Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS

[JosephSHaas]

...check #8149-00046056 dated April 15th, 2008 ....

... in the amount of: $331.22 signed by Stephen R. Monier, United States Marshal

is still owed by him to me:

...Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, 603: 848-6059 (cell phone), JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com ....

Cool!

...Since "they" won't hear me in the ...  the criminal arena.  ....

...in the state court either, as Judge Edwin W. Kelly went by the dissenting opinion in the State (by Haas) v. Rollins case of 1987 in Vol. 129 N.H. Reports 684, see: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2002/0209/marti098.htm

THUS: Monier, since you're reading this, or are you?; this Attn: the Auditor who called Keith to ask about this check and WHY it was not  "paid", to get back to her of to have Monier's successor now to this account also abide by the law here in New Hampshire for us Art. 12 inhabitants to pay me the "lawful money" by Chapter 28 Laws of N.H. for 1794 on this check to exchange within the next three months by Mon., April 11th @ 1:59 p.m. or I will be filing an RSA Ch. 503 Small Claim* Complaint in The Goffstown District Court  http://www.courts.state.nh.us/courtlocations/hillsdistdir.htm#Goffstown  against you: Stephen Robert Monier of Goffstown, N.H. per RSA Ch. 507:9 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LII/507/507-9.htm "Transitory actions, in which any one of the parties is an inhabitant of the state, shall be brought in the county or judicial district thereof where some one of them resides."

Therefore AWAY from Concord to where my plan is to eventually file an RSA Ch. 643:1 criminal case of "Official Oppression"   http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/643/643-1.htm   against Kelly for not going by case-law of the majority, to determine once and for all whether a judge can go by a dissenting opinion, as he did by agreeing with Joe Nadeau in the Premo case.  To do this by RSA Chapter 625:8,III(b) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/625/625-8.htm of "For any offense based upon misconduct in office by a public servant, at any time when the defendant is in public office or within 2 years thereafter. "

The charge against Monier being either: RSA Ch. 507:7 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LII/507/507-7.htm of: "Any person who makes, draws, utters or delivers any check, draft or order for the payment of money upon any bank or other depository, knowing that the maker or drawer has not sufficient funds in or credit with such bank or other depository for the payment thereof, and which is not paid in full upon presentation, shall be liable to the person injured thereby. " or just plain theft! http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-LXII-637.htm

Monier at first probably thinking that the Coinage Act of 1965 coins might be sufficient for the payee, for to be "paid in" part quality but full number in quantity of those type dollars of commerce to Keith, but that when I got the check as endorsed over to me, and presented to Monier for payment in "lawful money" as what the law prescribes by Section 20 of The Coinage Act of 1792 http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/coinage1792.txt since the Ocean NATIONAL Bank refused to cash it for me, he did KNOW then that there MIGHT be not "sufficient funds" or "Available money; ready cash" at the U.S. Treasury since the Bank I went to to try to cash it didn't even TRY to take for reimbursement of any silver coins to me to be re-paid to them from "Uncle Sam", but when alerted of this by me to Monier did he even inquire of to get me the lawful money for a DIRECT payment to me rather than an in-direct from some NATIONAL Bank?

This was his duty when told of such dis-honor of failure to pay, and so a dishonor or dis-grace to his oath of office too! A dis to the word grace, defined as not only of a clemency but that definition of the words fitness or propriety too, the latter meaning the quality of being proper; appropiateness = from the word appropriate = for the adjective of the word suitable, and for the verb of to take possession of, from the Latin word appropriare of to make one's own.

So where be Robert's "Rule of Order"? The Ninth Amendment! To pay me within the RSA Ch. 508:4 three-year statute of limitations or else! http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LII/508/508-4.htm

JSH

* http://www.courts.state.nh.us/district/claims/index.htm over to: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/RSA/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-LI-503.htm

[JosephSHaas]

I wonder how many more years this thread that nobody reads will go on for.

I commend Joseph for putting his heart and soul into this project.

Thank you L.H. as I defer to Roger Sherman.   

[JosephSHaas]

Banner #1 of 5 at hotmail today:

http://world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/10/5803647-giffords-suspect-due-in-court-as-nation-mourns?threadId=3024987&commentId=50713032#c50713032

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JosephSHaas at hotmaildotcom

When the gunman met her in 2007 to ask that question in person WHAT was THAT question? The one he told Parker that she gave a BAD answer to. She got his name to write that Thank You note, so I suspect that THE question is in her files as written by him on some form, no? The attorney for the defense ought to file a "Motion for Discovery" if not voluntarily turned over. I think ALL of us would like to know WHY this happened and to prevent another similar incident by those who cannot take wrong answers, to what? grammar? I suspect it's this tax is a debt B.S. without due process. The chance to offer a Writ of Elegit for up to half the apples of the tree WHEN the tax is declared a debt owed and by jury if over a certain $amount. This Federal crap of sending non-debtors to an F.C.I. to be so-called "corrected" withOUT a class in NO course has got to stop! WHERE is this "change" as promised by Obama on the campaign trail in THIS department. I see none!

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Reply#121 - Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:14 AM EST "

[JosephSHaas]

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I see that hotmail has changed the banner link from "Giffords' suspect due in court as nation mourns" of to 1361 comments on 20 pages, see my second comment as #24.2 on page 1 while looking for the word: "parents". And now the link of: "Suspect asked Giffords a question three years ago" from the same banner picture of Giffords goes to not this but that of: "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40996934/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001

entitled on THAT page of = "Profile of Arizona suspect: Paranoid, aggressive, conspiracy theorist " of 1388 comments on 17 pages.

Here's my #24.2: "JosephSHaas at hotmaildotcom

Hey! What happened to comment #25 here? It doesn't exist (anymore? as deleted?) .

Thank you Pat G for THE question by him to her of: " why (won't) politicians ...listen to the people"? and your saying that: "He got no answer"?

According to Parker she forgot what it was that he exactly asked her, as Parker could not understand the question either, resulting in the questioner's comment to Parker of that the Congresswoman couldn't answer the question?, no, I think not, but did of him saying to Parker that Congresswoman really didn't understand the question. So if she/ the Congresswoman didn't "under-stand", then she moved away? as not standing under the question until the questioner got an answer he liked? or at least was satisfied with?

Was the question put in writing? I heard on the news that he got a Thank You letter from her, so HOW did she get his name and address? On a Question form? that he signed? WITH the question? and so with no follow-up? WHY didn't the Congresswoman's co-worker make a notation to detail to the questioner a more detailed answer later?

Plus thanks AP in your writing that: "He did get an answer. She just couldn't understand his rant in the form of a question, and he couldn't understand her answer...."

As I wrote in #124 of today, my first reply (this #2), that maybe his attorney ought to file a "Motion for Discovery" to find this written question? JSH

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#24.2 - Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:52 AM EST "

[JosephSHaas]

Yup, The "Concord Monitor" won't let you go out on a limb from their very own word in the trunk of the tree, to have to aim for the bulls-eye only, this time of what the Astronaut said of NOT to be allowed to comment on!

"Comment blocked by moderator
Policy Violation
The post violates the Discussion Guidelines.
off-topic"

Here's what used to be there until just a few minutes ago, and so for about three hours only:

"RE: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/233517/shooting-suspect-held-without-bail

and: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/233517/shooting-suspect-held-without-bail#comment-169589

of: "

The Gov't "confidence game" by "forked tongue" devils!
By JosephSHaas - 01/11/2011 - 8:00 am New

Re: the "irresponsible words".

Thank you Astronaut Scott Kelly but what do you mean of the "unreliable" words = not reliable, the word reliable = dependable = trustworthy = back to these same words in one dictionary, and onward to worth or confidence in another = a feeling of assurance = freedom from doubt.

So in other words you're saying of to not speak with "forked tongue" right? To leave NO "doubt" in what the word means as to this or that end in the definition of multiple choices.

Often times in a court case the parties go to the State Archives to dig through the files for what the Legislators meant when they passed certain legislation to get their "intent." What did they mean by this word as to what end?

Like here in N.H. we have that "be holden" word(s) in RSA Ch. 80:19 of that you are either obliged or in-debt-ed to pay the property taxes. Do we have to be indebted? RSA Ch. 21:2 gives us the common usage of words unless it be technical. Is a tax a debt? No! Then WHY, if you choose NOT the in-debt-ed word can't you be obliged to go through due process of making the creditor have to prove that you indeed "owe" $x after the tax is declared a debt? And then if you can't pay it, to offer up a Writ of Elegit of up to half the apples of the tree. That IS the word from which the word lien is derived from!

So when "Uncle Sam" comes into this state and REFUSED to file his papers with our Secretary of State by RSA Ch. 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution, then and only then can his U.S. Codes become in effect against us Art. 12 inhabitants who claim our rights! "

[keith in RI]

http://www.box.net/shared/atummn9pf8

this is elaines appeal that was filed on the 19th of this month.

[JosephSHaas]

http://www.box.net/shared/atummn9pf8

this is elaines appeal that was filed on the 19th of this month.

"Re: Case #09-402 of Elaine Brown v. The U.S.A. in the First Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston
http: // www dot box dot net/shared/atummn9pf8

Thanks Keith, and to whoever D.M. is who created this yesterday, Fri., Jan. 21 on this box dot net, but which side of page up + down arrow is lousy: you press it for the next page and it skips to the middle to have to go back to the prior page and then down, me having had enough of this and so only got to read xx% of the not 95 pages seen by me but only to 51 or 59 whichever number you use and then to 60 I tried to go next but that it skipped to 79 for a blank red page and then crashed my computer!

From my notes I hope that Elaine wins this on several factors, including pages 5-6, footnote #7 of her wanting to say for WHY she went back to Plainfield after the release to ankle bracelet was for the "biblical teaching" of the husband and wife as one, but who was not allowed to cross-examine, and page 20, footnote #17  about the U.S. v. Page case in 364 US 51 (1960) that a "conspiracy" canNOT be set up for a husband and wife on the 371 + 372 charges.

Oh, I almost forgot, back to page 4 of Deputy U.S. Marshal Gary DiMartino saying that if anything happens to his wife or himself "everybody affiliated with this case will get theirs." Tr. II-a 59:6-17, 18-20.  Get our what? to be a pin-head too!? Page 8: the sniper (Deputy Rencor) to set his mark to our left temple too? like he did for Ed, and then page 49 (or 57 the inner page number, so 49/57) needles to our entire forehead and around our ears as Ed said of to him in court.

What a jerk this Commander Robertson was too (page 7, footnote #8) of wasting my taxpayer money on 74 Deputy Marshals for the June 6-7, 2007 event, calling for "outside support including the State Police of Maine, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts", Why not Vermont, as closer?  My guess is that the goons in these other two states are Ditto-brown-nosers to N.H.'s no-see-ums, re: the RSA 123:1 Federal failure-to-file from 1-8-17 U.S. Const. He said at page 21 that he heard of threats to law enforcement, but at page 22 when pressed for how he heard, saw or read he said he had no idea (as a true "Thought Police"man.)

Now (after Sue Berg at page 14) I finally find out what happened back in May (2006) [page 16] when Shawn Farnsworth the contractor for Ed & Elaine at the house was leaving, that the Marshals prevented them from doing so and convinced him to go back into the house for some work notes and then they told him to leave and they took over the house.  WHY didn't Farnsworth sue these bastards for violating his right not to be controlled over by these goons? Too bad our RSA Ch. 508:4 statute of limitations was reduced from 6 to 3 years. Maybe we ought to revise it based on this Federal crap! House Bill #___ for 2012, or as an Amendment to current H.B. #___ *

Good luck on getting the mandatory 30 yrs. sentence eliminated by the strategy at pages 18 + 35/43.

I guess my not taking the books away as Ed offered to donate to my home library (already full was my answer back to him by e-mail, with thanks anyway), [page 27] was the right thing to do, because their use in the trial was WRONG! per page 28 = U.S. v. Waters, 359 F3d 159 (3rd Cir. 2003) of some fingerprints on some folder cover but not on any of the inside pages.

Plus her holding a weapon info over at page 35/44 looks like an interesting argument too in that there's like a split vote since 2006 of the 6th + 8th of some separate, v.s. the 9th of a single, and that this 1st Cir. Ct. yet to decide, so to hopefully win on this to get back to a re-trial, or a perfect appeal to the Supremes.

Also at p. 45/53 about when David Vonkleist said "God Bless" as his parting statement off the witness stand, of that for a possible contempt citation, but at page 48/56 never pursued.

Now here's where it gets interesting of case-law in her case to benefit Reno, Jason and Danny in their other case: in that at page 46/54 in the Presley v. Georgia case 130 S.Ct.721 (U.S.2010) the Supreme Ct. reversed "when a lone courtroom observer was excluded from the proceeding" (reference: jury selection in THAT case), since a "trial is fair...when the watchful eye of the public is present." U.S. v. Grimes, 483 F3d 48, 61 (1st. Cir. 2007). The violation of a defendant's right to a public trial is a structural error, not subject to harmless error. U.S. v. Gonzalez-Lopez, 548 U.S. 140 (2006).

And this "very" interesting part in detail at p. 47/55 for both: (a) appellate courts have reversed for violation of the rights of the public members for "omnibus pretrial hearings" too! U.S. v. Waters 2010 U.S. App. Lexis 25038 )9th Cir. 2006), as Danny wrote a while back that of some other cases too of that a pre-trial is a PART of the trial and so when held in Portland, Maine thus a violation of the 6th Amendment for where it is supposed to be of withIN the state and district of where the charge occurred. Kat and others showed up in Concord one day as a "waste" of their time?  I traveled over to Maine twice and even gave Singal's Clerk a bill to give to him! AND last, but certainly not least: of for "the reading of the verdict" too! U.S. v. Canada, 126 F.3d 351, 364 (2 Cir. 1997) that was violated when I was expelled for saying my "Point of Order" but that was NOT included in the transcript! My case against Jaime Barry to the Merrimack County Superior Court case #08-C-175 unlawfully "Removed" back to the Feds and sent to Rhode Island where the judge LIED that this was done AFTER the trial, as it was done BEFORE "the reading of the verdict".

Thank you, - - Joe

* P.S. To forward to The House Grievance Committee looking into having Clerk Wm. McGraw there Art. 17 impeached onto an Art. 38 trial in the Senate for violation of my right NOT to be controlled over by U.S. Codes never consented to as an Article 12 inhabitant. [Minus your e-mail addresses, of course.] "

[JosephSHaas]

F.Y.I. http://thetruthnews.info/wordpress/?tag=elaine-brown

Mod: "Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Thanks for the posting found by way of GOOGLE for Elaine Brown Appeal Boston I think it was today. See the update in the posting over at our N.H. Underground. There's a link to the #___ page Appeal Document by: Leslie Feldman-Rumpler, Esq., BBO #555792, 101 Tremont St., Ste. 708, Boston, MA 02108, (617) 728-9974"

[JosephSHaas]

Check it out:  http://nhrepublic.org/

Soon to be there as a post? :

"Thanks Dennis, But that my comment would not post, as all I got was this: "  ERROR: Could not read CAPTCHA token file."   at: http://nhrepublic.org/wp-comments-post.php - - Joe


Here's a copy and paste of what would have been:
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In a salute to you my typing be now of: "Peace be to this" Website.
My contribution today be to the working man IN SEARCH OF...lawful money and a lot of land. Someday to carve out up to 17 lots on my 95 acres, for "Workforce Housing" on a Class VI road, see: RSA Ch. 674:41,I(e) pre-existing http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXIV/674/674-41.htm  but in the meantime my saying is not that of: "Uncle Sam Wants You" nor the JFK saying of: "What can you do for your country?" or state? but: What can Nephew John (as in John Gilman) do for you? (;-) , a N.H. Founding Father and in particular RSA Ch. 275:43,I(a) [ See: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/xxiii/275/275-43.htm (highlighted here too?) as above.]

To see how many members here would like to join forces to assert our rights to claim "lawful money" from the payroll. The law being Chapter 28 of 1794 (Vol. 6 @ page 155) = 2 years after the Coinage Act of 1792 , see: http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/coinage1792.txt and as annotated for Article 97 of the N.H. Constitution, see: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/oaths.html The dollar in N.H. is that of the U.S. Silver Dollar. We never adopted* The Coinage Act of 1965 for commerce to be used in the constitutional realm that by Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution was put in there by Roger Sherman for which history can be found at my friend: F. Tupper Saussy's http://www.tuppersaussy.com/ website R.I.P.  He was the author of: "The Miracle on Main Street" book and the monthly "Main Street Journal" back in the 1980s, when from my subscription back then and there from Swanee, Tennessee has finally landed here in "The Granite State" for to take it ONE STEP BEYOND. To assert our rights at both the National Banks (like "TD Bank" for The Toronto-Dominion of Canada) and the state-chartered banks, of which by their N.H. R.S.A. Chapter 384:5 oaths of the directors , see: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXXV/384/384-5.htm they shall RSA Ch. 384:3, I see:   http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXXV/384/384-3.htm operate through their RSA Ch. 384:3,III President "in compliance with... state law" or else!

Or else face criminal charges for RSA Ch. 637:4   Theft by Deception , see:   http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXII/637/637-4.htm    in the local district court for offenses less than $500.00 or to be indicted by the County Grand Jury when over that $amount. To report said crime(s) to the local Police first with an offer of to prosecute for jail time, or by private prosecution for a fine-only conviction, see: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/opinions/2002/0209/marti098.htm

The * footnote being that no U.S. Codes nor Statutes at Large shall be controllable over us Article 12 inhabitants here, see: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html and likewise Article 30 in Part the Second at: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/senate.html from: http://www.nh.gov/constitution/constitution.html without our 1-8-17 U.S. Constitutional "Consent", because as spelled out by the U.S. Supreme Court in the Adams case of 1943: an offer of consent, unaccepted, is not consent. On June 14, 1884 by RSA Ch. 123:1 , see: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/IX/123/123-1.htm from: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/NHTOC/NHTOC-IX-123.htm   we gave a general conditional consent to Uncle Sam, but that he would not accept. The he being that "agent" of like the GSA/ General Services Administration landlord (or in the current case of: Martha Johnson, the landlady), as the Title 40 U.S. Code Section 255 to 3112 "head" of "agency" over her tenants there at their Federal building at 55 Pleasant Street, Concord, N.H. being: the U.S. Attorney, Marshal and court. Tenants to put up a sign of to do business there with those who voluntarily do contract with them at that location of land, otherwise, even by The U.S. Attorney Manual #664, see: http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm00664.htm any act of force by them in a militant stance, off their premises on state or private soil, for that is the definition of the word militate: to use force as evidence ought to be met with the evidence of their non-filing, as such is available in certificate form from our N.H. Secretary of State , Bill Gardner, see: http://www.sos.nh.gov/and was, in the Ed Brown case, as I did give a copy thereof to the prosecutor: William Morse, a Bar member out of Washington, D.C., operating under the N.H. license of Tom Colantuono, to his secretary, with two witnesses of a State Rep. and The "Concord Monitor" newspaper reporter back in January 2007, to, by Court Rule #___ , present to the judge as exculpatory evidence of no jurisdictional authority there, [ see:  http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm too thanks to Attorney Lowell "Larry" Becraft, from Huntsville, Alabama for the list of other state statutes] but that was never done. This Morse character in contempt of court rule, but when I reported same to the State P.C.C. / Professional Conduct Committee against his boss Colantuono, they threw it out as I was not his client.  See: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/committees/attydiscip/index.htm The victims now of both Ed & Elaine Brown in Marion, Illinois and Fort Worth, Texas respectfully of husband and wife, whose N.H. Article 5 rights of religion have been ripped apart too, but not for long, see: http://www.box.net/shared/atummn9pf8 for her Appeal #09-402 to the First Circuit Court in Boston and my comment about this over at: http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=3868.9840 of yesterday.

So anything we can do with our payroll checks to get the quality of coin as pre-scribed by law that can benefit them too by the ricochet effect for their release by a Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus, first by Rule 63 to the sentencing court to maybe deny, then to by collateral attack to whatever Federal judge elsewhere they are located to do so by telling the GSA agent here to: "get with it". The judge on their case: George Z. Singal, of Portland, Maine with illegal and unlawful hearings as against both 18USC3232 and the 6th Amendment, since by the Waters case of 2006 (in Reply #9841 on page 657 @ 5:39 p.m. last night) pre-trials are a part of the trial! A current case #_______ at the P.C.C. dealing with this grievance, yet to become an official complaint. "Stand by" as they say, I'll send you a "Progress Report" later when this can-of-worms is opened like a Pandora's Box of us against these militants; to demilitarize back to the civil law.  JSH

cc: The New House Grievance Committee
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/committees/committeedetails.aspx?code=H45 "

[DonnaVanMeter]

i have yet to hear back form any lawyers too. i found the civil proceedure need to subpeona the media on that phone call. if you can, get the date from danny and the time and the length of time of the recording. that way, i can know how to word the motion/ order.


let me know if you can get ahold of sven. i re-requested him on email again. still nothing. i am thinking about maybe calling him, but the money situation again...


cirino

[JosephSHaas]

...if you can, get the date ...and the time and the length of time of the recording. that way, i can know how to word the motion/ order.


let me know if you can get ahold of sven. i re-requested him on email again. still nothing. i am thinking about maybe calling him, but the money situation again...

cirino

Donna: I called Bill earlier this morning and he said to wait until Sven can work on this for Danny's case before getting Reno involved, as for WHEN that would be would be AFTER whatever is put into Danny's case and available on PACER to THEN be able to draw from that to have Reno put whatever into his own case.

I also asked Bill if he had heard anything about that PCC case against Sven, and he said no, so I called and spoke with Jim DeHart too at: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/committees/attydiscip/index.htm and he said that there is nothing public yet on this. To check back monthly, as in my last call to Jim in December. And so for my February report to here then. ___

- - Joe

[DonnaVanMeter]

Will relay the info.

Thanks Joe!

[DonnaVanMeter]

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/Damn_VanMeter/NESARA/

[JosephSHaas]

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/Damn_VanMeter/NESARA/
....

Thank you Donna.

For NESARA over at GOOGLE I found:

http://nesara.org/main/index.htm

with an address of:

the NESARA Institute
23805 Greenwell Springs Rd.
Greenwell Springs, Louisiana 70739
(225) 261–8430
tni at nesara dot org

and a click over to: some book called "Draining the Swamp: by Harvey F. Barnard [  http://nesara.org/book/about_the_author.htm "a systems troubleshooter"] ,  at: http://nesara.org/book/index.htm with the http://nesara.org/book/introduction.htm of: "Americans live in two worlds simultaneously. ...10% of the people own, control and consume 70% of the available wealth while the remaining 90% of the people who produce almost all of that wealth live on just 30%.

It's just not fair. Why is there so much poverty in a world so rich?

Solving that paradox requires climbing a mountain of information...

[see the charts over to:] That check, passing through the nation's commercial banks, increases the total amount of currency in circulation ...An Alternate Solution...Forget deficit reduction and fiscal responsibility for a minute. Suppose that a method* could be devised to attack the nation's debt problem directly...."

* And so the answer** is in to buy this $____ book? http://nesara.org/book/order_book.htm To write to: tni at nesara dot org http://nesara.org/main/contact_us.htm

** +/or to read the proposed bill: http://nesara.org/bill/index.htm

http://nesara.org/bill/bill_main1.htm = "To amend the Federal Reserve Act of 1913,"

My reply: Oh really? Why not just force the banks to get the dollars they are supposed to be holding there? by their contract with us! These are not fiat currency notes, but supposedly backed by gold bullion, per Section 16, part 15 thereof the Act of so much gold bullion supposed to be deposited with the U.S. Treasury per pallet of notes monetized, but since Fort Knox is full(?) that we're now accepting gold certificates!?  Then when the dollars (defined by the Coinage Act of 1792 as 416 grains of standard silver) are required to be paid to us at the local bank, but are not there, then for their Director(s) who promised to abide by the law, to get them from their "Big Brother" Federal Reserve System Regional Bank #__ of 12 to where they are a member, BUT if not, then to have our Congressmen call in the certificate of to get the gold to sell for to collect the silver dollars to pay the patron, like who had accepted the Coinage Act of 1965 metallic coins of interior metal on a temporary basis, debased, of now for the bank to pay his or her paycheck in full. In the quality as pre-scribed by law!

Who is at this Louisiana address?  Followers of the author, or this "Shaini Goodwin"? "NESARA is an acronym for the proposed National Economic Security and Reformation Act, a set of economic reforms suggested during the 1990s by Dr. Harvey Barnard. Barnard claimed that the proposals, which included replacing the income tax with a national sales tax (see also FairTax), abolishing compound interest on secured loans, and RETURNING to a BIMETALLIC currency, would result in 0% inflation and a more stable economy." (emphasis ADDed, and so my question of then WHEN did Art. I, Sec. 10 of the U.S. Constitution get amended?  as put in there by Founding Father Roger Sherman, according to my friend F. Tupper Saussy http://www.tuppersaussy.com/ R.I.P. also for Bernard I read here of: 2005. )

See: "Barnard became aware of Goodwin's description of NESARA before his death in 2005. He denied that NESARA had been enacted into law or even assigned a tracking number, and condemned Goodwin's allegations as a disinformation campaign.[24] Goodwin, for her part, dismisses the NESARA Institute as a disinformation front for the Bush family.

Some NESARA detractors claim that NESARA is a cult designed primarily to provide an income to Goodwin and others."

Plus: has anybody seen this film? _____ " The documentary film Waiting For NESARA studies a NESARA group in Salt Lake City, Utah, whose members are excommunicated Mormons and hold weekly meetings in a local Kentucky Fried Chicken to discuss NESARA."

So to copy this reply and the 4-page NESARA info @ 80% to Ed today to ask him WHO his government instructor is out there in this F.C.I. to "correct" or is it strictly a "penal" facility to penalize in a penitentiary? And if so to "reform" = to improve, or change for the better? You call our tax payer money spent for this mental garbage to produce excrement to the local sewer lagoon an improvement!? = An increase on the productivity or value of who or what? The individual or the facility and its neighbors, or neither! What a crock of shit "Uncle Sam" is sitting on without this crap being flushed out! Disgusting!

Yours truly, - - Joe  / Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, New Hampshire 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059, e-mail: JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com

[JosephSHaas]

Re:

the NESARA Institute
23805 Greenwell Springs Rd.
Greenwell Springs, Louisiana 70739
(225) 261–8430 *

* I just called to there and after 4 rings got a recording of it being "disconnected".

- - Joe

Does anybody have the phone # of that KFC out in Salt Lake? I think that this NESARA group is well intentioned of to investigate, but that when they find out the TRUTH in that of the banksters out there too, then to DO something other than just to TALK about it.  Like me still to collect on Monier's check to Keith to me that bounced!

Modification: See also Sherry Shriner's http://www.omegansareliars.com/ website on this and some "BLASPHEMOUS NESARA VIOLET PRAYER" supposedly "used many times...during meditations in front of the Peace Palace of the World Court, The Hague" in The Netherlands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice