Question about tax protest types.

[Osborn F. Enready]

Speaking of tax protests, do you support those who earn less than $5000 a year to avoid paying federal income tax, since it in effect, drains the resource pool of the federal government?

The reason I ask is this....

I feel I could easily get by on less than $5000 a year, if I have land to have a small cabin on, my possesions, and an ability to hunt and fish for food.

I do not require a "paying job" except for goods I can't get other ways.

Can anyone here see a way to live on less than $5000 and still own property with a cabin in NH? (property taxes)

I am an aspiring writer, jack of all trades, survivalist type.  I don't see living without many commercial ammenities being a problem.

What are NH laws on felling trees on privately owned property?
What are NH laws on hunting, fishing?

Ideas, thoughts, POV's welcomed.

[tracysaboe]

If you can get away with not paying taxes. More power to you.

I don't care if you made 13 Million dollars a year. If you didn't pay taxes, that's that much more money for productive purposes instead of ending up in bureaucratic hell -- or worse the bureaucrats using it to hurt or kill you and me.

Tracy

[Dave Ridley]

That sounds kinda cool Osbourne...

[Russell Kanning]

I agree .... you should go Thoreau on 'um. Even if you make more, if the feds don't know about it they are less likely to break down your door.

[Braddogg]

I'd support everyone with the testicular fortitude necessary not paying their federal income taxes.  Or their property taxes 

I've always kinda wanted to do a year in the wilderness.

[Moorlock]

You should be aware that $5,000 is much, much lower than the actual amount you can earn and stay under the federal income tax line.  Even if you don't make any effort to qualify for legitimate tax deductions and credits, the limit is the sum of your standard deduction and your exemptions (which is thousands more than $5,000 even if you're single and childless).

I use legitimate tax deductions and credits, and am able to stay under the federal income tax line even when earning upwards of $25,000 per year.

I've even written a how-to guide: http://sniggle.net/Experiment/index.php?entry=howto

I think that getting under the tax line is a good tax resistance method for a number of reasons, and I encourage you to look into it ? but don?t exaggerate the difficulty or you?ll discourage folks!

[PowerPenguin]

I do this, and it's been working for a while now. The only lurking variable here though is that my current and last summer's part-time jobs took it out "for" me (how nice of them!!). Ballance this with all the other commerce I do/*try* to do, which I don't fork over a single cent for, at least not via income tax.

[tracysaboe]

You should be aware that $5,000 is much, much lower than the actual amount you can earn and stay under the federal income tax line.  Even if you don't make any effort to qualify for legitimate tax deductions and credits, the limit is the sum of your standard deduction and your exemptions (which is thousands more than $5,000 even if you're single and childless).

I use legitimate tax deductions and credits, and am able to stay under the federal income tax line even when earning upwards of $25,000 per year.

I've even written a how-to guide: http://sniggle.net/Experiment/index.php?entry=howto

I think that getting under the tax line is a good tax resistance method for a number of reasons, and I encourage you to look into it ? but don?t exaggerate the difficulty or you?ll discourage folks!

Currently, for Amy and I our stnadard Deduction is $10,000 + $3,000 per person.

That's $16,000/year we can make. We could put $3,500/year each into a Simple IRS and deduct all of that too. (And purchase bricks of gold or platnum with it so we can stay out of the financial government regulatory market in the process -- or just invest it somewhere. hopefully by the time I retire the US government will be imploded and I won't need to worry about paying taxes on it when I take it out.

If we had our house all paid for and didn't have any debt -- we could make a comfortable living, for $16,000/year.

Tracy

[cathleeninnh]

I will never be proud of the fact that I play by their rules, even if I end up not paying.

Cathleen

[Osborn F. Enready]

Thanks for the replies everyone, and the honesty!

I will also check out that site Moorlock.  Thanks.

The reason I stay under 5000.00 now, is that in Ohio if you pay out less than $5000 to an employee as a LLC, per year, you don't even have to claim them from what I understand.

Due to that, I float around between aquaintances that operate LLC's and never earn more than 5000 from them per year.  Makes the book work easy on both of us, which provides us BOTH incentive.   

Have I said how much Ohio sucks?   

[PowerPenguin]

I will never be proud of the fact that I play by their rules, even if I end up not paying.

Cathleen

Paying is bad even if you get a 100% "return" because of fractional reserve banking.

[Dreepa]

hopefully by the time I retire the US government will be imploded and I won't need to worry about paying taxes on it when I take it out.

Your IRA will probably implode too if the US govt does.

[tracysaboe]

Not if it's in Gold or other heavy metals or comodities.

Especially not if it's in my house.

Tracy

[lildog]

See this is where as a constitutionalist I find myself parting ways with the way most of you think.

Taxes are a necessary evil for SOME things required to run a government.  Unfortunately our government has completely ignored those powers specifically detailed within the Constitution and begun spending on everything and anything it wants.

If our government was reeled in to actually follow the Constitution I don?t think many people would have a problem with taxes as they would be FAR less then they are today.

[Braddogg]

Taxes are a necessary evil

Do you really think taxes are evil?  And if so, why are you supporting evil acts?  Maybe you should pause a minute and decide just how evil you think taxes are.  If tax money goes to do good things, that's a different discussion.  First, contemplate just how evil THEFT is.  THEN, after you've thought about the evil of taxes, consider the benefits.  Would it still be worth the evil?