Atlas Shrugged Movie

[burnthebeautiful]

I found it amusing, and slightly sad, that the only examples Donahue could think of as someone who should be proud of their achievements were baseball players and the president. When Ayn Rand states people should be proud of their achievements, Donahue is like "Oh yeah, like baseball players!". Who cares about baseball players? Whoopee, they can hit a ball!

Rand's philosophy is primarily about celebrating achievements of the mind, and how the things you do with your body are a result of the things you are doing with your mind. I'm sure Rand would appreciate the achievements of an athlete who spent time and effort to become as best as they possibly could at their skill, but still, it's rather sad that the average person thinks of a baseball player or a president, and not an inventor or a businessman, when they think of someone who should be proud of their skills and achievements.

[planetaryjim]

Say hi to Jarret Wollstein for me.  He bought me dinner once.  I have never been able to figure out why he took SIL international when the Liberty movement wasn't getting much traction here.

Okay!  I'll do it.  When I say to Jarret, "Lloyd Danforth sends mellow greetings," is he likely to recognize your name?  Or did he buy dinner for someone he thought had a different name?  One never knows which nyms are pseudo and which are "given."

It seems to me that Students for Individual Liberty and the Henry Hazlitt Foundation's free-market.net and other key resources have been consolidated into the International Society for Individual Liberty because Vince Miller and Jim Elwood run a tight ship.  They have been there for many groups that needed a hand, or money, or guidance. 

My friend the late Michael van Notten (RIP) was there when ISIL was formed.  If I have the story correctly, that was in Zurich or Rome back in 1982 or so.  One could look it up.  Anyway, a discussion was had about organization.  Bylaws.  Committees for this and that.  Michael stood up and said he thought the group should be run as an entrepreneurship, with Vince Miller as the entrepreneur.  He made the point that groups which are organized along political lines spend a terrible amount of time in debate, in committee meetings, in endless rigamarole, but don't get much done.  Happily, Michael's suggestion was widely endorsed and the group has been well run ever since.

[mraaron]

    Now is a good time to make and release a movie based on Ayn Rands writings..
it would be devastating to the system.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Say hi to Jarret Wollstein for me.  He bought me dinner once.  I have never been able to figure out why he took SIL international when the Liberty movement wasn't getting much traction here.

Okay!  I'll do it.  When I say to Jarret, "Lloyd Danforth sends mellow greetings," is he likely to recognize your name?  Or did he buy dinner for someone he thought had a different name?  One never knows which nyms are pseudo and which are "given."

I was going by Bob Danforth then.  He won't remember me ,but, he might remember buying dinner for Morry Tannenhill and some libertarians from Hartford, CT.    About 1971,  Drexel University at a libertarian conference.  Everybody was there: Rothbard, both Friedmans, Rorabacker, Roy Childs and Mises was in the audience!  Tannenhill and his wife's book 'The Market For Liberty'  was popular then as was Wollstein's  'Society Without Coersion'
The event was a big one at the time and should be memorable for him.  The dinner, less so.

[planetaryjim]

Rohrabacher?  As in Dana Rohrabacher?

[error]

"Bob"?

[Lloyd Danforth]

Yeah Dana.  He was very important in the beginning of the libertarian movement, before he got involved with Ronnie Ray Gun.

My father was Lloyd.  They named me Lloyd, but, to avoid junior they used my middle name Robert, thus Bob.  Most of the people I know call me Bob.

[error]

I'm confused now. Everyone has a different name!

[planetaryjim]

Dana Rohrabacher.  There's a disgusting name with which to conjure, if ya ask me.  I met him once, very briefly.  One of my friends, Tim Kyger, used to work for him as a staffer.  I know Tim couldn't deal with some of Rohrabacher's views.  Oh well.

I had no idea he was libertarian.  He's always seems so warhawk conservative.

[Pat K]

Yeah Dana.  He was very important in the beginning of the libertarian movement, before he got involved with Ronnie Ray Gun.

My father was Lloyd.  They named me Lloyd, but, to avoid junior they used my middle name Robert, thus Bob.  Most of the people I know call me Bob.

I would tell ya what I call him,
but kids read this forum.

[KBCraig]

Everybody was there: both Friedmans

Milton and Kinky?

[Lloyd Danforth]

Dana Rohrabacher.  There's a disgusting name with which to conjure, if ya ask me.  I met him once, very briefly.  One of my friends, Tim Kyger, used to work for him as a staffer.  I know Tim couldn't deal with some of Rohrabacher's views.  Oh well.

I had no idea he was libertarian.  He's always seems so warhawk conservative.

A lot of the shakers in the new libertarian movement came out of the conservative 'Young Americans For Freedom'.  Bill Buckely's group. There was a schism over Vietnam and the Draft.  Many left and joined the libs.

Rorabacker was important in the beginning, but, something happened.  I remember Roy Childs suggesting he get his hand out of Ron Ray Guns pocket, but, I never knew the details.  20 years later, on c-span I catch Rep. Dana addressing the empty house chambers with one of his speeches.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Everybody was there: both Friedmans

Milton and Kinky?

I've never heard Milton's son David referred to as Kinky, but, I never lived with these people

[Russell Kanning]

I'm confused now. Everyone has a different name!

not everyone
and we call him lloyd or double l as opposed to triple l

[planetaryjim]

Just so we aren't getting cross-wise with confusion, you mean this guy, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Rohrabacher

As far as the Friedmans, the late Milton Friedman begat David Friedman who begat Patri Friedman.  All of them have been prominent in libertarian philosophical circles.

To my knowledge, they are not close relatives of Kinky Friedman.

David:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_D._Friedman

Kinky:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman

Patri:  http://patrifriedman.com/

Patri's interesting Seastead project:  http://seastead.org/

Regards,

Jim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eric_Davidson