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Tape the cops, go to jail.

Started by KBCraig, June 29, 2006, 09:08 AM NHFT

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Lex


FTL_Ian

Oh well.. it was an article about three guys getting arrested for taping the cops in NM.

KBCraig

#152
Okay, found it:

http://www.krqe.com/Video/expanded.asp?RECORD_KEY[Video]=ID&ID%5BVideo%5D=4161

You can look here:
http://www.krqe.com/Video/results.asp?Headline=video&submitButtonName=Search

It's the one titled "Bar staff shoots video, goes to jail", from 5/22/06.

Kevin

KBCraig

#153
There's also this one:

Cops tapes himself, may go to jail. Because his dash cam recorded him shooting a man in the back.

http://www.krqe.com/Video/expanded.asp?RECORD_KEY[Video]=ID&ID%5BVideo%5D=1531

Christopher King

I've touched on exposing undercover cops in my blawg,

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/04/naacp-trial-hey-blogger-why-you-buggin.html

Whosarat.com has been doing it for years, but he was a criminal defendant as was I (and still am, albeit now facing some bogus misdemeanor charges now that they backed down on trial day).

http://nhindymedia.org/newswire/display/3521/index.php

Anyway, it worked for me; Blogger restored my posts:

http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/04/naacp-trial-justice-prevails-american.html

One thing they haven't seemed to agree on here is whether those cops were undercover or not; obviously that may affect the ultimate analysis.

Peace.

d_goddard

My hope is that the new law makes recording legal whether the police are undercover or not. After all, if you know they're unhdercover, they're not doing it correctly, right? ;)

Christopher King

Indeed I made that argument on another thread containing proposed legislation, or perhaps it was this same thread, earlier.

Yes, the minute they step outside their cruiser unless there is some highly intensive SWAT surveillance going on, we need to know what they are doing. It's not like "oh, the in-laws are coming so let's get on our best behaviour."

No, we pay them to be on their best at all times, yo.

FTL_Ian


d_goddard

Quote from: Christopher King on July 13, 2006, 10:57 PM NHFT
Indeed I made that argument on another thread containing proposed legislation, or perhaps it was this same thread, earlier.
Probably this one: http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=4265

Anyways, Karma to you for thinking like me ;) ;D

d_goddard

Quote from: FTL_Ian on July 13, 2006, 11:06 PM NHFT
I'd pay them to go away.
Only after you become fantastically wealthy and famous, Ian. ;)

Lex

Quote from: d_goddard on July 13, 2006, 11:20 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on July 13, 2006, 11:06 PM NHFT
I'd pay them to go away.
Only after you become fantastically wealthy and famous, Ian. ;)

Bribe the gangs to stay out of NH  ;D

Christopher King

You mean the gangs with the badges?

KBCraig

Notice the police are trying to deflect attention, saying that Gannon turned over an edited tape that didn't include "everything he did".

Gannon is not charged with doing anything except recording the police, so anything on the tapes is irrelevant to the criminal case.



http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Nashua+dad+won%27t+take+plea+deal&articleId=f89578bb-02fa-4032-bbe3-e747240ac930

Nashua dad won't take plea deal
By NICHOLAS COATES
Union Leader Correspondent

Nashua ? Michael Gannon said he has rejected a Nashua Police Department plea deal to reduce the two felony wiretapping charges against him to a misdemeanor wiretapping charge.

Police have charged him with illegally recording two separate conversations Gannon and his wife had with two Nashua Police detectives last month.

Gannon was charged with recording a conversation between Detective Andrew Karlis and Detective Thomas Bergeron while the three stood on Gannon's front porch late on the night of June 23. He also was charged with recording a conversation between him, his wife and Karlis on June 26.

Police said Gannon broke the all-party consent provision of the state's wiretapping law. Gannon has argued that the police knew they were being taped because he told them he had a surveillance system in place when they came to investigate his son.

According to Gannon, he would not have had to serve any jail time if he decided to take the plea deal.

"I'm a card player, and they (police) are trying to tell me they have all the aces when I'm staring at four aces in my hand," Gannon, 39, of 26 Morgan St., said yesterday. "They offered me the deal (before my probable cause hearing), and I know I did nothing wrong so I said, 'No way am I taking that deal.'"

Gannon was initially set for a probable cause hearing on July 12, but Nashua Police Department Legal Bureau Commander Capt. Peter Segal asked for a continuance. Nashua Police Chief Timothy Hefferan said yesterday the delay was sought because the tape Gannon originally turned in to police -- which led to his eventual arrest -- was edited and didn't contain "all of the things he did those nights."

Hefferan said he was unaware of the plea deal, but planned to discuss it with the department's legal bureau this morning.

Hefferan said the tape Gannon turned in to police when he tried lodging a complaint about the behavior of police detectives Andrew Karlis and Thomas Bergeron was "edited, and there is more than one version.

"Because there are multiple versions, it has complicated things," Hefferan said.

Hefferan said his department's internal investigation into Gannon's complaint about the two detectives' conduct is ongoing.

Gannon disputed Hefferan's claims about the multiple versions of the tape, saying that it was an edited version for a reason.

"I brought them a tape that had 15 minutes of misbehavior. I decided to bring that instead of all the tapes because that would have been 30 hours worth of tape," Gannon said. "I would not have minded bringing in the rest of the tapes, but they never told me to do that.

"The only time I got nasty with them is when the one detective snapped at me after he came to my house at 11 at night. He kept asking for my son and was being rude. I told him to leave and then he stuck his foot in the door as I tried to close it. When he did, he came into my house and that's when I told him, 'You get the (expletive) out of my house.'"

Gannon said he has a warning sticker on the cable junction box on the side of the building, that says: "Warning. Homeland Security Cameras. Closed-circuit television and audio monitoring on premises."

"I read your story in the Union Leader about the woman from the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union that said I am right," Gannon said. "If she says I'm right, then I know I'm right."

Dreepa

Quote from: KBCraig on July 27, 2006, 02:55 AM NHFT
Notice the police are trying to deflect attention, saying that Gannon turned over an edited tape that didn't include "everything he did".

Gannon is not charged with doing anything except recording the police, so anything on the tapes is irrelevant to the criminal case.
That point would make for a good LTE
Quote
"I read your story in the Union Leader about the woman from the New Hampshire Civil Liberties Union that said I am right," Gannon said. "If she says I'm right, then I know I'm right."
Yeah I believe everything I read in the paper! lol

Dave Ridley

Finally got around to calling nashua pd to gripe about this and they transferred me to a desk seargent.   Don't remember his name but he was maybe the second rudest cop I've talked to in-state.   He says they get calls all the time from people angry with what they do...wonder why that is...   He refused to give me any names of people I should talk with and said I have no recourse becuase I'm not directly involved.  I said your telling me I can't stick up for a fellow NH resident?

I wasn't rude to him but wasn't real friendly either.  I don't remember any other details but I do remember that I was still talking when he hung up two minutes into the conversation.