Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS

[JosephSHaas]

I"m heading to the concord fed courthouse this morning to demonstrate outside, they are apparently arraigning one* of the ed brown supporters there today, others later

i should be there off and on between 10:30 am and 2:30 pm then i head to the manchester protest

call me at 721 1490 if need be or if you want to give me important updates

* David, that's Robert Wolfe ...info from The http://www.unionleader.com story posted by error above, thanks to you too.

--The list (so far) is:
1. Cirino "Reno" Gonzales, 30 of Alice, Texas (charge: brought 50cal. gun to Ed's + left it there); arrested in: _________;
2. Daniel Riley, 40, Albany, N.Y., arrested in Cohoes, N.Y. [e-mail: dnrly at nycap.rr.com]
3. Jason Gerhard, 22, Brookhaven, N.Y.; arrested in: Fort Leonard, Missouri;
4. Robert Wolfe, 50 Randolph, Vt., arrested in Hartford, Vermont(*) ...

...charge: Title 18, Pt. 1, Ch. 1, Sec. 3 (thanks Richardr above) of Accessory after the fact? in what!? assisting the offender in order to HINDER or PREVENT his apprehension? HOW can being the middleman/ mailman for the Browns in PRIVATE service to and from them be illegal, when the U.S. Postal Service WRONGfully cut them off withOUT a hearing** too!? In America this is called "Free Enterprise", of which the government is supposed to support, not hinder! Isn't this against the First Amendment: Freedom of Speech and Art. 22, N.H. association too, and especially protected in N.H. by our Art. 10 Right of Revolution! against federal government goons that have gone berserk*** and are the REAL "outlaws"! The word berserk, defined as de-ranged, the Feds TRYing to maintain their range of unlawful jurisdiction, and so of course, THEY are upset at our attempt to de-range them! Ed has his "range", and these Feds are and will forever be de-ranged from it: those 110 acres in Plainfield (which Treasurer BTW to call this afternoon too, __________ (see page 363 above) to see if he deposited that Federal Check #_________with the Mascoma Bank in Lebanon that Thursday as his weekly workdays there, to visit the bank next Tuesday after my court trial @ 11:00 a.m. in Newport District Court, re: the "Wise up or Die" case) 

(*) So WHY is the arraignment in Concord, N.H. @ 2:00 p.m. this afternoon, in Courtroom "B"? re: my call a few minutes ago to there at 225-1423. Isn't this OUTside their jurisdiction?  Isn't he/Robert entitled to fight the charges in Vermont?  Like to tell the U.S. District Court judge there [in Burlington?, Vermont] that the New Hampshire General Court and Legislature offered the R.S.A. Ch. 123:1 concurrent jurisdiction to the Feds back on Flag Day, June 14th, 1883, but that the Feds declined our invitation that is REQUIRED and BEFORE they can act withIN our state by "Consent" only, per Art. I, Section 8, Clause 17, U.S. Const. !

--Also for Reno in Texas; Danny in New York; and Jason in Missouri: the "Show Me" state  see http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm for the state statutes in each of your respective states to see IF the Feds have complied there too, like they were supposed to here in New Hampshire, and which evidence, by way of the certificate from Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State proving the Federal non-filing, I'm TRYing to get into an exhibit for the Public Hearing** at the PUC: Public Utilities Commission in Concord, but have had to appeal the legal counsel's DENIAL of my due process rights (both procedural and substantive) to the N.H. Supreme Court case #2007-0509, awaiting an answer from them/ the Supremes, to the A.G.'s Motion to Dismiss and my objection, which forum would PROVE the Feds as OUT OF ORDER, and really do a number on their EXISTance of illegal and unlawful operations therefrom off their turf over at 55 Pleasant Street!

Yours truly, Joe / Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone).

P.S. See you all at the 2:00 p.m. arraignment today in Concord.  I presume that Robert will either remain silent, enter no plea, or even challenge their jurisdiction, and IF the judge does ENTER a plea of not guilty for him, then right then and there, our new Merrimack County Sheriff, Scott Hilliard from Northfield _______ ought to proceed to at LEAST ask that judge for his operating papers and see to it that my criminal complaint against McAuliffe, that I did file with the Concord Police Dept. __________ be further investigated toward this end for the TRUTH! instead we have a "cover-up" with NO answers, that I find in violation of my right to an answer by the Accountability Article 8 in our N.H. Constitution, Part First & Bill of RIGHTS, not privileges that can be revoked by the public non-servants from the master: their boss, they work for us, and get paid, and so to likewise see to it that my complaint against the governor, John H. Lynch proceed over at the State House Annex, Personnel Office __________ to revoke half of his every two-weeks paychecks UNTIL he do his Art. 41 duty! to enforce all legislative mandates, as per the "shall" word in RSA Ch. 123:1 http://www.state.nh.us

[JosephSHaas]

Action item:
Here are some folks you can call to complain about these arrests.   Don't call any emergency numbers plz.  I'm not sure any of us ever have done so over this but that was the allegation last month. ...

State Representative Matthew Houde (D)
Current District: Sullivan 01
First Elected: 11/07/2006
Birth date: 03/27/1969
28 Bean Road, Apt C
Plainfield NH 03781-5479
603 469 3149
matthewhoude-at-yahoo.com

Ed's other State Representative Carla Skinder (D,R - you can be both at same time in NH)
Current District: Sullivan 01
First Elected: 11/07/2006
465 East Road
Cornish NH 03745-4433
603 542 6065
603 543 6895
603 863 8383
e-mail: cskinder-at-vrh.org carla.skinder-at-leg.state.nh.us
....

--Thanks again David [plus KBCraig for the UNION LEADER link to post a reply there too in a few minutes].

--But that this phone # to State Rep. Houde is wrong.  It should be: (1) Home 603: 504-2744, and (2) Office* 802: 831-1241.

* His Office is as Assistant Dean of the Vermont Law School in South Royalton, Vermont 05068 (Chelsea St., PO Box 96); see http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/ns/billstatus/legdetails.asp?txten=376778

--I did just call his home and then his office leaving a detailed then summary message respectfully to TRY to make it down to the U.S. District Court in Concord, N.H. @ 2:00 p.m. this afternoon for the Robert Wolfe arraignment case # __________ that looks to be unlawful and illegal, withOUT jurisdiction as this VERMONT resident was arrested in VERMONT, and to drag him over the N.H. border, maybe the Border Patrol at: ___________ ought to be called too, to have some type of Public Hearing withIN their branch of government? I read in the newspapers that they were "assisting" the U.S. Marshal and so co-horts to their dirty deeds too?  Talk about co-conspirators! wow!

-- Joe H.

P.S. It's worthless calling State Rep. Carla Skinder.  She's a nurse who does not like to check-and-balance ahead of time, but would rather deal with the bloody aftermath. So she told me on the telephone a few months ago when I called her, BELIEVE IT OR NOT!  Maybe YOU can get her to be the public servant she is supposed to be.  She already got her $200 per 2-year term pay last January 2007 and so is like saying to everyone now: I don't give a shit, I've already gotten paid, and laughing all the way to the bank!

[planetaryjim]

Donna VanMeter writes:

"we NEED EVERYONE IN THE ALICE TEXAS AREA TO SHOW UP FOR RENO they are
planning on moving him at 6 am in the morning to take him to Corpus
Christi, PLEASE SHOW UP WITH SIGNS OF SUPPORT FOR RENO as early as 4
am outside the JIM WELLS COUNTY JAIL HOUSE IN ALICE TEXAS, we need to
bring attention to the media and let them see he is loved and valued
in this movement of truth before the media has a chance to destroy his
image in the news demonizing our PATRIOT BROTHER. let them know we
know the truth and he is someone the american truthers, freedom
fighters as well as the peacegroups stand behind wholely and fully!
thank you
YOUR SISTER IN ARMS
DONNA VANMETER"

Alice, for those of you who don't know the place, is West of Corpus
Christi, toward Laredo but not nearly so far.

I would urge all y'all who have friends in Texas to spread the word.

Regards,

Jim
http://www.hisovs.org/

[LordBaltimore]

I certainly hope getting on national tv with homemade banners peddling www.nhfree.com was worth Ed Brown's life.

Let me amend my statement above to the following.

I certainly hope getting on national tv with homemade banners peddling www.nhfree.com and Ron Paul was worth Ed Brown's life.

Ridley just left an elated audioblog on the Brown blog because the press were taking pictures and another supporter had just shown up with a Ron Paul sign.

[Banging head on hard desk.]

Ron Paul publicly denounced the Browns on national TV.  Affiliating him with these arrests is just hideous.

[Nicholas Gilman]

    As far as non-violent action, you are "preaching to the choir"
as they say occasionally.  Some of us have previous military training,
but out of personal conviction use non violent means of change.
I personally will not use violence as a means of offense, simply  because
once you commit a violent act, you have become as morally bankrupt
as the system at large.   

   Victimless crime is the root of the issue.   Maybe a few people are upset
that someone knows the truth,and  can journey to the inner cities and demand that people
stop collecting reallocated wealth and see how many of those folks,
who are multi-generational consumers with no ambition to do
meaningful work, are a "threat" when their government "benefits" are withdrawn.
Instead they point out Ed and Elaine...    


     

   

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

http://ncmilitia.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131

[CNHT]

I certainly hope getting on national tv with homemade banners peddling www.nhfree.com was worth Ed Brown's life.

Let me amend my statement above to the following.

I certainly hope getting on national tv with homemade banners peddling www.nhfree.com and Ron Paul was worth Ed Brown's life.

Ridley just left an elated audioblog on the Brown blog because the press were taking pictures and another supporter had just shown up with a Ron Paul sign.

[Banging head on hard desk.]

Ron Paul publicly denounced the Browns on national TV.  Affiliating him with these arrests is just hideous.

JUST WHICH 'SUPPORTER' DID THIS? OK I think I know who it was...<sigh> She should know better than to have done that!

I suppose, RP is for eliminating the IRS, but that doesn't mean he supports the Browns.
But as I said in another post about Huckabee, perception is the key and you watch, they will make an issue out of this.

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

I cant speak for Richardr

You can and did, and I agree 100%.

There's a second point though, that I'd like to make.  Ed is arrogant, he's gullible, and he's an asshole, but I don't want him to die, because he is not a sane man, and he hasn't been sane in many many years.  

He's backed himself into this corner before (to paraphrase, "I'll kill anyone who comes to my property to try to collect property taxes") but in the end he decided to live another day and shrug it off.  This time however, was different, because you guys provided him with support.  You pushed the insane man into a standoff to the death, by telling him that he was right, and by showing your support for his idiotic insane rantings.  Listen to Ed and Elaine speak, and you'll hear them say over and over that they're doing it for you.

Instead of facing two years in prison, he's now looking at life in prison or death.  Good job, supporters.  You must feel proud of yourselves.  

I certainly hope getting on national tv with homemade banners peddling www.nhfree.com was worth Ed Brown's life.

Most of the above where Ed's name is found, could easily be replaced with George.

[Sheep Fuzzy Wool]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TAX_EVADERS_RAID?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

[(V)]

Download Dave Ridley audio report

[DadaOrwell]

I've uploaded a video report from today's events at the Concord Federal building.  a second report will follow.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KV89c2k5Dcw

 
Turnout was 9 by the time i had to go at 2:30.   a bunch of different tv crews were there and interviewed us.  9 , 25, etc.
 didnt get a chance to put this in the video but when i left concord i had noticed 18 positive responses, 9 negative (over a 3 hr period)
 
when i got to manchester to demonstrate i ended up doing it alone bc everyone went to concord.  there i got 10 positive 6 negative....over a 90 min. period.

lots of the negative folks calmed down fast if they talked to us more than once....talking to them softly and letting them do most of the talking seems to really help. 

[Dan]

Dave, you are the man.  It looks like 0-day video releases are here to stay.

I was at wal*mart and noticed they have sub $800 hard drive video cams now, with night vision.  In camera editing is something I'd love to sit and learn with you if I get one of these 40-hour beasts.

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http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=10758.0

[JosephSHaas]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TAX_EVADERS_RAID?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

Thanks S.F.W.,

--But this AP Writer Frank Eltman of Garden City, N.Y. @ 7:54 PM earlier this evening got it wrong: Wolfe and Riley did not "pleaded not guilty" today as I was there and an eye and ear witness to the Magistrate Muirhead who technically said that he was entering a plea of NOT guilty for each* of them, that they or their court-appointed attorneys should have objected to as this N.H. Court is withOUT jurisdiction!(*)

--There was NO electronic posting on the TV screen for this 2:00 p.m. hearing that got started about 15 minutes late, first with Daniel Riley brought into the courtroom in leg irons, then escorted out, then back in again, and then after his hearing, a few minutes wait for Robert Wolfe.  Both defendants were asked if they had read the indictments, and both said: yes.  Their attorneys said that a bail hearing shall be scheduled withIN three (3) days and requested that a hearing be held, tomorrow, Friday, Sept. 14th, but that the prosecutor and/or judge said that that was not enough time to get the witnesses here to testify from Vermont, and so he scheduled the next hearings for 1:30 and 2:00 p.m. respectfully, on Monday, Sept. 17th*.

--*That might be better IF Reno (Cirino Ganzales) can assert his rights AGAINST extradition by presenting the evidence Ed has (and should have given a copy to all four defendants) of that certificate from Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State that the Feds are in violation of N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution(*).  Hopefully the judge in the U.S. District Court in WHERE? "West of Corpus Christi" tomorrow can ORDER that he will look into this procedural due process in NOT ordering that Reno be "extradited" that they like to call "removed" now, until AFTER the N.H. jurisdiction is proved in the Texas court and for Jason Gerhard in Missouri too, the "Show Me" state! And hopefully both Texas and Missouri in compliance with their statutes as over at http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm so that they, also by the governor's office, as some states require his signature too,  can say to New Hampshire to get its act together BEFORE they send anybody into such an unlawful and illegal quagmire!

Yours truly, Joe H.

[JosephSHaas]

Here's a re-type from the "Press Copy":

"UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. ROBERT WOLFE

Cr. No. 07-190-01-PB

INDICTMENT

THE GRAND JURY CHARGES:

COUNT ONE   Accessory After the Fact    18 U.S.C. Sec. 3

1. On or about January 18, 2007, the last day of a trial that started on January 9, a jury returned verdicts convicting* Edward Brown and Elaine Brown of conspiracy and a number of federal tax crimes.

2. The jury returned its verdict against Edward Brown in his absence.  After the third day of evidence, January 11, 2007, Edward Brown returned to his and Elaine Brown's joint residence in Plainfield, N.H. and never came back to court.  On January 12, 2007, a federal warrant was issued for Edward Brown's arrest based upon his failure to appear for the completion of his trial.

3.  Elaine Brown also failed to appear for what was to be the fourth day of evidence but, after a brief continuance of the proceedings, she returned for the remainder of the trial.  Whereupon she was convicted* and then released on bail pending sentencing.  Shortly thereafter, however, she was charged with violating conditions of her release pending sentencing by removing an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet and returning to her residence where Ed Brown remained.  A federal warrant was issued for her arrest.

4. On April 24, 2007, Edward Brown and Elaine Brown were each sentenced to sixty-three (63) months in prison.  Neither Edward Brown nor Elaine Brown appeared for the sentencing proceeding and the sentences against them were imposed in their absence.

5. While the Browns have been fugitives, officers of the United States Marshals Service have made efforts to arrest them.  During the same period of time, the Browns have remained inside the boundaries of the property on which their home is located, and they have publiclly stated their intention to forcibly resist any effort to arrest them.

6. Beginning at a date uncertain but in or about January 2007 and continuing through to the date of this Indictment, in the District of New Hampshire and elsewhere, the defendant

ROBERT WOLFFE,

knowing that offenses against the United States has been committed by Edward Brown and Elaine Brown, to wit: conspiracy and a number of federal tax crimes, received, relieved, comforted and assisted Edward Brown and Elaine Brown in order to hinder and prevent their apprehension and punishment, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3.

7. Robert Wolffe has received, relieved, comforted and assisted Edward Brown and Elaine Brown in order to hinder and prevent their apprehension and punishment in that he has aided them and provided to them personal and material support, including but not limited to the following:

a. providing a 1992 Chevrolet Caprice to the Browns which has been used by other supporters of the Browns to run errands and gather supplies for the Browns;

b. conducting counter-surveillance of the Deputy U.S. Marshals;

c. providing armed security for the Browns;

d. making his residence available as a point of trans-shipment for supplies to the Browns, including food, for delivery to the Browns'

-- In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3.

September 12, 2007      TRUE BILL  /s/ Grand Jury Foreperson

Thomas P. Colantuono
United States Attorney

By: /s/ Arnold H. Huftalen
Assistant United States Attorney

By: /s/ Robert M. Kinsella
Assistant United States Attorney

Page 4 of 4"

* typist note to compare this "convicted" BEFORE sentencing a misnomer (in # 1 + 3 above) as spelled out in my Reply #____ above citing F. Tupper Saussy, R.I.P. http://www.tuppersaussy.com