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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8235 on: January 16, 2009, 11:05 AM NHFT »
Diane: Progress Report Requested.

1.) Here's the re-type of my 1-page letter

"To: The United States District Court
Attention: Diane Churas, Court Reporter
The Warren B. Rudman Building
53 Pleasant Street
Concord, New Hampshire 03301
603: ___________________

Re: transcript Excerpt of the statement by Daniel-John: Riley to a violation of Title 18 U.S. Code Section 3232 by THE Court itself! Presiding IN-Justice Geo. Z. Singal of Portland, Maine in Case of U.S.A. v. RILEY, et al #07-cr-189

Dear Diane:

--Enclosed is the $7.30 you asked that I pay for this, thank you very much.  My 'legal tender' being these Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) in the amounts of: 5 + 1 +1 for Region 1A in Boston in their 'System' that I found out about by the Oct. 31st '08 letter (copy attached hereto) from the Deputy Director of the United States Mint are technically FIAT currency that I despise! as there is NO contract between the Fed and the Feds as required by The Federal Reserve Act, Section 16 for HOW to monetize these notes being the recording of the Serial Numbers with the required deposit of gold bullion to sell of should there not be enough silver to make the 'dollar's as defined by The Coinage Act of 1792, which section 20 you are required to keep your accounts in this quality of coin, and so I ask you to please report back to me of just HOW you convert or at least TRY to convert these notes [and debased coins] into the dollars they promise to exchange by Title 12 U.S. Code Section 411.  In other words to 'Follow the Money' in this case 'To follow the notes' [and debased coins] as they have yet to be monetized!

Yours truly, - - - - - - - - - - Joseph S. Haas, P.O. Box 3842, Concord, N.H. 03302, 603: 848-6059 (cell phone) JosephSHaas at hotmail dot com

Friday, November 21st, 2008
@ 4:15 o'clock p.m."

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Note: the quarter dollar was a 25-cent piece of 1967
and the nickel (5-cent piece) as of 2005.

footnote #2: Diane M. Churas, CSR, CRR Phone: (603) 225-1442
e-mail address: diane_churas at nhd.courts dot gov
excerpt of sentencing, 10/28/08
AO44 (Rev. 11/07) INVOICE NO: 20080110
DATE ORDERED: 10-31-2008 DATE DELIVERED: 11-14-2008
2 PAGES @ 3.65 = 7.30

2.) And here's a re-type of some of that page:

"...And I'd also like to say that the unlawful venue - - I've never seen a case be brought in two different states in two different venues in violation - - you are up there today reading statutes, 18 USC this and naming them off when that lady was on the stand, but yet when I name the statute 18 USC 3232 that tells that all proceedings must be held within the district of the alleged offense, but yet you take me to Maine.  As I read that statute, it's now frivolous. So you pick and choose what statute you want to abide by.  You're biased.  You're partial.  You don't care about justice.  All you care about is getting a conviction on the defendant -- ...." (lines #3-15 of 25).

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8236 on: January 16, 2009, 11:52 AM NHFT »
  here you go...

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8237 on: January 16, 2009, 01:31 PM NHFT »
Does anyone else find it ironic that we have Ed Brown behind bars and yet another guy who didn't pay his taxes (Timothy Geithner) is rewarded to run the treasury department of the US?
Writing to Washington won't help; he's dead!

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8238 on: January 16, 2009, 03:26 PM NHFT »
Does anyone else find it ironic that we have Ed Brown behind bars and yet another guy who didn't pay his taxes (Timothy Geithner) is rewarded to run the treasury department of the US?


Hey If the Fed boys, as in the "System" in New York didn't care, about him not volunteering, that shows you he knows something, right? As in it is voluntary, and that Obama will pardon all IRS victims!

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2009/01/15/barack-obama-is-paying-the-price-for-the-timothy-geithner-failure-to-pay-taxes.htm

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8239 on: January 16, 2009, 03:34 PM NHFT »
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« Reply #8240 on: January 16, 2009, 04:13 PM NHFT »
Great website or network whatever it's called, it looks really good. 

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8241 on: January 16, 2009, 08:20 PM NHFT »

   

07:52 AM EST on Friday, January 16, 2009

By Karen Lee Ziner

Journal Staff Writer

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement yesterday issued a report faulting staff at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility for denying medical care and legal access to a Wyatt detainee who died in custody last August, and for using force against him in violation of facility policy.
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Extra: A 33-page report on ICE's Wyatt probe

ICE simultaneously canceled its contract to house detainees at Wyatt.

The report followed a months-long investigation into the death of Hiu Lui “Jason” Ng, a 33-year-old computer engineer from New York, of complications from advanced cancer. Ng also had a fractured spine. His lawyers have alleged that Ng’s constant pleas for medical help were ignored, and that Wyatt guards accused him of faking his illness.

Kelly A. Nantel, ICE press secretary in Washington, said, “We have no intention of putting anybody into Wyatt” from this point on, and that the agreement will officially terminate 60 days from today. Last month, ICE abruptly removed all 153 of its detainees from the Central Falls prison, as investigators arrived from Washington. The agency said it did so as a precautionary move.

The ICE Office of Professional Responsibility’s investigation “revealed a consistent lack of communication regarding Mr. Ng’s health-care needs between medical and security personnel at Wyatt,” an ICE statement said. And, it found “instances of non-compliance by Wyatt contract personnel” with ICE national detention standards “and multiple failures to adhere to the facility’s rules and policies.”

Last week, Wyatt announced that disciplinary action had been meted out against seven staff members ranging from reprimands to termination. The actions resulted from a separate, internal investigation at Wyatt that also found no Wyatt staff members were to blame “for the cause of Ng’s death,” which was from advanced liver cancer.

The ICE report began last Aug. 19, and involved interviews with 158 individuals at three detention facilities — in Vermont, Massachusetts and at Wyatt — where Ng had been held, as well as reviews of medical records, detainee files, facility policies and reports, video surveillance tapes and internal correspondence. Its findings are against the Wyatt facility.

It documents Ng’s deteriorating health in the 25 days he spent at Wyatt before he died on Aug. 6: first an all-over skin rash, then back pain that grew so acute it left him screaming and, eventually, unable to stand or walk. Ng also began to urinate and defecate on himself.

Numerous times throughout Ng’s stay at Wyatt, the report states, guards and medical staff reported Ng’s behavior was “non-compliant” and stated that he “refused” medications, visits with his lawyers and medical tests, when he was physically unable to comply with orders to stand or walk.

The report states that the use of force violations occurred on July 30 — the day Ng was transported from Wyatt to the ICE Detention and Removal Office in Hartford. It focuses on a videotape of that transport made by a hand-held camcorder, and on an unnamed captain (names are redacted in the report) who supervised that transport.

According to the report, “The camera was shut off and on a total of 13 times. The breaks in taping range from a few seconds to a few minutes.” In an affidavit, Warden Wayne Salisbury commented that the videotaping stopped after a “wink of the eye” from a captain.

“As is made clear from the videotape and reports of the July 30 incident, Wyatt officials took Mr. Ng by his upper extremities and dragged him from his cell … face forward, allowing his feet to drag on the ground.” It noted that Ng “continued to scream as he was being carried” into a waiting van.

Upon his return, according to the report, the tape shows Ng “being carried stomach-down by four WDF guards. One guard is holding each arm and leg. Mr. Ng has restraints on his hands and feet. The WDF guards place Mr. Ng on his bed face-down …”

A summary of an Aug.t 5 incident report that was prepared by an unnamed major and an associate warden cites numerous findings against the unnamed captain in charge of overseeing Ng’s move to and from Wyatt that day.

The findings, in part:

•Captain “failed to exercise good judgment in violating established policy” by directing and signaling the video operator “to turn off the video camera no less than 9 times.”

•Captain failed to utilize proper transport options (wheelchair and gurney), instead forcibly carrying and dragging Mr. Ng from the Health Services Unit to Receiving and Discharge.

•Captain exhibited conduct unbecoming a senior officer by telling Mr. Ng to stop whining and by calling him a “(expletive) idiot.”

•Captain’s lack of judgment and failure to adhere to established policy and procedures “subjected the facility to federal and civil lawsuits.”

Executive director Steven Brown of the Rhode Island Affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union called the report “a damning indictment of the Wyatt facility.” The ACLU is representing the Ng family in a planned civil suit.

“It documents a pattern of cruel, degrading and inhumane punishment inflicted on Mr. Ng. It also is very clear that by occurring at so many levels, this was not just a matter of a few bad apples,” said Brown. “There was — and possibly remains — a systemic problem at the facility in terms of the proper and humane treatment of detainees.”

Brown also said the report “cannot absolve ICE of its responsibility for the tragedy that happened. It shouldn’t take somebody’s death to finally prompt action on what is a serious and pervasive problem at a facility that ICE has ultimate responsibility for.”

Dante Bellini, Wyatt spokesman, said, “We are disappointed” with ICE’s decision to terminate the contract, and that officials will work to persuade the federal agency to reverse its decision.

“We maintain that we had nothing to do with the detainee’s death,” Bellini said. “As we indicated in our previous statement, we acknowledge the violations of policy and procedures by some staff.”

Bellini said that Wyatt has had a stellar record in handling prisoners since the facility opened 15 years ago. During that time, Wyatt handled 16,000 detainees, 2 of whom died, including Ng. The other detainee committed suicide several years ago, he said.

Central Falls Mayor Charles D. Moreau said that he was not surprised to learn of ICE’s decision to cancel the contract, and he remains angry with the way corrections officers and staff handled Ng’s care. But Moreau said he’s certain ICE will resume housing detainees this year. “It’s going to happen,” Moreau said. “It has to happen financially for the city.”

He said that he has replaced three members on the Central Falls Detention Facility Corporation board, and that the board will ensure that prisoners are handled properly in the future. The board will also press ICE to resume the contract, he said.

Jack McConnell, volunteer attorney for the RI ACLU, said, “ICE has continued its incredible insensitivity to immigrant detainees and, in particular, Jason Ng’s family by releasing its report on his death without notifying the family before doing so. It is consistent with the insensitivity they showed Jason during his lifetime and the thousand of other immigrant detainees.”

—With reports from W. Zachary MalinowskiKey failings

?According to an investigation by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, officers at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility:

•“Constructively denied [Hiu Lui Ng] access to a medical appointment” by not allowing him the proper use of a wheelchair.

•Denied Ng access to legal counsel by not allowing him proper use of a wheelchair.

•Violated the agency’s use-of-force policies.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8242 on: January 17, 2009, 12:17 PM NHFT »

07:52 AM EST on Friday, January 16, 2009

By Karen Lee Ziner

Journal Staff Writer

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement yesterday issued a report faulting staff at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility for denying medical care* and legal access** to a Wyatt detainee who died in custody last August, and for using force against him in violation of facility policy.
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Extra: A 33-page report on ICE's Wyatt probe

ICE simultaneously canceled its contract to house detainees at Wyatt.

The report followed a months-long investigation into the death of Hiu Lui “Jason” Ng, a 33-year-old computer engineer from New York, ...His lawyers have alleged that Ng’s constant pleas for medical help* were ignored, and that Wyatt guards accused him of faking his illness...

The ICE report began last Aug. 19, and involved interviews with 158 individuals at three detention facilities — in Vermont, Massachusetts and at Wyatt — where Ng had been held, as well as reviews of medical records, detainee files, facility policies and reports, video surveillance tapes*** and internal correspondence. Its findings are against the Wyatt facility.

It documents Ng’s deteriorating health in the 25 days he spent at Wyatt before he died on Aug. 6:...

Numerous times throughout Ng’s stay at Wyatt, the report states, guards and medical staff reported Ng’s behavior was “non-compliant” and stated that he “refused” medications*, visits with his lawyers** and medical tests, when he was physically unable to comply with orders to stand or walk.

The report states that the use of force violations occurred on July 30 — the day Ng was transported from Wyatt to the ICE Detention and Removal Office in Hartford. It focuses on a videotape of that transport made by a hand-held camcorder, and on an unnamed captain (names are redacted in the report) who supervised that transport.

According to the report, “The camera was shut off and on a total of 13 times.*** The breaks in taping range from a few seconds to a few minutes.” In an affidavit, Warden Wayne Salisbury commented that the videotaping stopped after a “wink of the eye” from a captain...

The findings, in part:

•Captain “failed to exercise good judgment in violating established policy” by directing and signaling the video operator “to turn off the video camera no less than 9 times.”*** ...

•Captain exhibited conduct unbecoming a senior officer by telling Mr. Ng to stop whining and by calling him a “(expletive) idiot.”

•Captain’s lack of judgment and failure to adhere to established policy and procedures “subjected the facility to federal and civil lawsuits.”

Executive director Steven Brown of the Rhode Island Affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union called the report “a damning indictment of the Wyatt facility.” The ACLU is representing the Ng family in a planned civil suit.

“It documents a pattern of cruel, degrading and inhumane punishment inflicted on Mr. Ng. It also is very clear that by occurring at so many levels, this was not just a matter of a few bad apples,” said Brown. “There was — and possibly remains — a systemic**** problem at the facility in terms of the proper and humane treatment of detainees.” ...

Dante Bellini, Wyatt spokesman, said, “We are disappointed” with ICE’s decision to terminate the contract, and that officials will work to persuade**** the federal agency to reverse its decision...

Bellini said that Wyatt has had a stellar record in handling prisoners since the facility opened 15 years ago...
 
Central Falls Mayor Charles D. Moreau said that he was not surprised to learn of ICE’s decision to cancel the contract, ... But Moreau said he’s certain ICE will resume housing detainees this year. “It’s going to happen,” Moreau said. “It has to happen financially for the city.”

He said that he has replaced three members on the Central Falls Detention Facility Corporation board, and that the board will ensure that prisoners are handled properly in the future. The board will also press ICE to resume the contract, he said.

Jack McConnell, volunteer attorney for the RI ACLU, said, “ICE has continued its incredible insensitivity to immigrant detainees and, in particular, Jason Ng’s family by releasing its report on his death without notifying the family before doing so. It is consistent with the insensitivity they showed Jason during his lifetime and the thousand of other immigrant detainees.”

—With reports from W. Zachary MalinowskiKey ...According to an investigation by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, officers at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility:

•“Constructively denied [Hiu Lui Ng] access to a medical appointment”* by not allowing him the proper use of a wheelchair.

•Denied Ng access to legal counsel** by not allowing him proper use of a wheelchair...

kziner@projo.com



* = for the medical, and ** for the legal. 

So in other words, they gave him the "Men of Honor" test; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203019/ for this Year 2000 movie on FX-TV 12/30/08 that he had to walk 12 steps (like the actor Cuba Gooding, Jr. had to do in his character as Chief Carl Brashear, of to walk twelve steps in that new Navy Frogman suit after he had lost a leg) toward the wheelchair to see if he really needed it to go to meds and his lawyer.

*** Why the "no less than 9 times" and before that of "on a total of 13 times" the Captain _______ would signal the video operator ___________ (names redacted) "to turn off the video camera" for "after 'a wink of the eye' from a captain".

Maybe the ACLU can investigate more "winks" as from the Police Chief Gordon Gillins to the Plainfield, N.H. Selectmen as caught on video tape, in Ed's case of where Bernie questioned them about this Art. 12 "protection" racket! to compare these winks to some systematic**** procedure taught to them by The Persuaders?  >:D Or should I say, "The Invaders"  ;D "A Quinn Martin Production"
with that mutated fourth finger and their discs that bring on a cerebral hemorrhage; see also the first "Invaders From Mars" movie.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8243 on: January 17, 2009, 12:36 PM NHFT »
here is another story that ran in todays providence journal about the Ng case at the wyatt detention center. i find it hard to believe the feds would not only pull every prisoner they have out of there, but also cancel the contract and not send any more prisoners there at all, if they didnt feel there were some VERY VERY SERIOUS issues with that facility!
  i should say that this facility is approximately 2 minutes away from my house and the people that work there are the people in MY neighborhood. i even know several people that worked/work there, and they are good people (as far as i know). it bothers me a lot to know that people being warehoused only minutes from me may be getting mistreated as i sit here now typing this. elaine said when she was housed there, there was a lack of everything, including care.
 
     



Federal detention center in R.I. a target of probe over detainee’s death

01:00 AM EST on Saturday, January 17, 2009

By W. Zachary Malinowski

Journal Staff Writer

PROVIDENCE — The federal Department of Justice will determine whether staff at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility in Central Falls will be prosecuted on any criminal charges for their handling of an immigrant detainee who died in the jail’s custody last summer.

Tom Connell, spokesman for Robert Clark Corrente, the U.S. Attorney for Rhode Island, said that his office will not handle the investigation because it wants to avoid any potential conflicts of interest. Instead, he said the investigation will be handled by the office of Paula D. Silsby, U.S. Attorney for the District of Maine.

A spokeswoman for Silsby did not return a call yesterday.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which had placed Hiu Lui “Jason” Ng, 33, a computer engineer from New York at Wyatt, Thursday issued a report that said Wyatt staff last summer denied him medical care and access to legal representation and used force against him, in violation of Wyatt policy. Because of that, ICE canceled its contract to place detainees at Wyatt.

Kelly A. Nantel, ICE press secretary in Washington, said yesterday that her agency’s investigators don’t believe that any crimes were committed, but she conceded that federal prosecutors may disagree.

“Our investigators did not find anything that would be cause for criminal prosecution,” she said. “But we want [federal prosecutors] to take a look at it.”

Meanwhile, Representatives James Langevin and Patrick Kennedy, both Democrats, issued statements late yesterday condemning the treatment of Ng during his brief stay at Wyatt. Both congressmen called for national immigration reform and Kennedy urged the Central Falls Detention Facility Corporation board, the municipal entity that has Wyatt oversight, “to immediately replace the company overseeing prison management.”

“I will also call on my congressional colleagues in the House to launch a full investigation into abuse and mismanagement of federal immigration detention centers across the nation so that we can ensure that this inhumane treatment that happened in our own backyard is not widespread and that we may finally begin to see real reform,” Kennedy said.

Senators Jack Reed and Sheldon Whitehouse said in a joint statement: “The abuse and irresponsibility detailed in this report is shocking.

“Serious steps must be taken to hold individuals accountable, provide stronger oversight of the detention center, and ensure that this type of situation never happens again. We know the Mayor [Charles D. Moreau] is taking steps to reform and improve conditions at the facility so it meets ICE national detention standards and can safely be reopened for federal detainees. We are reaching out to officials at the Department of Homeland Security to discuss the next steps.”

Last month, ICE removed 153 detainees and launched its investigation into Ng’s death. Ng, who had a fractured spine, died in early August of complications from advanced cancer. His lawyers claim that Ng’s pleas for help were ignored, and that Wyatt guards accused him of “whining” and faking his illness.

Ng, a Chinese national, entered the United States in February 1992 on a one-year authorization and was being held at Wyatt because he faced deportation for overstaying his authorized period.

The violations cited in the ICE report occurred on July 30, the day Ng was transported from Wyatt to the ICE Detention and Removal Office in Hartford, Conn.

The transfer of Ng from the jail’s sally port to a waiting bus was captured on videotape. The report states that Wyatt staff grabbed Ng by his upper extremities and “dragged him from his cell … face forward, allowing his feet to drag on the ground.” The report also states the videotape recorder, under the direction of a captain, was shut off and on 13 times for anywhere “from a few seconds to a few minutes.”

Dante Bellini, Wyatt’s spokesman, emphasized yesterday that the jail’s Professional Standards Unit conducted its own internal investigation that called for disciplinary action against several guards and nurses weeks before ICE issued its report.

“We didn’t do this in response to what ICE did,” Bellini said. “We did it before ICE did.”

In a letter, dated Dec. 23, Anthony Ventetuolo Jr., Wyatt’s executive director, wrote Warden Wayne Salisbury that he was outraged with the way Ng was treated on July 29 and July 30.

“When reviewed in total, the procedures utilized under the direction of one of our senior staff, as well as the lack of empathy and sound judgment displayed by some of our nursing staff, are indefensible, alarming, and totally opposed to the high operational standards we have demanded for the past fifteen years of our existence.”

Ventetuolo, in the letter, ordered disciplinary action against seven members of the staff — the termination of the captain and two nurses, as well as letters of reprimand against a third nurse and three corrections officers. None of the people have been publicly identified.

The captain, who has been terminated, is the same one who forcibly carried and dragged Ng in the videotape.

Bellini and Central Falls Mayor Moreau said that they will continue to work with the congressional delegation to get immigrant detainees returned to the jail. Without them, the facility is losing $100,000 a week, and as a result, the city will get less money. Last year, the city received more than $500,000 from the jail.

As of yesterday, there were about 500 prisoners at Wyatt.

“We have the utmost faith in our congressional delegation that they will appeal to ICE, support our facility, our people and the City of Central Falls,” Bellini said. He added that jail officials have a contingency plan in place that could lead to layoffs as early as next week.

As of Dec. 31, there were 204 employees.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8244 on: January 17, 2009, 01:26 PM NHFT »
some comments on the above article:
   "Both congressmen called for national immigration reform and Kennedy urged the Central Falls Detention Facility Corporation board, the municipal entity that has Wyatt oversight, “to immediately replace the company overseeing prison management.”

   there is some very weird history to the wyatt facility. the current warden used to work for the previous owners of the wyatt (it is a private jail) there was some kind of issue with the warden working against the company he was working for (i think there was a sale pending or something, maybe to the city, im not quite sure though) and he was fired. then when a new company bought the facility he was brought back to run it again.

"Serious steps must be taken to hold individuals accountable, provide stronger oversight of the detention center, and ensure that this type of situation never happens again. We know the Mayor [Charles D. Moreau] is taking steps to reform and improve conditions at the facility so it meets ICE national detention standards and can safely be reopened for federal detainees. We are reaching out to officials at the Department of Homeland Security to discuss the next steps.”

"As of yesterday, there were about 500 prisoners at Wyatt."

    so if the facility isnt safe enough for federal ICE detainees then is it safe enough for the other 500 prisoners that are still there?

"His lawyers claim that Ng’s pleas for help were ignored, and that Wyatt guards accused him of “whining” and faking his illness."

   this is the same thing ed claims he was told while there, "stop whinning" , when he complained about the fumes.

“We didn’t do this in response to what ICE did,” Bellini said. “We did it before ICE did.”

    too little too late. Mr Ng is dead, maybe the investigation should have taken place before he died, or better yet it would have more credibility (the internal investigation that is) if it hadn't been started as a result of fear there was going to be a federal investigation of the facility. it would be nice if we could all "internally investigate" ourselves as soon as we thought the feds were going to do it.....


"Bellini and Central Falls Mayor Moreau said that they will continue to work with the congressional delegation to get immigrant detainees returned to the jail. Without them, the facility is losing $100,000 a week, and as a result, the city will get less money. Last year, the city received more than $500,000 from the jail....."

“We have the utmost faith in our congressional delegation that they will appeal to ICE, support our facility, our people and the City of Central Falls,” Bellini said......."

    in other words we NEED this facility back open NO MATTER WHAT or we are broke! and trust me the city of central falls is broke!
this state was so much better off without the hell hole known as THE WYATT.....


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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8245 on: January 17, 2009, 01:52 PM NHFT »
heres another interesting one. the providence journal has been repeatedly criticized for its reporting of stories. the new york times included this bit in it's story about the wyatt.

"The 33-page investigation report also found that the guards and medical staff, acting on orders of the warden, violated the jail’s policy on the use of force when Mr. Ng was dragged to a van for a trip to Hartford, where his lawyers say he was pressured to withdraw all his appeals and accept deportation."

why doesnt the projo's story mention that little bit about them acting "on orders from the warden"???? and why hasn't he been fired yet?! i have a feeling this story is far from over.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/16/us/16detain.html?scp=1&sq=wyatt&st=cse
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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8246 on: January 17, 2009, 02:41 PM NHFT »

>>But hey, I don't even worry about offending you with this post because you don't go back and read the answers anyway.  ::)  >>

Kat how could I be offended by you?  You went to jail in my defense.

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8247 on: January 17, 2009, 02:56 PM NHFT »
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/us/27detain.html?scp=3&sq=wyatt%20detention&st=cse

heres a good article on the wyatt and the city of central falls r.i. some quotes:

"Here, a specially created municipal corporation built the jail in the early 1990s to hold federal inmates, and last year more than doubled its size. As the City Council president, William Benson Jr., put it, “The more inmates they have, the more money we get.”

"Anthony Ventetuolo Jr., one of Wyatt’s developers and now the jail’s chief executive, said that who the inmates were made no difference to the jail, which was run like a business, under strict standards. “I’m not interested in getting involved in the politics of immigration,” he said. “All we do is detain people that our clients tell us to detain.”

"For a time it imported murderers and rapists by the busload from North Carolina’s crowded prisons. When city residents objected, they learned that Central Falls had no control over who was housed at Wyatt and would get no money unless it was full."

"the municipal corporation took full control in August 2007. The budget it approved late that year included $6,000 a month for a Washington lobbyist to seek more detainees at higher rates."
"A 'pessimist' has been described as one who sees things as they are, rather than how he'd like them to be."

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8248 on: January 17, 2009, 02:58 PM NHFT »
here is another story that ran in todays providence journal about the Ng case at the wyatt detention center...

Federal detention center in R.I. a target of probe over detainee’s death

01:00 AM EST on Saturday, January 17, 2009

By W. Zachary Malinowski

Journal Staff Writer

PROVIDENCE — The federal Department of Justice will determine whether staff at the Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility in Central Falls will be prosecuted on any criminal charges for their handling of an immigrant detainee who died in the jail’s custody last summer.

Tom Connell, spokesman for Robert Clark Corrente, the U.S. Attorney for Rhode Island, said that his office will not handle the investigation because it wants to avoid any potential conflicts of interest. Instead, he said the investigation will be handled by the office of Paula D. Silsby, U.S. Attorney for the District of Maine.

A spokeswoman for Silsby did not return a call yesterday...

bmalinow@projo.com



This is the SAME "Paula D. Silsby" who I did contact by phone, letter and office visit BEFORE she had her "Rule of Law" Lecture at the Portland, Maine High School last Fall, and who REFUSED to investigate the unlawfulness of the U.S. District Court in Danny's case there (plus Reno). There is no const. amendment to the Maine Const. required as the condition for their "Consent" from 1-8-17 U.S. Const. http://www.constitution.org/juris/fjur/1fj-ba.htm

She should straighten out her own mess in Maine before venturing out in an attempt to clean up corruption elsewhere!

-- Joe

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Re: Main thread for Ed and Elaine Brown vs the evil IRS
« Reply #8249 on: January 17, 2009, 03:13 PM NHFT »
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At the Library I also picked up a card from The MAINE HUMANITIES COUNCIL, 674 Brighton Avenue, Portland, ME 04101 http://www.mainehumanities.org 1-888-MEReader about some: "Fear, Civil Liberties and the Rule of Law" - "A PUBLIC SYMPOSIUM AND READING PROGRAM" .
Part I of II: EXPLORING THE CONTEXT, DEFINING THE ISSUES, (a) CIVIL LIBERTIES UNDER PRESSURE: THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT, Joel Rosenthal, President, Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs; (b) CIVIL LIBERTIES UNDER PRESSURE: THE CURRENT DEBATE, Jeff McCausland, US ARMY, RET. CARNEGIE COUNCIL SENIOR FELLOW; (c) PANEL DISCUSSION: WHAT DOES THE CURRENT SITUATION MEAN FOR AMERICANS? Moderated By Mr. Rosenthal; Shenna Bellows, Maine Civil Liberties Union, Paula Silsby, U.S. Attorney for Maine, Steve Podgajny, Portland Public Library, Barbara McDade, Bangor Public Library...

Notice WHO is going to be there: Paula Silsby, THE U.S. Attorney whose window clerk woman got the courtesy copy of my Bill to the U.S. District Court, to see what she does with that and then maybe have some questions for her in another month.  ;D or a congratulatory statement that she IS the one!  Like that golfer saying: You're da man.  She's da woman!  ;)

Yours truly, - - Joe


No, she is NOT The Woman. She's useless!