FTL_Ian's Personal Attacks on CNHT

[CNHT]

I think the people on the border have the right to defend their property...from anyone.

Well, defending their PERSONAL property is well and good.  Fine by me.  I don't support the right of anyone to intrude on a person's personal property without his consent.

What's that got to do with his "legality" status?  Is it somehow better if a "legal" person does it?

Nope. But it's a bit strange that it's being allowed to happen at all.........

Or perhaps you are trying to extend the concept to draw an analogy between "personal property" and "national boundaries"?

I really am confused, Jane.  I'm lost in this conversation because I don't know what you're talking about. 

Yes..? Does it matter? If you own a piece of property does it matter who is trying to claim it or for whatever reason? I just realized how bad a situation this was today when a friend called me that I have not spoken to in a long time. She said it is a 'war' down there.

How on earth are illegal immigrants intruding on personal property and refusing to leave?  I've never personally asked anyone to leave my home, but if I did, I imagine an illegal immigrant would be as likely to leave as a native born American.

Caleb

Not sure what you mean by that. You'll have to read about the reclamation of the land yourself I guess.

I don't know who owned the land my house is on two centuries ago, but I'll be damned if they are going to come back here now, and try to take it away from me under the pretext that I somehow stole it! THAT is what is happening.

[AlanM]

I have a solution: Let the immigrants have California and Texas. This solves 2 problems:
1) The welfare roles in California won't be our problem any more
2) George Bush will not be a US citizen any more, as he resides in Texas, which is no longer a part of the US. He therefore cannot be President and must resign.

[CNHT]

I have a solution: Let the immigrants have California and Texas. This solves 2 problems:
1) The welfare roles in California won't be our problem any more
2) George Bush will not be a US citizen any more, as he resides in Texas, which is no longer a part of the US. He therefore cannot be President and must resign.

Alan I love it! Is that like when we used to say it's OK if California drops off into the ocean? LOL

Ooops but wait, I can't do that because this is how the UN wants to divide up the land...and I can't do that because it would be ascribing to big BIG and I mean BIGGER government...

[Caleb]

Jane, I am beginning to suspect that you are referring to something that is pretty small and isolated.  Like I said, the immigrants I know have no such aspirations, and (this statistic is completely made up, but I bet its very close) I would venture to say that 99% (or more) of illegal immigrants have nothing to do with whatever you are referring to.

Those that do want to take land and evict owners ... well, I don't think that's right.  Like Lex said, if all they are doing is TALKING, well, last time I checked free speech is ok. (Pending the outcome of Russell and Kat's trial).  If they are actually trying to actually steal land and evict people ... well, that is a crime, no matter who does it, (although the Supreme Court thinks its okay if municipalities do it, but that's another matter.)

Like I've said before, time and time again, I just don't see a problem.  What if an immigrant kills or rapes or molests a child?  Well, you can name any number of crimes, and immigrants might do them and so might true-blue, born and bred in the U. S. of A. Americans.  No one is justifying crimes. (Except for crimes that shouldn't be crimes, but I digress.)

Caleb

[AlanM]

I have a solution: Let the immigrants have California and Texas. This solves 2 problems:
1) The welfare roles in California won't be our problem any more
2) George Bush will not be a US citizen any more, as he resides in Texas, which is no longer a part of the US. He therefore cannot be President and must resign.

Alan I love it! Is that like when we used to say it's OK if California drops off into the ocean? LOL

Ooops but wait, I can't do that because this is how the UN wants to divide up the land...and I can't do that because it would be ascribing to big BIG and I mean BIGGER government...

But Jane, getting rid of Dubya AND cutting down on the welfare roles is real tempting, isn't it?

[Caleb]

Jane,

Enjoyed talking with you.  Going to bed though.  Have a good night and sweet dreams.  (Just don't get mad at me if I have sweet dreams of millions and millions of Mexicans sneaking across the border and working for me and, since they work so hard, making me millions and millions of dollars.  )

Just don't try to "fine" me for hiring a good, hardworking immigrant, and we'll get along just fine.

Have to agree to disagree on this one.

Caleb

[CNHT]

Jane, I am beginning to suspect that you are referring to something that is pretty small and isolated.

Along our southern border, not isolated and very much in the news for weeks now...not small. Are you saying it's OK for a few people to be threatened? How many is a few? I suppose then the Kelo decision was only in Conn, so that was OK?

Like I said, the immigrants I know have no such aspirations, and (this statistic is completely made up, but I bet its very close) I would venture to say that 99% (or more) of illegal immigrants have nothing to do with whatever you are referring to.

That's right because they are all over the US including NH and this is just what is going on at the border. "Whatever" I am referring to is something everyone is aware of by now!

Those that do want to take land and evict owners ... well, I don't think that's right.  Like Lex said, if all they are doing is TALKING, well, last time I checked free speech is ok. (Pending the outcome of Russell and Kat's trial).  If they are actually trying to actually steal land and evict people ... well, that is a crime, no matter who does it, (although the Supreme Court thinks its okay if municipalities do it, but that's another matter.)

They are not just talking or it wouldn't be a problem.

Like I've said before, time and time again, I just don't see a problem.  What if an immigrant kills or rapes or molests a child?  Well, you can name any number of crimes, and immigrants might do them and so might true-blue, born and bred in the U. S. of A. Americans.  No one is justifying crimes. (Except for crimes that shouldn't be crimes, but I digress.)

That's right...crimes should not be justified because we are afraid we will be accused of being racists...because that is mind control and political correctness. Therefore I say, don't be coming down on people who want justice for the folks who are being encroached upon, stolen from, and threatened, JUST BECAUSE THE PERPS *MIGHT* BE FROM ELSEWHERE OR A DIFFERENT COLOR!!!

(I knew if you kept babbling you'd prove my whole point in the end!)

[CNHT]

Jane,

Enjoyed talking with you.  Going to bed though.  Have a good night and sweet dreams.  (Just don't get mad at me if I have sweet dreams of millions and millions of Mexicans sneaking across the border and working for me and, since they work so hard, making me millions and millions of dollars.  )

Just don't try to "fine" me for hiring a good, hardworking immigrant, and we'll get along just fine.

Have to agree to disagree on this one.

Caleb

Well there you go again, putting words into my mouth. I never said you shouldn't hire whoever you want! The conversation wasn't even allowed to reach a point of talking about working immigrants because someone started screaming racism just for discussing that it was a problem.

So I can't say I agreed ever to disagree with you on that.
I am beginning to think you wouldn't like it if someone agreed with you anyway....some people are like that.

[CNHT]

ascribing to big BIG and I mean BIGGER
But Jane, getting rid of Dubya AND cutting down on the welfare roles is real tempting, isn't it?

Sure but it won't stop the rest of the states from having welfare nor will it stop the rich and powerful to function doing evil wherever they are. And it still plays into the hands of the UN..it's what they wanted you to say all along.   

[Lex]

That's right...crimes should not be justified because we are afraid we will be accused of being racists...because that is mind control and political correctness. Therefore I say, don't be coming down on people who want justice for the folks who are being encroached upon, stolen from, and threatened, JUST BECAUSE THE PERPS *MIGHT* BE FROM ELSEWHERE OR A DIFFERENT COLOR!!!
(I knew if you kept babbling you'd prove my whole point in the end!)

Your whole point is that illegals shouldn't be allowed to kick people off their land? That is what you have been trying to say this whole time?

In that case, can you show me anyone who has disagreed with that?

[CNHT]

Lex please. No matter what I have tried to talk about, it has been turned into something else entirely so that it can be turned into an argument. No one has disagreed with THAT because they don't even talk about the SAME THING when they respond! I feel like I'm dealing with first graders. The comment about the KKK is an example of that. Non sequitor!

Some folks are so enamored of being oppositional they can't stand it if they DON'T have something to argue about, so they keep making up stuff...and avoiding the discussion entirely with these side trips.

The whole point, once more for the hard of hearing is, this whole immigration thing/violence on the border is being used by globalists to stir people up to  accept Real ID, stricter controls, or open borders...all of which will get them where they want.

[Lex]

Oh well...

[Fluff and Stuff]

The whole point, once more for the hard of hearing is, this whole immigration thing/violence on the border is being used by globalists to stir people up to  accept Real ID, stricter controls, or open borders...all of which will get them where they want.

That is true so we should open the border 

[Lex]

The whole point, once more for the hard of hearing is, this whole immigration thing/violence on the border is being used by globalists to stir people up to  accept Real ID, stricter controls, or open borders...all of which will get them where they want.

That is true so we should open the border 

[FTL_Ian]

Caleb:

It will be an honor to live near you in Keene.  You get it!  Thanks for standing up for principle.