Another REAL ID thread

[Dreepa]

I think that it is important... so that we get our facts straight... that everyone who is ANTI-REAL ID real the real REAL ID act that the US Congress passed.  Don't rely on what you heard but read the thing yourself.

here is a link:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1268:



Edit: Ok I fixed it.  I copied the wrong link.

[Thespis]

The link is broken.

[JonM]

When you see cgi-bin and the word temp . . .

[Kat Kanning]

I can't real the real ID act.

[Russell Kanning]

How can the Real ID thread make a push for the biggest thread of all time if we make new ones?

I guess the longest one so far is also about Real ID .... "Freedom to Travel" .... so it must be our hottest issue on this forum.

[Lex]

Neither can I.

[aries]

I read it a few days after it passed.

[aries]

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.01268:

[KBCraig]

The whole bill became Public Law 109-13. RealID is Title II of Division B. It's a short section in a very long bill.


     TITLE II--IMPROVED SECURITY FOR DRIVERS' LICENSES AND PERSONAL
                          IDENTIFICATION CARDS

SEC. 201. <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> DEFINITIONS.

    In this title, the following definitions apply:

            (1) Driver's license.--The term "driver's license'' means a
        motor vehicle operator's license, as defined in section 30301 of
        title 49, United States Code.
            (2) Identification card.--The term "identification card''
        means a personal identification card, as defined in section
        1028(d) of title 18, United States Code, issued by a State.
            (3) Official purpose.--The term "official purpose''
        includes but is not limited to accessing Federal facilities,
        boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft, entering
        nuclear power plants, and any other purposes that the Secretary
        shall determine.
            (4) Secretary.--The term "Secretary'' means the Secretary
        of Homeland Security.
            (5) State.--The term "State'' means a State of the United
        States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin
        Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, the
        Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any other territory
        or possession of the United States.

SEC. 202. <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> MINIMUM DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS AND
            ISSUANCE STANDARDS FOR FEDERAL RECOGNITION.

    (a) Minimum Standards for Federal Use.--
            (1) <<NOTE: Effective date.>> In general.--Beginning 3 years
        after the date of the enactment of this division, a Federal
        agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's
        license or identification card issued by a State to any person
        unless the State is meeting the requirements of this section.
            (2) State certifications.--The Secretary shall determine
        whether a State is meeting the requirements of this section
        based on certifications made by the State to the Secretary. Such
        certifications shall be made at such times and in such manner as
        the Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of
        Transportation, may prescribe by regulation.

    (b) Minimum Document Requirements.--To meet the requirements of this
section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information
and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to
a person by the State:
            (1) The person's full legal name.
            (2) The person's date of birth.
            (3) The person's gender.
            (4) The person's driver's license or identification card
        number.
            (5) A digital photograph of the person.
            (6) The person's address of principle residence.
            (7) The person's signature.
            (8) Physical security features designed to prevent
        tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for
        fraudulent purposes.
            (9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined
        minimum data elements.

    (c) Minimum Issuance Standards.--
            (1) In general.--To meet the requirements of this section, a
        State shall require, at a minimum, presentation and verification
        of the following information before issuing a driver's license
        or identification card to a person:

                    (A) A photo identity document, except that a non-
                photo identity document is acceptable if it includes
                both the person's full legal name and date of birth.
                    (B) Documentation showing the person's date of
                birth.
                    (C) Proof of the person's social security account
                number or verification that the person is not eligible
                for a social security account number.
                    (D) Documentation showing the person's name and
                address of principal residence.
            (2) Special requirements.--
                    (A) In general.--To meet the requirements of this
                section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards
                of this paragraph.
                    (B) Evidence of lawful status.--A State shall
                require, before issuing a driver's license or
                identification card to a person, valid documentary
                evidence that the person--
                          (i) is a citizen or national of the United
                      States;
                          (ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for
                      permanent or temporary residence in the United
                      States;
                          (iii) has conditional permanent resident
                      status in the United States;
                          (iv) has an approved application for asylum in
                      the United States or has entered into the United
                      States in refugee status;
                          (v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa
                      or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the
                      United States;
                          (vi) has a pending application for asylum in
                      the United States;
                          (vii) has a pending or approved application
                      for temporary protected status in the United
                      States;
                          (viii) has approved deferred action status; or
                          (ix) has a pending application for adjustment
                      of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted
                      for permanent residence in the United States or
                      conditional permanent resident status in the
                      United States.
                    (C) Temporary drivers' licenses and identification
                cards.--
                          (i) In general.--If a person presents evidence
                      under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of
                      subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a
                      temporary driver's license or temporary
                      identification card to the person.
                          (ii) Expiration date.--A temporary driver's
                      license or temporary identification card issued
                      pursuant to this subparagraph shall be valid only
                      during the period of time of the applicant's
                      authorized stay in the United States or, if there
                      is no definite end to the period of authorized
                      stay, a period of one year.
                          (iii) Display of expiration date.--A temporary
                      driver's license or temporary identification card
                      issued pursuant to this subparagraph shall clearly
                      indicate that it is temporary and shall state the
                      date on which it expires.
                          (iv) Renewal.--A temporary driver's license or
                      temporary identification card issued pursuant to
                      this subparagraph may be renewed only upon
                      presentation
                      of valid documentary evidence that the status by
                      which the applicant qualified for the temporary
                      driver's license or temporary identification card
                      has been extended by the Secretary of Homeland
                      Security.
            (3) Verification of documents.--To meet the requirements of
        this section, a State shall implement the following procedures:
                    (A) Before issuing a driver's license or
                identification card to a person, the State shall verify,
                with the issuing agency, the issuance, validity, and
                completeness of each document required to be presented
                by the person under paragraph (1) or (2).
                    (B) The State shall not accept any foreign document,
                other than an official passport, to satisfy a
                requirement of paragraph (1) or (2).
                    (C) <<NOTE: Deadline. Memorandum.>> Not later than
                September 11, 2005, the State shall enter into a
                memorandum of understanding with the Secretary of
                Homeland Security to routinely utilize the automated
                system known as Systematic Alien Verification for
                Entitlements, as provided for by section 404 of the
                Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility
                Act of 1996 (110 Stat. 3009-664), to verify the legal
                presence status of a person, other than a United States
                citizen, applying for a driver's license or
                identification card.

    (d) Other Requirements.--To meet the requirements of this section, a
State shall adopt the following practices in the issuance of drivers'
licenses and identification cards:
            (1) Employ technology to capture digital images of identity
        source documents so that the images can be retained in
        electronic storage in a transferable format.
            (2) Retain paper copies of source documents for a minimum of
        7 years or images of source documents presented for a minimum of
        10 years.
            (3) Subject each person applying for a driver's license or
        identification card to mandatory facial image capture.
            (4) Establish an effective procedure to confirm or verify a
        renewing applicant's information.
            (5) Confirm with the Social Security Administration a social
        security account number presented by a person using the full
        social security account number. In the event that a social
        security account number is already registered to or associated
        with another person to which any State has issued a driver's
        license or identification card, the State shall resolve the
        discrepancy and take appropriate action.
            (6) Refuse to issue a driver's license or identification
        card to a person holding a driver's license issued by another
        State without confirmation that the person is terminating or has
        terminated the driver's license.
            (7) Ensure the physical security of locations where drivers'
        licenses and identification cards are produced and the security
        of document materials and papers from which drivers' licenses
        and identification cards are produced.
            (8) Subject all persons authorized to manufacture or produce
        drivers' licenses and identification cards to appropriate
        security clearance requirements.
            (9) Establish fraudulent document recognition training
        programs for appropriate employees engaged in the issuance of
        drivers' licenses and identification cards.
            (10) Limit the period of validity of all driver's licenses
        and identification cards that are not temporary to a period that
        does not exceed 8 years.
            (11) In any case in which the State issues a driver's
        license or identification card that does not satisfy the
        requirements of this section, ensure that such license or
        identification card--
                    (A) clearly states on its face that it may not be
                accepted by any Federal agency for federal
                identification or any other official purpose; and
                    (B) uses a unique design or color indicator to alert
                Federal agency and other law enforcement personnel that
                it may not be accepted for any such purpose.
            (12) Provide electronic access to all other States to
        information contained in the motor vehicle database of the
        State.
            (13) Maintain a State motor vehicle database that contains,
        at a minimum--
                    (A) all data fields printed on drivers' licenses and
                identification cards issued by the State; and
                    (B) motor vehicle drivers' histories, including
                motor vehicle violations, suspensions, and points on
                licenses.

SEC. 203. <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> TRAFFICKING IN AUTHENTICATION
            FEATURES FOR USE IN FALSE IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS.

    (a) Criminal Penalty.--Section 1028(a)(8) of title 18, United States
Code, is amended by striking "false authentication features'' and
inserting "false or actual authentication features''.
    (b) Use of False Driver's License at Airports.--
            (1) In general.--The Secretary shall enter, into the
        appropriate aviation security screening database, appropriate
        information regarding any person convicted of using a false
        driver's license at an airport (as such term is defined in
        section 40102 of title 49, United States Code).
            (2) False defined.--In this subsection, the term "false''
        has the same meaning such term has under section 1028(d) of
        title 18, United States Code.

SEC. 204. GRANTS TO <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> STATES.

    (a) In General.--The Secretary may make grants to a State to assist
the State in conforming to the minimum standards set forth in this
title.
    (b) Authorization of Appropriations.--There are authorized to be
appropriated to the Secretary for each of the fiscal years 2005 through
2009 such sums as may be necessary to carry out this title.

SEC. 205. <<NOTE: 49 USC 30301 note.>> AUTHORITY.

    (a) Participation of Secretary of Transportation and States.--All
authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under
this title shall be carried out by the Secretary, in consultation with
the Secretary of Transportation and the States.
    (b) Extensions of Deadlines.--The Secretary may grant to a State an
extension of time to meet the requirements of section 202(a)(1) if the
State provides adequate justification for noncompliance.

[Tunga]

(4) Secretary.--The term "Secretary'' means the Secretary
        of Homeland Security.

How can an appointed official in DC have any kind of Jurisdiction in a free Union State?
He can't.

The next definition tells why.
           

(5) State.--The term "State'' means a State of the United
        States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin
        Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, the
        Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any other territory
        or possession of the United States.

New Hampshire is a free and independent state that joined the Union of free and independent states that is known as the United States of America.

The "State" of Maldavies has no representation in Congress does it Judd?

[Tunga]

I'm very happy that our government is doing this. I'll give some of my rights up: - Barnesy

[NH Native]

           (13) Maintain a State motor vehicle database that contains,
        at a minimum--
                    (A) all data fields printed on drivers' licenses and
                identification cards issued by the State; and
                    (B) motor vehicle drivers' histories, including
                motor vehicle violations, suspensions, and points on
                licenses.

So, that includes SSN, huh.  Great, next time I get robbed, not only will they have my wallet, credit cards, and cash, but also my life.

[tracysaboe]

I'm very happy that our government is doing this. I'll give some of my rights up: - Barnesy

Fine, Barnesy. You give up your rights. But I'll keep mine, thank you very much.

TRacy

[aries]

           (13) Maintain a State motor vehicle database that contains,
        at a minimum--
                    (A) all data fields printed on drivers' licenses and
                identification cards issued by the State; and
                    (B) motor vehicle drivers' histories, including
                motor vehicle violations, suspensions, and points on
                licenses.

So, that includes SSN, huh.  Great, next time I get robbed, not only will they have my wallet, credit cards, and cash, but also my life.

I'm sure the government will decide something as easily removable as a card is a bad idea and insist that everybody wishing to have ID recieve a chip somewhere about their person. Forehead or wrist sound familiar... oh yeah, the book of revelations.

It's hard to be a naysayer when the path is getting more and more clearly paved.
It's only a matter of time before there's another "terrorist" attack, and we are forced, perhaps through a constitutional amendment to avoid complaints from the states, to carry federal ID at all times. Then when people get their card's security comprimised through theft, they will require that it be implanted subdermally.

[NH Native]

(b) Minimum Document Requirements.--To meet the requirements of this
section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information
and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to
a person by the State:
            (1) The person's full legal name.
            (2) The person's date of birth.
            (3) The person's gender.
            (4) The person's driver's license or identification card
        number.
            (5) A digital photograph of the person.
            (6) The person's address of principle residence.
            (7) The person's signature.
            ( Physical security features designed to prevent
        tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for
        fraudulent purposes.
            (9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined
        minimum data elements.

I think I may have jumped to conclusions.  SSN isn't here.  Are these the "data elements"?  ???
Either way I just realized the part I quoted was for the database, not the ID.     I guess it could still be used for ID theft though.  A hackers jackpot. 

Are the numbers still up to the state, or generated by the feds?

Does anybody know the details about the Prouse decision?  I think the court said that police can't stop cars at random for a license checkpoint, but the checkpoint would be valid if they check every driver.  I'm not sure about the reasoning though.  It might back up the papers please fear more definitively.