NH Comparisons...

[Republidog]

I was wondering if someone could give me some input on what some of the comparitive costs in NH might be. Every cost of living calculator I use tells me NH will cost me like 50% more per year to live there. I currently live in PA and the numbers below are figuring that my house is appx. $120,000 in value and I make appx. $36,000 a year. What would these be in NH?

State Taxes: 3.07%                                  $1105
Local Taxes: 0.5% * 2 or 1% total                $360
Car Registration/Inspection:                           $36
Property Taxes:                                          $490
Sales Taxes 6% (not on food/clothing) est.:    $300

And yes, I realize that NH does not have state income/sales tax. However, I'm just giving you an idea of what I pay now. Either NH utilities are insane or there are taxes I'm missing because I don't know why it costs so much to live there. I saw somewhere else that car registration was like $400??? Is that true? Also, I hear the property taxes there are crushing. Although I pay state taxes, it would seem they don't even approach the property taxes there.

[aries]

The property tax here varies by town, and some places don't have one at all, like millsfield, and other unincorporated places.

If you managed to get some libertarians put in as town selectmen somewhere, you could eliminate the property tax, but that probably wouldn't be very well recieved at all.

[Russell Kanning]

Cost of living is not cost of taxes only.
It would depend a lot on how much you pay for housing. In some places in NH $120,000 would not buy you much of a house and in others .... no problem.

For taxes:
Property taxes (state county local schools) 1.5%-3% depending on area. So say $120,000x2%= $2,400
meals tax 8%?
I think that is about it.

If you want to compare taxes ..... only one state can be lower .... Alaska ..... I don't think Penn would be anywhere near as low.
If you want to compare housing ..... it would depend on what area you are moving to.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Morgan Quinto 2005 Most Livable State
New Hampshire #1 (1 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #32 (22 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/sr05ml.htm

Morgan Quinto 2005 Healthiest State
New Hampshire #2 (1 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #21 (26 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/hc05fact.htm

Morgan Quinto 2005 Safest State
New Hampshire #4 (4 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #21 (21 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/cr05dang.htm

Lowest State and Local Tax Burden 2005
New Hampshire #2 at 7.4% (2 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #16 at 9.7% (17 in 2004)

Best Business Tax Climate 2004
New Hampshire #5
Pennsylvania #22
http://www.taxfoundation.org/

Best Climate for Workers 2005
New Hampshire #2
Pennsylvania #12
http://www.umass.edu/peri/resources/wei/techappendix.pdf

Least Poverty 2003
New Hampshire #1 (#1 in 2002)
Pennsylvania #20 (#18 in 2002)

Highest Median Household Income 2003
New Hampshire #5 ($52,409)
Pennsylvania #25 ($42,952)
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/saipe/county.html

Lowest Bankruptcy rate per 100,000
New Hampshire #7 (340)
Pennsylvania #23 (1,049)
http://www.morganquitno.com/SR05sam1.pdf

House and Senate Legislators
New Hampshire 1 per every 3,000 people (pay $100)
Pennsylvania 1 per every 44,250 people (pay $81,000)
...

[Republidog]

The problem with PA data is that the cesspools of Pittsburgh and Philly throw off the numbers.

The middle of PA is often referred to as the "Alabama of the North East".

I have no doubt however that NH is better in many ways, just curious how things compared.

[KBCraig]

The problem with PA data is that the cesspools of Pittsburgh and Philly throw off the numbers.

The middle of PA is often referred to as the "Alabama of the North East".

LOL... reminds me of the two most hateful racists I ever met. They were fellow students at Arkansas Tech, AKA "Redneck Tech".

These guys were neither Southern, nor redneck. They were city boys from Philadelphia.

The racial hatred of 45-50 years ago has been mostly gone from the South for at least 25 years. Even our homegrown overt racists (both black and white) can joke and get along; they just continue their misguided quest for racial separation. They can be summed up as, "I don't hate them. We can work together and get along. I just don't want to live with them/eat with them/see them in my church/date them/let them marry my sister, etc." It's more cultural tradition than true racism, although I don't excuse their racism just because they're ignorant.

But these guys from Philly... they reacted with visceral hatred at the very sight of someone with dark skin. And if you didn't catch the visual clues, they confirmed it right out loud: "I f****n' hate f****n' n****rs!"

We didn't hang out socially, those guys and me. We were thrust together for classes, but I really couldn't stand to be in their presence for long.

Kevin

[aries]

LOL... reminds me of the two most hateful racists I ever met. They were fellow students at Arkansas Tech, AKA "Redneck Tech".

The racism among people (especially younger people) up here in the nothern part of NH is surprising.

Probably because there aren't really any blacks up here. My school has two black students, and one hispanic.

[KBCraig]

LOL... reminds me of the two most hateful racists I ever met. They were fellow students at Arkansas Tech, AKA "Redneck Tech".

The racism among people (especially younger people) up here in the nothern part of NH is surprising.

Probably because there aren't really any blacks up here. My school has two black students, and one hispanic.

That is surprising. I found little racism from the part of Arkansas where I grew up, where there were zero blacks. When I got to college, I found the most racist comments to be from those from parts of the state with large black populations, mostly where whites and blacks had been thrust together against their will through mandatory school busing programs.

In my small, white, corner of the world 25-30 years ago, we didn't have internet or cable/satellite television. Just like the kids in northern NH, we didn't have much personal contact with minorities. Unlike the kids in northern NH, we didn't form opinions on race after being bombarded with negative images from around the country.

[Atlas]

I think most of the supposed racism is geared towards the gangsta blacks.

[aries]

I think most of the supposed racism is geared towards the gangsta blacks.

Yeah that is true.

What I mean by racism is increased use of slurs... also South Park made a lot of kids up here have an irrational hate for Jewish people.

My school started suspending people who used "jew" as an insult.

[citizen_142002]

Just because people repeat jokes they heard on South Park doesn't make them racist. The show is after all a satire, so the prejudices that some characters in the show exibit is actually meant to poke fun at anti-semites. Of course a lot of young people today don't understand anything that's tongue in cheek.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Just because people repeat jokes they heard on South Park doesn't make them racist. The show is after all a satire, so the prejudices that some characters in the show exibit is actually meant to poke fun at anti-semites. Of course a lot of young people today don't understand anything that's tongue in cheek.

Yeah, one of the points of South Park is to make fun of racists so much so that the level of racism is actual reduced and I think it works.  By the way, Jew is not an insult.

[9thmoon]

Without exception, the most racist people I have ever known have had the most vividlly pigmented skin. 

[Russell Kanning]

like zebras or something?

[Kat Kanning]

Thanks for this info, Keith...I'm doing the comparison of MA/NH to put in the MA newspaper.

Morgan Quinto 2005 Most Livable State
New Hampshire #1 (1 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #32 (22 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/sr05ml.htm

Morgan Quinto 2005 Healthiest State
New Hampshire #2 (1 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #21 (26 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/hc05fact.htm

Morgan Quinto 2005 Safest State
New Hampshire #4 (4 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #21 (21 in 2004)
http://www.morganquinto.com/cr05dang.htm

Lowest State and Local Tax Burden 2005
New Hampshire #2 at 7.4% (2 in 2004)
Pennsylvania #16 at 9.7% (17 in 2004)

Best Business Tax Climate 2004
New Hampshire #5
Pennsylvania #22
http://www.taxfoundation.org/

Best Climate for Workers 2005
New Hampshire #2
Pennsylvania #12
http://www.umass.edu/peri/resources/wei/techappendix.pdf

Least Poverty 2003
New Hampshire #1 (#1 in 2002)
Pennsylvania #20 (#18 in 2002)

Highest Median Household Income 2003
New Hampshire #5 ($52,409)
Pennsylvania #25 ($42,952)
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/saipe/county.html

Lowest Bankruptcy rate per 100,000
New Hampshire #7 (340)
Pennsylvania #23 (1,049)
http://www.morganquitno.com/SR05sam1.pdf

House and Senate Legislators
New Hampshire 1 per every 3,000 people (pay $100)
Pennsylvania 1 per every 44,250 people (pay $81,000)
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