"Live Free or Die" a new movie that takes place in NH.

[burnthebeautiful]

This film will be screening in Portsmouth on October 13th.

"New Hampshire Film Expo (NHFX) presents "Live Free or Die"
Friday, October 13, 2006 at 8:15 PM
The Music Hall
28 Chestnut Street
Portsmouth, NH 03801
Tel: 603-436-2400

http://www.nhfx.com/2006/index.php

http://www.themusichall.org/"

[Crocuta]

Sounds like the title of...bad porn.

[KBCraig]

Another good one is Denzel Washington in De-je-vu.

Just saw that one a couple of weeks ago. At first I didn't think it was going to be good, what with the lame and implausible story of the technology in use. And then when you find the truth about what they were doing... wow!

[penguins4me]

Deja Vu.

- Hero is a member of the BATFE, not exactly considered a glamourous agency even by other feds.
- Villain is white, a small business owner, and a loner. He quotes Thomas Jefferson while trying to blow up civilians.

Typical Hollywood waste, stuffed full of propaganda.

[Quantrill]

To get further off-topic, has anyone seen that movie Militia with Dean Cain?

Not a very entertaining movie, doesn't seem to know what militias are all about and the militia guy ends up working with the feds to thwart a 'terrorist' radio talk show host.


Yeah.

[Lex]

Someone should do an inspirational movie for the Freedom Movement maybe even specifically about the Free State Project. It should be set 10 or 20 years from now in New Hampshire. Have plenty of action, suspense and a good philosophical under pinning. Something that any person who values their ability to defend themselves, to own property and to speak freely would get really riled up from watching. I think this would have made a much bigger impact than Aaron Russos America: Freedom to Fascism.

[d_goddard]

Someone should do an inspirational movie for the Freedom Movement maybe even specifically about the Free State Project.

Way ahead of you:
http://candid-world.com/

[Lex]

Someone should do an inspirational movie for the Freedom Movement maybe even specifically about the Free State Project.

Way ahead of you:
http://candid-world.com/

Candid World is a documentary. I'm thinking more along the lines of fiction based in some truth. The true part being the FSP but from there the story is set in the future and is about the Free State project succeeding. Hence the inspirational part. The ending can probably be made so that it doesn't seem too unrealistic but at least shows some very significant progress made. But it should also be somewhat of an action flick.

Maybe the Free State project or the movement isn't even the major part of the movie but is the subplot. So the main plot is some generic action based story with hot chicks, explosions, guns, etc stuff that's popular today and will get lots of people to watch it. But the society in which this plays out is in NH after the Free Staters have had much success in changing the government around.

The main plot could actually be that Massachussettes becomes totaly socialist and closes the border into NH and how a family having learned about NH is trying to escape to freedom. This is where you will have the action part.

What would be even more cool is to have a movie based around an economic collapse 10 years from now where NH being more free manages to get back on its feet quicker than all the other states. The plot would follow 3 perspectives: a middle class NH family, a politician and a business man. The movie would start off with images of America as a prosperous nation and show happy people, etc, in a collage form, there would be a narrative talking about how things were great then the movie would start with the husband from the previously mentioned family reading the morning news paper about China selling off all of their dollar reserves and he suddenly starts to understand whats going on, a friend gives the business man a call to tell him what's going on, the politician seeing it on the news channel. Then everyone is trying to get home/do something to prepare, etc. Everyone is frantic. People running to banks to get cash out, etc. Show lots of chaos on streets, blah, blah. Cool actions scenes, riots. Government declares state of emergency or does something else, etc. Have twenty minutes of movie here, this will describe a little more about what happened and develop the charachters. Then do a timewarp 6 months into the future, lots of people have died, other countries had economic collapses as a result. About 30 minutes into the movie start showing how the family is gardening, setting up solar panels, learning to be self-sufficient, fending off criminals. Show the businessman using bartering and other free market techniques, etc. Show the politician trying to explain to other states why NH faired so much better than them during the collapse, talk about the free market, less regulation, etc. Maybe show a few of the other states being receptive to the idea of liberty and appreciating how NH survived the collapse so well. The idea here is that the Free Staters had already made a huge amount of progress in NH to move it towards a more stable economic and political environment and as a result of the free market and less regulation we were much better able to make it through the bad times...

[penguins4me]

... I did have one positive thing to say about the movie Deja Vu:

The villain uses a Barak SP-21, which is both spiffy and horrifically ugly.

[KBCraig]

... I did have one positive thing to say about the movie Deja Vu:

The villain uses a Barak SP-21, which is both spiffy and horrifically ugly.

That pretty much puts the "UGH!" into ugleee! Ambi safety, but RH-only mag release? Decocker on top of the slide? ???

But it is interesting. 

Deja Vu.

- Hero is a member of the BATFE, not exactly considered a glamourous agency even by other feds.
- Villain is white, a small business owner, and a loner. He quotes Thomas Jefferson while trying to blow up civilians.

Typical Hollywood waste, stuffed full of propaganda.

Your point about stereotypes is well taken, but someone blowing up innocent civilians should be taken down, even if he quotes Jefferson..

BATFE is widely despised by other LE agencies when it comes to most matters. But to be fair, in this movie, the hero was an arson/explosives guy. When ATF sticks to that roll, they're pretty well respected by other LE folks.

I really didn't see it as a propaganda piece. If anything, there was a note of caution about the surveillance society.

But the climax was great. It was original writing. I liked it, even if the hero was ATF.

Kevin

[penguins4me]

I'm not defending the movie's villain, but I find it very odd that the producers chose to have the villain blowing up civilians while spouting quotes that were directed at the government, such as Jefferson's "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - not sure how even a single individual aboard that ferry could reasonably be considered a "tyrant", and coupled with the behaviour of the BATFE since its inception, find it to be a particularly sour mental note.

Yes, why IWI decided to use decockers only is beyond me - everyone knows pistols are to be carried cocked-and-locked, as the good lord John Moses Browning intended. :P Magnum Research (the importer) notes that the mag release is reversible, though I completely agree with the location of the "safety"/decocker. I did say "spiffy", not perfect. Glocks are perfect. ;D

[d_goddard]

Irena & I saw LFoDHard last night.
It was a fun adventure flick, lots of good car crashes and chases.
It delivers on what you'd expect; nothing exceptionally good or bad.
Turn off your mind, relax, and enjoy.

[Henry]

Deja Vu.

- Hero is a member of the BATFE, not exactly considered a glamourous agency even by other feds.
- Villain is white, a small business owner, and a loner. He quotes Thomas Jefferson while trying to blow up civilians.

Typical Hollywood waste, stuffed full of propaganda.

That's sick. I imagine there was some torture and RFID in it as well? Sounds like it's basically a BATFE commercial, like how many movies today are just military recruitment tools.

"The Central Intelligence Agency secretly bought or created its own media companies and owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - William Colby, former CIA director

[KurtDaBear]

The BATFE is considered uncool by other Fed agencies because, even by fed agency standards, its populated by poor performers.  (Waco comes to mind--they performed the fed agency equivalent of "Charge of the Light Brigade" by going ahead with that after knowing their cover was blown; and they were the initial instigators of Ruby Ridge with their entrapment tactics on Randy Weaver.)  Then, too, as in those two examples, the other fed agencies have to come in and clean up the messes BATFE starts.

It might also have something to do with the fact that everything BATFE deals with is a legal substance.  Therefore there's really no reason for them to exist.  If someone commits a crime using A, T, F or E; some other law enforcement agency can investigate it, just as they would if they use a Hammer, Knife, Fork or Spoon.

[error]

The point of BATFE isn't to investigate crimes involving alcohol, tobacco, firearms or explosives. It's to enforce extremely strict compliance to a Byzantine regulatory scheme and severely punish anyone who doesn't perfectly toe the line.