Debate: Voluntaryist society vs. Libertarian society

[wdg3rd]

A good example is the old west really.

Not to take away from most of what you were saying, but I think that the violence and mayhem in the old west is mostly exaggerated and taught to us from movies. I think it was more like Warren's quote about Tonopah NV. It is still very much that way in small backwoods places out west - The people are free and safe, because the bad guys are worried about being shot by the peaceful citizens.

I realize a great deal was exagerated, but there is a kernal of truth to it as well.  There were some problems with gangs running some areas for a time.  Many people were willing to fight, but there were those who were appeazers as well, it's part of human nature, just look at France.

THere was less violence among private citizens in the Western states and territories than there was in the eastern cities.  Note that the reason we can remember the names of the major criminals in the West is that there were relatively few of them around for long.

[intergraph19]

THere was less violence among private citizens in the Western states and territories than there was in the eastern cities.  Note that the reason we can remember the names of the major criminals in the West is that there were relatively few of them around for long.

The East of that time period and the west can't really be compared because the population difference was immence, not to mention general situation.

[Russell Kanning]

Well lets make that "general situation" in NH then
Since we have less crime and fewer people in NH, let the outsiders point to that as an excuse for their cities.....we can just enjoy