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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3570 on: June 10, 2007, 10:30 PM NHFT »
Maybe he was talking about a 50mm cannon. :)

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3571 on: June 10, 2007, 11:28 PM NHFT »
Yeah my mistake  50mm would be a cannon.. LOL  Maybe the browns should get a 50mm cannon then they will make the claim of bunker or castle like the media is saying.

As for the range.. yes your correct but if the browns don't have a .50 and the feds do they can sit there and fire as much as they need to to take out there target with no chance of ever being hurt by the browns unless the browns also have a large accurate rifle.. Heck we tax payers are paying for there ammo.  I would assume that the Browns would bunker down after they start taking fire.

And actually I saw the government now has a even more accurate rifle that goes even farther. FOrgot what the heck it was becuase its not a rifle that would make it to the hands of the general public.

I was just trying to make a point that this may not ever involve trespassing on the brows property.. and that both sides could sit a long ways away from each other and take each other out. Thus the double edged sword comment.

I don't believe in violence but do believe in being able to defend your self, and does require being prepaired.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3572 on: June 11, 2007, 12:29 AM NHFT »
Just as a point of warning: The shock troops are still in town. At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today, and was there all week. Several of them are using their Verizon Wireless laptop data cards to keep track of this without appearing to come from a government IP address. I suspect something's about to go down, again.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3573 on: June 11, 2007, 01:38 AM NHFT »
Just as a point of warning: The shock troops are still in town. At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today, and was there all week. Several of them are using their Verizon Wireless laptop data cards to keep track of this without appearing to come from a government IP address. I suspect something's about to go down, again.


Thanks error,

--This gives me another idea to contact the GSA [General Services Administration] to see if they are on "official" business for the federal government.  The key word of official, defined at page 494 of my The AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY (c)1973 as: "1. Of, pertaining to, or authorized by a proper authority; authoritative." The "property authority" to likewise be put on notice to there being a non-filing of the RSA 123:1 federal papers with Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State as required by Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 17 of the U.S. Constitution. See http://www.ahla.com/public_view_brief.asp?mstr=30 for this quoted phrase, and http://www.ahla.com/public_view_advisory.asp?mstr=71 for the motel questionnaire.

--To give the Residence Inn a courtesy call at 643-4511 later today, http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/lebri-residence-inn-hanover-lebanon/ to warn them that they might get stiffed http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stiffed or cheated out of the motel bill owed when their boss might not allow the bill! and the agent might refuse to cough up the dough! We, the People: their ultimate boss as the master over these public servants who have run amuk! ...

...with a referral to over here by way of an e-mail in just a few minutes to the Greater Lebanon Chamber of Commerce http://www.lebanonchamber.com/ lebanonchamber at lebanonchamber dot com to be "on the lookout" for these "cheats" of bills and their own oaths of office, me trying to get their middle boss of the G.S.A. to dis-allow all expeditures withIN our state of New Hampshire UNTIL they comply with the law!...

...for the GSA, see http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contactus.do Attn: Jim Hart at jim.harte at gsa dot gov for "Government Travel".  So to, in effect. take away their fighting ammunition of their expense accounts! as OUT-OF-ORDER! Them to be called back to H.Q.'s from this Field Operation! NOW!

Yours truly, Joe

P.S. They ought to not look forward in time, but backwards, as to take an early retirement and maybe find some of those un-accounted for federal government loans of cannons, as reported about over at http://bronzecannon.com/current_news.htm from http://bronzecannon.com/index2.html 

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3574 on: June 11, 2007, 02:00 AM NHFT »
The GSA manages most federal property, under Article I of the Constitution, to wit:

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To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;

I have no idea what they're doing involved in procuring travel services for government bureaucrats.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3575 on: June 11, 2007, 02:24 AM NHFT »
The GSA manages most federal property, under Article I of the Constitution, to wit:

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To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;

I have no idea what they're doing involved in procuring travel services for government bureaucrats.

Error,  That's the key: WHERE is: "the consent of the legislature"? for New Hampshire.  It's in RSA Ch. 123:1 as from the start in 1883, but with the proviso that they file the proper paperwork as signed under oath by some officer with Bill Gardner's Office for BEFORE they have jurisdiction up here for ANYthing including their court from which the order therefrom is like shit discharged out a sewer pipe!  :shithitsthefan: The fan in this smiley is what is supposed to be the check-and-balance of this statutory power OVER the Feds, but the wimps up here as our public servants are scared shitless by the Feds, and the State Police are nothing but government goon/robots  :glasses7: of the governor who plays stupid   :mf_farmer: and lies that this is not even on his radar screen!?

- - Joe

P.S. I just sent that e-mail out to both the Chamber of Commerce, and Federal G.S.A. "Government Travel" man Jim Harte, plus The Mayor, and his Assistant, plus the seven (7) City Councilors to see if any reply, or maybe alert their Police Chief to assert some Law Enforcement! against these outlaws! maybe with back-up from Grafton County Sheriff Doug Dutile from North Haverhill, County Seat for Lebanon, and Sullivan County Sheriff Michal Prozzo from Newport, County Seat for Plainfield, who supposedly got an informational packet from Jack McLamb, of "Aid & Abet" Newsletter, proving to him that he is the CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT Officer withIN the county UNDER which the State and Feds take their Orders from him.  I presume a part of the packet includes page #__ from the book: ANDERSON ON SHERIFFS that reads this, and which state copy is locked up in the basement of the N.H. Supreme Court Law Library in Concord.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3576 on: June 11, 2007, 08:08 AM NHFT »
Just as a point of warning: The shock troops are still in town. At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today, and was there all week. Several of them are using their Verizon Wireless laptop data cards to keep track of this without appearing to come from a government IP address. I suspect something's about to go down, again.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3577 on: June 11, 2007, 10:01 AM NHFT »
We should set up an e-copwatch.

I'm already watching.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3578 on: June 11, 2007, 10:06 AM NHFT »
Just as a point of warning: The shock troops are still in town. At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today, and was there all week. Several of them are using their Verizon Wireless laptop data cards to keep track of this without appearing to come from a government IP address. I suspect something's about to go down, again.

The fed at the Residence Inn just read this post a couple of minutes ago. So I guess they're still parked there. Overall activity's way up from what it was after the seizure last week. Shit's probably about to fly, folks. :shithitsthefan:
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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3579 on: June 11, 2007, 10:25 AM NHFT »
Someone want to check in there? :)
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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3580 on: June 11, 2007, 10:37 AM NHFT »
Just as a point of warning: The shock troops are still in town. At least one of them is operating out of the Residence Inn, 32 Centerra Parkway, Lebanon, as of earlier today, and was there all week. Several of them are using their Verizon Wireless laptop data cards to keep track of this without appearing to come from a government IP address. I suspect something's about to go down, again.


Thanks error, ...

...for the GSA, see http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/contactus.do Attn: Jim Hart at jim.harte at gsa dot gov for "Government Travel".  So to, in effect. take away their fighting ammunition of their expense accounts! as OUT-OF-ORDER! Them to be called back to H.Q.'s from this Field Operation! NOW!
....


This was received in my inbox at exactly 4:00 a.m. earlier this morning from Jim Harte at the e-mail address given that reads: "Subject: James L. Harte/MTT/CO/GSA/GOV is out of the office.  -- I will be out of the office starting 06/08/2007 and will not return until 06/18/2007.  Please remove my name from any and all joke lists.  Thanks and have a good day."

-- Joe

P.S. As if he has no deputy, or some superior who does NOT take over travel expenses to build up in the 10-day absence.  I guess the federal goons can run amuk with their government credit cards and then AFTER the raid give this as an excuse that I should have contacted him with this information on THE day of the raid, the day BEFORE he went on vacation to HALT any unlawful and illegal expenses.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3581 on: June 11, 2007, 10:39 AM NHFT »
"Please remove my name from any and all joke lists.  Thanks and have a good day."

What do you get when you form a government?

Tyranny.

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3582 on: June 11, 2007, 10:57 AM NHFT »
I have been listening to news reports and they mostly say the attack was thwarted because a man walking a dog saw the feds before they attacked.

Heck with the surveillance camera. We just need to walk more dogs.  ;)

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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3583 on: June 11, 2007, 10:58 AM NHFT »
<<Overall activity's way up from what it was after the seizure last week. >>

what kind of activity do you mean?

I've never known you to be alarmist so I consider this warning a serious matter.
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Re: ATF headed for Brown's 6/7
« Reply #3584 on: June 11, 2007, 11:00 AM NHFT »
error if u could give me more info; something i can send out in a quasi-news release...that would be helpful
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