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Question about tax protest types.

Started by Osborn F. Enready, August 23, 2006, 02:00 AM NHFT

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cathleeninnh

Quote from: lildog on September 14, 2006, 10:20 AM NHFT
Taxes are a necessary evil for SOME things required to run a government. 

As long as there are SOME things, there will be people clamoring to use democracy to their own advantage.

Cathleen

tracysaboe

Quote from: lildog on September 14, 2006, 10:20 AM NHFT
If our government was reeled in to actually follow the Constitution

Utopian!  ;)

Tracy

lildog

Quote from: Braddogg on September 14, 2006, 10:32 AM NHFT
Quote from: lildog on September 14, 2006, 10:20 AM NHFT
Taxes are a necessary evil

Do you really think taxes are evil?  And if so, why are you supporting evil acts?  Maybe you should pause a minute and decide just how evil you think taxes are.  If tax money goes to do good things, that's a different discussion.  First, contemplate just how evil THEFT is.  THEN, after you've thought about the evil of taxes, consider the benefits.  Would it still be worth the evil?

Brad, look at it this way? one of the few things the constitution defines as a duty of the government is defense.

Let?s look at it on a local level to make it easier?

Defense on a local level would be police.  In a perfect world there would be no crime and no need for police but the world isn?t perfect.

So to have a police force you need money.  Hence the need for taxes.  So unfortunately the good have to pay because of the evil, which is why I call taxes a necessary evil.

If we followed the constitution and stuck to paying for only defense, post office and roads then there would be a clear-cut benefit for what we pay.  They are services we all use.

It?s when you get into the government spending money to buy condoms from China to give out to people in Africa (true story!) that we see no benefit.

FrankChodorov

anarcho-capitalists want no state monopoly on force and voluntary transactions only.

that means private dispute resolution organizations (DROs) instead of police and courts.

lildog

Quote from: FrankChodorov on September 14, 2006, 11:07 AM NHFT
anarcho-capitalists want no state monopoly on force and voluntary transactions only.

that means private dispute resolution organizations (DROs) instead of police and courts.

And we'd be left with a system where justice goes to the highest bidder (not that we don't already have that to some degree already).

If you have a lot of money, you'd be able to aford the best protection.  Someone in a getto where crime is already high may not be able to afford ANY protection.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: FrankChodorov on September 14, 2006, 11:07 AM NHFT
anarcho-capitalists want no state monopoly on force and voluntary transactions only.

that means private dispute resolution organizations (DROs) instead of police and courts.

and self defense or private defense agency instead of a police force.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: lildog on September 14, 2006, 11:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: FrankChodorov on September 14, 2006, 11:07 AM NHFT
anarcho-capitalists want no state monopoly on force and voluntary transactions only.

that means private dispute resolution organizations (DROs) instead of police and courts.

And we'd be left with a system where justice goes to the highest bidder (not that we don't already have that to some degree already).

If you have a lot of money, you'd be able to aford the best protection.  Someone in a getto where crime is already high may not be able to afford ANY protection.

Yes, injustice would be 'hit and miss'. Not institutionalized as it is today.

FrankChodorov

Quote from: lildog on September 14, 2006, 11:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: FrankChodorov on September 14, 2006, 11:07 AM NHFT
anarcho-capitalists want no state monopoly on force and voluntary transactions only.

that means private dispute resolution organizations (DROs) instead of police and courts.

And we'd be left with a system where justice goes to the highest bidder (not that we don't already have that to some degree already).

If you have a lot of money, you'd be able to aford the best protection.  Someone in a getto where crime is already high may not be able to afford ANY protection.

naw, you would just have to sell yourself into perpetual indentured servitude (free laborers for landowners)...in other words - bring back fuedalism - yeah baby!

Russell Kanning

I can't picture there being any "necessary evils"

lildog

Quote from: Russell Kanning on September 14, 2006, 12:57 PM NHFT
I can't picture there being any "necessary evils"

You haven't had to follow me in a bathroom if you REALLY have to pee.     ;D