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Author Topic: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS  (Read 431116 times)

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5475 on: September 14, 2007, 08:55 AM NHFT »
I think the hearings for bail were at 2:00 on Monday.
:privateeyes: The family that fights for freedom together, stays together.  (Except for brief stints in in jail :) )
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5476 on: September 14, 2007, 09:16 AM NHFT »

(1)... It was heartbreaking to see the Wolfe family torn apart by government workers attempting to extract their paychecks from Ed and Elaine Brown. Mrs. Wolfe was clearly very distraught about the government/mafia kidnapping of her husband.

(2) Danny Riley, who was dragged back to New Hampshire from New York, appeared to have no one there to comfort him except for some of the nine people who showed up to protest the arrests. ....



Does anybody here have the telephone number:

1. in Randolph, Vermont (802) __________ for Mrs. Wolffe, or any other family member? +/or

2. in Albany, New York (___) __________ for the relatives of Daniel Riley?

The reason I ask is that somebody yesterday told me that one or both of them were being shipped to the Federal Jail Cell over in Dover at the Strafford County Jail.  When I say "Federal Jail Cell" that means the State of New Hampshire is paid $_____ per day to reimburse the state from the Feds, and so while in New Hampshire custody, a thought came to mind:  WHY not have Mrs. Wolfe, if she can't get to see her husband, file a "next-best-friend" Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus with the Strafford County Court in accordance with Article 91, Part 2 of the N.H. Constitution? See http://nh.gov/constitution/constitution.html and http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_9_2s7.html The charges against the Feds could be their lack of jurisdiction to re-take their federal prisoner back into their possession and for the county judge there to HALT such illegal and unlawful acts by the U.S. Marshals Service! Illegal and unlawful in that the Feds are in non-compliance with N.H. RSA Ch. 123:1 from 1-8-17 U.S. Constitution.  A certified copy from Bill Gardner's Office of Secretary of State could be presented into evidence at a hearing sometime Monday MORNING to put a "monkey wrench" into the Feds' attempt for further hearings in the illegal and unlawful federal court in Concord on Monday AFTERNOON.

If anybody from the Wolffe +/or Riley families would like to meet with me at the typewriter in the Concord Public Library on Green Street (same street that intersects with Pleasant Street for the Federal Courthouse) at say 1:00 p.m. this afternoon to get a service copy over to the U.S. Attorney by 1:30 p. m. with an about one hour ride over to Dover to get there by 2:30 p.m., with 1.5 hours to spare, would you please call me at my cell phone # 603: 848-6059.  I will be up at the N.H. Supreme Court working on my own case in the Library there.

Yours truly, Joe / Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, Tel. 603: 848-6059 (cell phone).

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A first draft could be sometime like: heading: State of New Hampshire, Stafford County - - Superior Court, ____________ v. Superintendant ____________ of the ___________ County Jail, Docket #___________. Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus.

Now comes the Petitioner, _______________, the next-best-friend of ______________, a Federal prisoner situated at the __________ County Jail under an Indictment from the Federal Grand Jury in Concord, N.H. Docket No. 07-cr-_________ but which Federal authorities operating within said building there at 55 Pleasant Street, Concord, are withOUT proper jurisdiction, the federal government having FAILed to comply with N.H. R.S.A. Ch. 123:1 from Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the New Hampshire Constitution.  Proof of such in the attached copy of the Certificate from the N.H. Office Secretary of State. "Consent" was offered to the Feds on June 14th (Flag Day), 1883, but which they declined to accept, and so have NO jurisdiction withIN the borders of this state, and that until they comply with the law, then to immediately release ____________ as in illegal and unlawful custody.

Respectfully submitted, - - - - - - - - -

Signed in person before me, _______________________, a N.H. Notary Public, or Justice of the Peace, at ____________, (town or city, ______________ County, State of New Hampshire @ __:__ o'clock p.m.

Certificate of Service: 1.) At __:__ o'clock p.m. a copy of this Petition was delivered to the receptionist at the U.S. Attorney's Office in Concord, N.H. __________ to please re-copy and file with the U.S. District Court for the reason to alert the judge as to WHY the defendant may not show up in court next Monday afternoon at the __:_ p.m. appointed time. And 2.) (a) At __:__ o'clock p.m. a copy of this Petition was delivered to ______________, the Superintendant of the ___________County Jail; and (b) at __:__ o'clock p.m. another copy of this Petition was delivered to the ___________ County Attorney; and (c) at __:____o'clock p.m. another copy of this Petition was delivered to The _________ County Commissioners.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5477 on: September 14, 2007, 10:31 AM NHFT »
I've left a message with Shaun Kranish two days in a row with no return. He may be in transit. Has anyone seen or talked to him?

Look, I'm talking to myself.

Shaun just called. He's OK.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5478 on: September 14, 2007, 10:59 AM NHFT »
Alex Jones interviewed Ed and Elaine yesterday.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8862720665799233765&hl=en

Those of you planning on going to concert tomorrow, please take care.  Ed makes it clear that he has placed devices / traps in the woods.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5479 on: September 14, 2007, 01:44 PM NHFT »
This was posted on another internet forum. 

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Bob Wolffe:
Investigator's Affidavit
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/wolffe1a.pdf
Indictment
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/wolffe3.pdf

Reno Gonzalez:
Investigator's Affidavit
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez1a.pdf
Indictment
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gonzalez3.pdf

Danny Riley:
Investigator's Affidavit
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/riley1a.pdf
Indictment
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/riley4.pdf

Jason Gerhard:
Indictment
http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/gerhard1.pdf

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5480 on: September 14, 2007, 03:04 PM NHFT »
Hello Everyone,

I'm Danny's Brother.  I wanted to thank everyone for coming out and showing support for Danny at the Concord court house!  It means so much to Danny!

I have spoken with Danny via phone from the Dover jail and he is doing fine considering the circumstances.  The bail hearing is currently scheduled for Monday at 2pm and we will be traveling over to Concord for this.  I'm in the process of building Danny's legal defense team and we are currently discussing the possibility of setting up a legal defense fund so that we will be able to put together an effective team to fight these charges.

I will keep the community updated via this board as the legal effort proceeds.

Again, thank you all so very much for all your support!

best regards,
Bill Riley


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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5481 on: September 14, 2007, 03:37 PM NHFT »
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Investigator's Affidavit



Andre LaBier
219 Rossier Road
Montgomery Center, VT 05471


Age: 55
Religion: Roman Catholic
Personal email: alabier@yahoo.com

Chief Inspector, Investigative Services Division, U.S. Marshals Service

LaBier has worked with the Marshals Service for 22 years, traveling all over the country to chase down ... mostly drug dealers.

When not out chasing fugitives, LaBier serves as a town selectman in Montgomery. He is also a member of the Hazen's Notch Association, a local conservation group. He owns a wooded 43 acre parcel in this area.

LaBier also considers himself an amateur automobile mechanic and toys with older cars in his spare time. He also likes car audio systems and has trouble tolerating the poor excuses for stereos auto manufacturers put in at the factory.

LaBier has also lived in the Albany, N.Y., area, and may have relatives or friends there. LaBier should be considered armed and dangerous and should not be approached under any circumstances.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5482 on: September 14, 2007, 03:49 PM NHFT »
Did you read the investigator report on Dan Riley? For a guy who bragged so many times about how tough he was with the federal agents who arrested him in June, he sure spilled a whole lot of information.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5483 on: September 14, 2007, 04:01 PM NHFT »
Did you read the investigator report on Dan Riley? For a guy who bragged so many times about how tough he was with the federal agents who arrested him in June, he sure spilled a whole lot of information.

Yes, that he did. And much of it was used to get the other indictments. This is unfortunate, but it's the way any good agency gets information out of people: through lying, harassment, intimidation, and outright threats. Maybe even torture if they can get away with it. This sort of stuff is difficult for almost anyone to resist, and even if you think you're prepared for it, you probably aren't.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5484 on: September 14, 2007, 04:17 PM NHFT »
Now that Riley is facing a very real prison sentence of 5 years min to 21 years max, one can only imagine what information he's willing to trade. 

That young kid Jason is looking at a minimum of life in prison if convicted on all counts.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 04:20 PM NHFT by richardr »

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5485 on: September 14, 2007, 04:28 PM NHFT »
Now that Riley is facing a very real prison sentence of 5 years min to 21 years max, one can only imagine what information he's willing to trade. 

That young kid Jason is looking at a minimum of life in prison if convicted on all counts.

Lordy May! For What?!

For eating BBQ with them and walking their dog?

This is getting really scary.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5486 on: September 14, 2007, 04:41 PM NHFT »
Lordy May! For What?!

For eating BBQ with them and walking their dog?

This is getting really scary.

Purchasing a bunch of rifles for Ed at local New Hampshire gun dealers and playing at being an armed security for the Browns.  AP said they found a pipe bomb and grenade in his room at his mom's home and the indictment I linked to above doesn't even include those items.


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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5487 on: September 14, 2007, 04:46 PM NHFT »
I spent some time this afternoon reading through the indictments and reports I linked to above.  While this will likely irritate the moderators who can't be bothered by the real world, here's a summary.

Bob Wolffe, the Constitution Ranger guy from Vermont, was charged with one count of "Accessory after the Fact."  The minimum sentence is no prison, and the maximum sentence is 5 years in prison if convicted on all counts.  To satify the requirements of being an accessory after the fact, he was accused of

1) providing a car to the Browns so supporters could run errands
2) conducting counter-surveillance of the marshals
3) providing armed security at the home
4) acting as a mail drop / courier when their mail was stopped

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5488 on: September 14, 2007, 04:56 PM NHFT »
Danny Riley, the elecrtician who became famous for walking the dog, pretty much admitted to everything plus a whole lot more, when he was questioned in June.  He was indicted on four counts: 1) Accessory after the fact (same as Wolffe), 2) Conspiracy to prevent US agents from arresting the Browns, 3) Conspiracy to commit offenses against the US, and 4) Carrying and possessing a firearm in connection with a crime of violence. The minimum sentence is 5 years, and the max is 21 years in prison.

As proof of these charges, the indictment claims he:

1) lived with the Browns temporarily
2) huffed and puffed all over the internet, tv, and radio about providing armed resistance against anyone who came to arrest the Browns
3) purchased a Serbu .50 cal rifle from a local New Hampshire dealer
4) moved a bunch of fire extinguishers from Elaine's office to the home (I really get why this is evidence)
5) wired the property with motion sensors
6) brought a shotgun to the house

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #5489 on: September 14, 2007, 04:58 PM NHFT »
I did one of those things yesterday! HOLY SHIT! I'm in BIG TROUBLE NOW!!! :o ::)