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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3735 on: June 12, 2007, 11:30 PM NHFT »
talked to reno on a cell phone at 11:30 p.m. all seemed normal but he sounded tense.   I was calling because a producer from coast to coast am called me and requested a ring from the Brown home.   I didn't want to give her the number without permission so i just asked reno to call her.

I assume they are trying to get someone from the brown home to appear on the overnight show tonight. 
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3736 on: June 12, 2007, 11:42 PM NHFT »
by the way this new hampshire free time business is making it difficult to figure out when things happened earlier in the day.  makes it hard to write news releases.
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3737 on: June 13, 2007, 12:00 AM NHFT »
IN AM  start postiong pictures by  (THRU)  changing your AVATAR
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3738 on: June 13, 2007, 12:08 AM NHFT »
by the way this new hampshire free time business is making it difficult to figure out when things happened earlier in the day.  makes it hard to write news releases.


1. Go here: http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?action=profile
2. Then in the left hand menu under Modify Profile click on "Look and Layout Preferences".
3. Where it says "Time Offset" enter .75 and then click Change profile at the bottom.
4. Your time should now match EST.
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3739 on: June 13, 2007, 12:39 AM NHFT »
I'm thinking that the MSM should be contacted, and Stossel ought to be informed of the developing situation.  Does anyone know if the We the People foundation is planning on doing anything?  I'd love to see that Ginormous "No answers, no taxes" banner put right across the entrance to the Brown's property!

I think it would be sppoky to have "V" masks or printed pictures of the mask hanging EVERYWHERE - like "V" is spying on the feds wherever they look.   :icon_pirat:

For everyone in NH and those showing up next week to PorCFest, bring a video camera or buy one.  Some digital cameras can film short video clips with sound - bigger memory cards obviously allow more/longer video.

The more video that we have, the more that we can supply to anyone who will broadcast it.  Maybe set up a little project where some of the people out of the several hundred showing up at PorCFest go visit the people on Dada's list and try to interview them about Ed.  As if the proper paperwork has been filed, if the Feds have any legal authority, who granted them the authority and why, if such authority could have been denied, etc.  Find County cops and State troopers and ask them lots of questions too, especially about inter-agency cooperation agreements and who authorized and funded them.  Do the troopers themselves think it's a good idea, or just the Police Chief?  Use good judgement about putting the troopers on the spot, and honor any requests for answering anonymously / off the record. 

Get good shots of identification, license plates, etc.  Use polarizing filters to remove glare.  Accurately date and time stamp if possible so that a chronology can be assembled.  Film an independent clock or an audio time check on the radio to establish the legitimacy of the time stamp, or ask a cop what time it is on camera. If we can't save Ed and Elaine, we can turn around and damn their murderers and forever tarnish the reputations of the people complicit with those calling the shots.  Maybe there will be a Congressional hearing that we'll want plenty of irrefutable evidence for.  We need to document as much culpability on their part as possible.  The more we film, the more their lies will be exposed.

Maybe we can work this into a packet to be distributed to porcupine investigators?  Checklists for photo and video, lists of standard questions to ask, applicable RSA's, and room for notes.  Maybe even notices of Constitutional and RSA violations that we could hand out to the cops and feds.  "You've been officially notified/cited!"  On video!

Go in groups, with a printed copy of any laws or court rulings showing that you have every right to film them while on duty, and consider the possibility of going with an armed escort.  Try to have them sign something stating that they ordered you against your will to stop recording.  I have a ballistic vest with a trauma plate, which would stop handgun ammo or a taser, a regular vest with some sheet metal attached inside it would provide taser protection as well.

Thank you so much, everyone who has put forth the effort to monitor the situation and to ensure the safety of the Browns.  May the blessings of peace and clarity of though be upon you as this situation unfolds.  When evil reveals itself, we will hold it up for all the world to see. 

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3740 on: June 13, 2007, 01:08 AM NHFT »


For everyone in NH and those showing up next week to PorCFest, bring a video camera or buy one.  Some digital cameras can film short video clips with sound - bigger memory cards obviously allow more/longer video.

The more video that we have, the more that we can supply to anyone who will broadcast it. 

I agree with this 100% the more cameras, the better. If there is no video footage of whatever seige may take place, then the feds will win no matter what the outcome. If (god forbid) they end up dead the feds will probably all it suicide.
We need an army of amateur camara operators and photographers uploading everything they can.
Imagine if everytime someone typed the word "taxes" or "fascism" into google they got video of ed brown.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3741 on: June 13, 2007, 06:26 AM NHFT »
Plus, re: the robots.  This is maybe WHY Randy Weaver is heading this way, because one with a red eye was used to up at his cabin before he shot it dead, and then the Feds retaliated and shot his wife dead holding their baby in her arms on their porch.  I had written to the Feds back then for a photograph of this robot, but got a written reply of: no.


Red eyed robot...

Not to make light the situation, yet did it look like this? That would explain a lot about the feds in general...
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3742 on: June 13, 2007, 07:22 AM NHFT »
One of my kids had a radio station, (The Planet, 100.1 fm), on this morning and they were making fun of the Browns. ::)  They were making fun of the fact that they don't have electricity, totally perceiving them as "nut jobs".  It was disgusting! >:(
I sent them this message:

I was listening to your program this morning, (6/13/07), and I must say that I'm very upset over the Ed and Elaine Brown jokes.
At least they are standing up for something they believe in, perhaps your not used to people having strong convictions in this country anymore.
I am a supporter of the Browns and do not think their situation should be talked about in a jokingly manner.
I will not be tuning in to your program anymore if this is the way you choose to deal with such a sad, serious situation.
Are you that desperate for a "following" of weak minded people?
More people in this country and around the world need to do what Ed and Elaine Brown are doing!  Is it okay for a tyrannical government to stalk and attack people at their evil whim? Is it okay for innocent people to be shot at, tasered and have their private property invaded by a bunch of thugs?
 Can you honestly say you are proud of your behavior and rude comments on the show this morning?  Will you laugh if anyone get's hurt or killed over this matter?
Wake up and I hope your listeners wake up too!  It's time to have courage before it's too late because if things keep going the way they are one day you may find yourselves at the opposite end of the "supposed" law too as more of our civil rights are stripped away.
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3743 on: June 13, 2007, 07:33 AM NHFT »
Bravo, rainey!
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3744 on: June 13, 2007, 07:41 AM NHFT »
IN AM  start postiong pictures by  (THRU)  changing your AVATAR

...What the hell?

Anyways, yes, I would say the best thing to bring to the Brown's is a video camera. We all want to delay violence as long as possible, and making it known to the Feds that they're being watched is key.
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3745 on: June 13, 2007, 07:52 AM NHFT »
A thought:  How are we going to be able to ensure that people attending porcfest remain in the loop regarding events at the Browns?

What should folks attending porcfest do if a raid or other important event ocurrs during that week?

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3746 on: June 13, 2007, 07:56 AM NHFT »
I was wondering the same thing, dada.
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3747 on: June 13, 2007, 07:57 AM NHFT »
Plus, re: the robots.  This is maybe WHY Randy Weaver is heading this way, because one with a red eye was used to up at his cabin before he shot it dead, and then the Feds retaliated and shot his wife dead holding their baby in her arms on their porch.  I had written to the Feds back then for a photograph of this robot, but got a written reply of: no.


Red eyed robot...

Not to make light the situation, yet did it look like this? That would explain a lot about the feds in general...


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2.) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/11/17/DI2005111700918.html

Plus Dada and Kat: Maybe to call out the "green-eyed" robots from our side of the fence?    :kermit: to swallow up the red-eyed ones.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3748 on: June 13, 2007, 08:01 AM NHFT »
Bravo, rainey!

Thanks Kat! :)  They will probably be making fun of me tomorrow. ::)
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #3749 on: June 13, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT »
A thought:  How are we going to be able to ensure that people attending porcfest remain in the loop regarding events at the Browns?

What should folks attending porcfest do if a raid or other important event ocurrs during that week?



I have a shortwave radio that you could borrow for the week for info, it's brand new but big surprise, I can't figure out how to work it. :BangHead:
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