Free Russell Rally

[John]

"Has this Country gone completly insane?"
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Interesting, because part the song I'm working on is:

"Some people say if you don't like it here, why don't you leave
And if you don't vote, then you should not complain
"But if they have all the answers, and I guess they think they do
Then tell me how my country went insane"
. . .

[John]

And:

"Well, we're on the road to Freedom now, We're trying somthing new
And non-cooperation is the key
You can keep on trying, all the things you've tried before
But if you'ld like then you can join with me

So, Join us at the court house - if you can find the time!, Those "Free Speech Zones" aint good enough for me
So come on out and meet your friends, We're gonna have a ball
Today we all will take it to the street
. . ."

[FrankChodorov]

Do you think that if someone is protesting for a while, they are still protesting by default after they put their signs down for the rest of the day and start to walk off?  That is a silly argument that is devoid of common sense.  Walking along the road is not illegal (at least not in NH) except for on the turnpikes.  Having a parade that obstructs traffic requires a permit, but a group of people walking along the side of the road without costumes or signs is not a parade.

if a group of protestors walk off together and use the road - I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that they may be still participating in protesting...

[John]

Pastor Garrett Lear was going to try and visit Russell today.  I hope he makes it!

If there is a God, I think he must be smiling down on these two men.
I have not prayed for many a year, but I'm as close to it as I remember how.
I think I might remember more today.  (I don't know how one prays to an "if", but my heart is "in it."

[Lloyd Danforth]

Do you think that if someone is protesting for a while, they are still protesting by default after they put their signs down for the rest of the day and start to walk off?  That is a silly argument that is devoid of common sense.  Walking along the road is not illegal (at least not in NH) except for on the turnpikes.  Having a parade that obstructs traffic requires a permit, but a group of people walking along the side of the road without costumes or signs is not a parade.

if a group of protestors walk off together and use the road - I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that they may be still participating in protesting...

Nor wold it be unreasonable to conclude that they still had the right to assemble and walk on public property.

[John]

Do you think that if someone is protesting for a while, they are still protesting by default after they put their signs down for the rest of the day and start to walk off?  That is a silly argument that is devoid of common sense.  Walking along the road is not illegal (at least not in NH) except for on the turnpikes.  Having a parade that obstructs traffic requires a permit, but a group of people walking along the side of the road without costumes or signs is not a parade.

if a group of protestors walk off together and use the road - I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that they may be still participating in protesting...

When my daughter asked why Russell was arrested I said, I call it Free speech.
Maybe Freedom of assosiation is also a crime now?
Maybe soon the federal boys (and girls) will be pushing our NH police to bust us for assosiation?

[FrankChodorov]

Do you think that if someone is protesting for a while, they are still protesting by default after they put their signs down for the rest of the day and start to walk off?  That is a silly argument that is devoid of common sense.  Walking along the road is not illegal (at least not in NH) except for on the turnpikes.  Having a parade that obstructs traffic requires a permit, but a group of people walking along the side of the road without costumes or signs is not a parade.

if a group of protestors walk off together and use the road - I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that they may be still participating in protesting...

Nor wold it be unreasonable to conclude that they still had the right to assemble and walk on public property.

not as an assembled group on a public road but yes on a sidewalk as long as they keep moving...

not free speech in a public building that will disrupt the business being transacted there like the IRS & post office.

it seems odd that people who don't believe in "public" property will try use it but out of context to the individual common rights we all have to speech, assembly and redress of greivances.

[FrankChodorov]

When my daughter asked why Russell was arrested I said, I call it Free speech.

you have no right to free speech in a collectively owned building that would disrupt the business purpose...you do on a sidewalk with an implicit individual common right of way so long as you do not infringe on anyone else's individual common right of way on the sidewalk.

Maybe Freedom of association is also a crime now?

you have no freedom of association right on a public road without a permit as it would interfere with a individual common right of way used for automobiles...you do on a sidewalk though.

[mraaron]

   I thought that outer party members who work in the Ministry of Information  were not allowed to associate with us in the proletarian areas.  And don't trust the guy who runs the antique shop, its a trap.

[Recumbent ReCycler]

When my daughter asked why Russell was arrested I said, I call it Free speech.

you have no right to free speech in a collectively owned building that would disrupt the business purpose...you do on a sidewalk with an implicit individual common right of way so long as you do not infringe on anyone else's individual common right of way on the sidewalk.

Maybe Freedom of association is also a crime now?

you have no freedom of association right on a public road without a permit as it would interfere with a individual common right of way used for automobiles...you do on a sidewalk though.

http://nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html
[Art.] 30. [Freedom of Speech.] The freedom of deliberation, speech, and debate, in either house of the legislature, is so essential to the rights of the people, that it cannot be the foundation of any action, complaint, or prosecutio n, in any other court or place whatsoever.

June 2, 1784

[Art.] 31. [Meetings of Legislature, for What Purposes.] The legislature shall assemble for the redress of public grievances and for making such laws as the public good may require.

June 2, 1784
Amended 1792 generally rewording sentence and omitting "for correcting, strengthening and confirming the laws."

[Art.] 32. [Rights of Assembly, Instruction, and Petition.] The people have a right, in an orderly and peaceable manner, to assemble and consult upon the common good, give instructions to their representatives, and to request of the l egislative body, by way of petition or remonstrance, redress of the wrongs done them, and of the grievances they suffer.

June 2, 1784

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

[FrankChodorov]

the houses of the legislature (a collectively owned property) are purposely designed for the free exchange of ideas as it relates to the redress of greivances by the citizens...the IRS building and post office are not.

in the redressing of greivances no one within the legislative building would have the right to speak at the same time as the person who has been acknowledge to hold the floor.

[mraaron]

http://co.strafford.nh.us/jail/annualreport.html  Read this.
 

[Kat Kanning]

Trafficking in humans is still big business.

[cathleeninnh]

I am kind of curious about the 2095 males, 481 females, and 19 OTHER?

Cathleen

[d_goddard]

I am kind of curious about the 19 OTHER?
Cathleen

Why Cathleen... I had no idea you were "curious".
If you ever visit San Francisco, I could recommend some places for you to check out