! It's perhaps because they look to the UN as their higher 'authority'?

THE VERMONT SOVEREIGNTY DECLARATION

Recent actions by the U.S. government including the prosecution of illegal wars, the Patriot Act, the illegal rendition of terrorist suspects, prisoner abuse and torture, citizen surveillance, the suppression of civil liberties, the suspension of habeas corpus, a foreign policy based on full spectrum dominance and imperial overstretch, and a culture of deceit have all given rise to legitimate concern that under circumstances of its own choosing, our government might not rule out (1) the suspension of the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights, (2) the declaration of martial law, (3) the militarization of civilian police functions, (4) the suspension of free elections, (5) the usurpation of individual property rights, or (6) the negation of the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

In light of these troubling developments, the State of Vermont hereby reaffirms (1) its right of sovereignty, (2) its right to nullify acts of the central government deemed to be unconstitutional, (3) its right to secede from the Union, and (4) its right to call a statewide Convention of the People to decide whether or not it remains in the Union.

two resolutions were approved by the convention delegates in the concluding session...one called for Vermont to return to its status as an independent republic as it had been between January 15, 1777 and March 4, 1791 and the other called for the SVR to seek membership in the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization.

Foreign Policy...we also favor negotiations with Maine, New Hampshire and the four Atlantic provinces of Canada possibly to create a New Atlantic Confederacy (called "New Acadia") - a nation about the size of Denmark and we would not rule out similar negotiations with Quebec, as well as membership in the U.N.

[tracysaboe]

as well as membership in the U.N.

Exactly. Exchanging 1 bully for another. That real independent. 

Tracy

[CNHT]

as well as membership in the U.N.

Exactly. Exchanging 1 bully for another. That real independent. 

Tracy

Thanks, Tracy. I'm glad someone sees the point. Why are they in Vt even considering the UN from which they should be distancing themselves instead? The UN already has a plan to fuse the more similar socio-economic-climatic areas such as the Northeast third of our continent, the middle and the southwest into zones. So this falls right into their hands and plans.

If you want to take responsibility as Ian says, for allowing yourself to be controlled, simply not participating isn't going to help.
Look what that has resulted in already with regard to who owns what in this country:

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3331.msg58876#msg58876

There are many people who are furious about this international land grab, but unless quite a number of others get concerned over it, it's going to keep on happening.

[Friday]

It's never too late to stand up for Liberty.  By the way, I have a vasectomy, so no kids for me unless I adopt!   

Here's an article for you, Ian... 
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/120/114002.htm

[tracysaboe]

It's never too late to stand up for Liberty.  By the way, I have a vasectomy, so no kids for me unless I adopt!   

Ian, they do have ways of reversing that nowdays. I took a road trip to Texas/New Mexico a few years back to visit some family, and I saw all sorts of bill-boards advertising Vasectomy reversal.

Tracy

[FTL_Ian]

Here's an article for you, Ian... 
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/120/114002.htm

I am guilty of not going through the appropriate followup testing.  I did it once.  There were a few swimmers found at that point.  I didn't bother going back after that.

After a vasectomy, one must ejaculate several times to clear out the pipes, if you will.

There's also a very slight chance that the tubes will reconnect, but as I understand it this chance reduces as time passes.  Plus, while vasectomy is reversable, it is not typically beyond 5 years after the operation.

If you think there's a chance you'll want to reverse a vasectomy, you should not get one, as reversals cost far more.  Besides, you're then subjecting yourself to two unnecessary surgeries!

I can't speak highly enough of vasectomies.  Unprotected sex with a trusted partner should not have risk.  Vasectomy eliminates it!  They are cheap, too!

[Fluff and Stuff]

I can't speak highly enough of vasectomies.  Unprotected sex with a trusted partner should not have risk.  Vasectomy eliminates it!  They are cheap, too!

Haven't you see Brokeback Mountain?  You cannot trust anyone when it comes to sex!  Plus, there will always be people that are willing to try various methods to sleep with your partner.

[FTL_Ian]

Thanks for the clue, Keith.  I'm not concerned.   

[Kat Kanning]

What happened to Ian's karma?