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Started by tracysaboe, July 06, 2006, 07:47 AM NHFT

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tracysaboe


This really isn't anything new. We already have "Save a PAtriot" and our own network of undergrounders here in New Hampshire.

But if anybody wants to develope a viable business model or launch a business based on this idea it could only serve to help. That would free us up to help the people who can't afford "Freedom insurence" and those who don't realize they need it. 
       ~TS

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Freedom Insurence
http://www.anti-state.com/tilson/tilson3.html

Recently in the almost hallowed pages of the not yet venerable web site Anti-State.com, two articles have appeared that may point the way to gain a free society now.

Robert Vroman's Assassination Politics and Andy Stedman's defense agency articles are both influences for what I am about to describe. I should point out that I am unalterably opposed, on moral grounds, to Assassination Politics. This opposition is beyond the scope of this article so I will not go into it here. There is however an aspect of AP that appeals to me and that is the naming of a freedom offending individual and asking other individuals to act in a certain way towards that individual.

Stedman's article describes a decentralized defense agency/society that will get you out of statist caused trouble provided you are a member. Even to the point of using combat troops to enable your escape from a prison if it should come to that. This is a great idea and I think it holds some promise even if there are some technical issues that have to be worked out.

What I am proposing is a system of insurance that if you are arrested on some political crime (gun law, drug law, sex law, tax law, immigration law, or commercial law etc. violation) lawyers will be dispatched as well as activists and propagandists.

The lawyers are there to use whatever legal tactics they can to keep your life from getting worse, i.e. they would get you out of jail and act as a shield between you and the state's employees. This is no different than what lawyers are supposed to do now, however our lawyers will have an ideological bond with the person they are defending so there will be more agreement on tactics and a vision of the ultimate goal which many lawyer-client relationships lack now.

Civil Rights lawyers will also be sent to make sure it becomes a Civil Rights issue by suing the arresting agency, its employees and all sundry agencies, and their employees that are involved.

The activists and propagandists are there simply to stir up non-violent trouble. Their purpose is to organize protests, run ads in the local media, appear on local talk shows, hand out fliers, discuss jury nullification, hold workshops and engage in civil disobedience. These things sometimes happen in a controversial case but it is usually an ad hoc arrangement that may lack focus, strong leadership and the resources to stay committed.

If you own Freedom Insurance and you are arrested for something your policy covers you are guaranteed that allies and sympathizers will be on the scene, coming to your aid within 24 hours. It does not matter how small the issue, you call ? they come.

One of the first things that the activist will do is find out all they can about the arresting officer(s) and the prosecutor. They will then organize peaceful protests at the residences of these people, the ads will mention these people by name and ask if they know anything about freedom or the Constitution or their oaths to the Constitution. In addition their families will be sought out and asked questions such as: "Do you support your husband when he violates the rights of others?" "Did you know your daughter was acting illegally and in violation of the Constitution she has sworn to uphold?"

The idea here is to get it in to the heads of the people who enforce these laws that it just is too much trouble to bother with. Arrest someone with an FI card and he is looking at months of living hell for him and his family and friends. After awhile, if this idea is successful the mere presence of a FI bumper sticker will get the driver of that vehicle a pass or the owner of that store a pass or that prostitute a pass and so on. The more that cops lay off FI policy holders will ensure that more and more people will join and in this way the state will be undercut.

As people realize that the police have no will to enforce evil laws those laws will be disobeyed by millions. If what usually happens when a people are free to go about their business we will see a massive increase in the standard of living with all the usual happiness that follows from that.

After awhile this might very well evolve into Stedman's Defense Agency and from there the state will be halfway into the grave.

Of course (another nod to AP) it should be pointed out that all the main offices and computer servers will be located outside of the USA and all communication will take place with the aid of encryption.

Let's give it a push: become a Freedom Insurance owner today. Call the home office for a representative near you.

Lex

What's the phone number?  ;)

srqrebel


FTL_Ian

The idea is great and it should be done.  Who will be the entrepreneur to start it?

Naturally, government will consider the organization a gang, and attempt to destroy the leadership.

Lex

Quote from: FTL_Ian on July 06, 2006, 10:16 AM NHFT
The idea is great and it should be done.  Who will be the entrepreneur to start it?

Naturally, government will consider the organization a gang, and attempt to destroy the leadership.

Actually today they would probably consider them terrorists for terrorizing the government  >:D

Braddogg

Quote from: tracysaboe on July 06, 2006, 07:47 AM NHFT
In addition their families will be sought out and asked questions such as: "Do you support your husband when he violates the rights of others?" "Did you know your daughter was acting illegally and in violation of the Constitution she has sworn to uphold?"

:o  That's harrassment, and would be the first thing the authorities used to dissolve the organization.

Lex

Quote from: Braddogg on July 06, 2006, 11:25 AM NHFT
Quote from: tracysaboe on July 06, 2006, 07:47 AM NHFT
In addition their families will be sought out and asked questions such as: "Do you support your husband when he violates the rights of others?" "Did you know your daughter was acting illegally and in violation of the Constitution she has sworn to uphold?"

:o  That's harrassment, and would be the first thing the authorities used to dissolve the organization.

Yeah, I don't think we would want to implement everything described in that article... especially using military force to get people out of prisons.... I think that's a bit far fetched.

Stuff like having lots of lawyers and an activist network I think would make it a worthwhile organization.

Braddogg

Quote from: Lex Berezhny on July 06, 2006, 11:30 AM NHFT
Stuff like having lots of lawyers and an activist network I think would make it a worthwhile organization.

Agreed.  Activists and lawyers are a good place to start, but I think such an organization should help the families of those jailed, both socially and financially.  Having the families of the incarcerated over for group dinners, helping them with their rent/mortgage, etc.

FSPinNY

Illegal activities are specifically excluded from insurance policies.  I'll bet that the Insurance Dept of NY would not allow such an insurance business to exist here! They hassled the hell out of the Ithaca Health Fund to the tune of about $25,000 in lawyer's fees, saying that the Fund was insurance and needed to be regulated.  NH Dept of Insurance may be much different - I hope so.  NH has amazed me in the past - in a positive way!

Brian

srqrebel

Quote from: FSPinNY on July 07, 2006, 08:20 PM NHFT
Illegal activities are specifically excluded from insurance policies.  I'll bet that the Insurance Dept of NY would not allow such an insurance business to exist here! They hassled the hell out of the Ithaca Health Fund to the tune of about $25,000 in lawyer's fees, saying that the Fund was insurance and needed to be regulated.  NH Dept of Insurance may be much different - I hope so.  NH has amazed me in the past - in a positive way!

Brian

Anyone have any ideas on how one could do an end run around these kinds of regulations, or otherwise overcome them?  I really, really like this idea, but the very nature of such an entity would surely cause it to violate existing regulations, and if an organization cannot escape being shut down by the government, it is useless.

FTL_Ian

Ignore them?

It would be proving it's viability by fighting off the government's attacks...

Perhaps it would have to come down to a press release:

"We're not harming anyone, and people are doing business with us voluntarily.  If you insist on being violent with us, we will return your violence and harassment on you tenfold"

FTL_Ian

We're talking about a real threat to govt's legitimacy here, there's a good chance action will be taken against the freedom insurance group.

Governments don't like competition.

Dave Ridley


Wow, this is the best idea I think I've heard since discovering the FSP itself!

Each of us should think of something we can do right now, however small, to bring this idea closer to being a reality in-state.   The best thing I can think of to do right now is call free talk live and talk it up there.  I will probably do that as soon as I get a chance.

I'm guessing the organization would stand the best chance of succeeding if its policies were only in effect inside New Hampshire, if had no offices, no bank accounts and no interest in retaliatory violence. As Mike Fisher is always saying, violence against the government tends to make it grow.

Ideally it would start small and have only a small objective.  That objective might simply be to defend itself and one or two customers.  Maybe it could do a practice run of some kind by having one of its members commit an act of civil disobedience and then test the infrastructure out defending that person.   This would generate quite a bit of publicity too, and that could generate more customers.

If the policies were only available in NH, that would draw activists here. 

I agree that it is probably not appropriate to contact the families of perpetrators, unless they are perpetrators themselves.  Showing up at the bad guy's home seems like a viable idea in some cases.

Coupled with a Porcupine 911 this would be a great way to protect our activists who refuse to take a Real ID driver's license, assuming such a thing comes to pass here.


srqrebel

Quote from: DadaOrwell on July 12, 2006, 08:23 AM NHFT
As Mike Fisher is always saying, violence against the government tends to make it grow.

This is SO true!!!

I would be very interested in organizing or helping organize this venture.  I believe this could be a historical step in the quest for freedom.

Pat McCotter

Remember Al Kulas during last October's floods?

Host Al Kulas of WKBK-AM in Keene, New Hampshire needed the four-wheel drive in his pickup truck to ford through water in four locations on his way to the station?s studio on the morning of Sunday, October 9. Once there, he broadcast for 12 hours straight, providing listeners with updates and emergency information about severe flash floods that shut down roads and prompted widespread evacuations. WKBK was the only station in the area to provide live coverage of the crisis. As a result, police, fire and other officials relied extensively on Kulas throughout the day to keep local residents informed. Arnie Johnson, director of emergency services with the New Hampshire West Chapter of the American Red Cross, called Kulas ?a hero? for his work in the aftermath of the flooding.