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What's your opinion about the talk of Concentration Camps in USA

Started by Raineyrocks, August 25, 2006, 10:14 AM NHFT

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Raineyrocks

I keep running across these websites that have pictures of them and some people claim that they have inside info about what they are going to really be used for in the future (us Americans). Here is one link http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/con1.html , if you want more I can get them later. My husband's waiting for me to get ready to go out.
I'll tell you what though, after I read about this stuff, it scares the crap out of me, mainly because I have kids and couldn't imagine this happening.

I know it's a morbid subject I am just wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

Lex

Quote from: raineyrocks on August 25, 2006, 10:14 AM NHFT
I keep running across these websites that have pictures of them and some people claim that they have inside info about what they are going to really be used for in the future (us Americans). Here is one link http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/con1.html , if you want more I can get them later. My husband's waiting for me to get ready to go out.
I'll tell you what though, after I read about this stuff, it scares the crap out of me, mainly because I have kids and couldn't imagine this happening.
I know it's a morbid subject I am just wondering if anyone knows anything about it.

I think that page is a joke, did you read this:


14)Have you seen Elvis and where is he now? Sorry that's on another page, not this one. Please move on.


He's obviously making fun of people who believe this sorts of stuff.

Money Dollars


Lex

Quote from: Money Dollars on August 25, 2006, 10:40 AM NHFT
I think russell just got out of one........ask him

Good point.

Another thing to consider: during the Holucust some of the camps where built by the prisoners themselves (Extermination Camp Treblinka II was built by prisoners from Punitive Labor Camp Treblinka I, camp Majdanek, also in Poland, was built by Soviet POWs). So, it doesn't really matter if all the camps are already built or not. If that is the direction our country will head towards than not having enough concentration camps will not stop the momentum.

Money Dollars

The Americans will just make you dig a hole in the ground........

Not the best place to go for info, but you will not find this in US history books.....
http://www.revisionists.com/revisionism.html
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Between 1 and 2 million German POWs died in American captivity after surrender (1945)


Germans prisoners of war living in holes in the ground, hardly any food or shelter and no heat in the winter,

KBCraig

Quote from: Money Dollars on August 25, 2006, 11:24 AM NHFT
The Americans will just make you dig a hole in the ground........

Not the best place to go for info, but you will not find this in US history books.....
http://www.revisionists.com/revisionism.html
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Between 1 and 2 million German POWs died in American captivity after surrender (1945)

As inexcusable as the POW policy was after WWII, even crackpot James Bacques doesn't claim that many deaths.

Most likely figure is about 70,000.

Kevin

Money Dollars

At some point it looks like James Bacques was claiming around 1 million.

I've never looked into the numbers much, but most WWII stuff seems to be estimates....and most are pretty bad.  No one seems to have much proof. In the end it doesn't really matter, cus way too many people died---on all sides.

QuoteEven estimates of the number of people who died at Auschwitz -- allegedly the main extermination center -- are no longer clear cut. At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. (note 10) Until 1990, a memorial plaque at Auschwitz read: "Four Million People Suffered and Died Here at the Hands of the Nazi Murderers Between the Years 1940 and 1945." (note 11) During a 1979 visit to the camp, Pope John Paul II stood before this memorial and blessed the four million victims.



Is it "Holocaust denial" to dispute these four million deaths? Not today. In July 1990, the Polish government's Auschwitz State Museum, along with Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust center, conceded that the four million figure was a gross exaggeration, and references to it were accordingly removed from the Auschwitz monument. Israeli and Polish officials announced a tentative revised toll of 1.1 million Auschwitz dead. (note 12) In 1993, French Holocaust researcher Jean-Claude Pressac, in a much-discussed book about Auschwitz, estimated that altogether about 775,000 died there during the war years. (note 13)

Lloyd Danforth

I first heard of federal camps in the early '70's along with claims of the imminent collapse of the economy.

Money Dollars

I learned about the federal camps in elementary school. They called them indian reservations.

Caleb

There is a defense document that I am considering filing a FoI request for that documents that the federal government has been purchasing lots of train cars with built in shackles. 

Its hard to see the American people standing for that.  Then again ...

Marcy

FEMA reportedly has concentration camps lined up (and there Executive Orders to support them).   There's even a site that listed a potential NH concentration camp in a former WWII camp.... near Lake Francis.

This raises some questions that maybe someone who treks around NH more than I do can answer.  There was one WWII camp for POW's in NH.  In early 1944, the remains of a former Civilian Concervation Corps Camp in Stark was transformed to hold about 250 German POWs. The camp closed in 1946.  Camp Stark is about 40 miles from Lake Francis, not sure how "near" that makes it. Does anyone know about this camp?

If FEMA is running the concentration camp project, I don't think we have much to worry about IMHO, especially if detentions are many and across the country.  FEMA is not exactly a model of efficiency.

KBCraig

Quote from: Marcy on August 25, 2006, 08:51 PM NHFT
This raises some questions that maybe someone who treks around NH more than I do can answer.  There was one WWII camp for POW's in NH.  In early 1944, the remains of a former Civilian Concervation Corps Camp in Stark was transformed to hold about 250 German POWs. The camp closed in 1946.  Camp Stark is about 40 miles from Lake Francis, not sure how "near" that makes it. Does anyone know about this camp?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Hampshire_Historical_Markers:_126-150

"150. Camp Stark German Prisoner of War Camp

    "In the spring of 1944 a high fence and four guard towers transformed a former Civilian Conservation Corps Camp on this site into New Hampshire's sole World War II prisoner of war camp. Approximately 250 German and Austrian soldiers, most of whom were captured in North Africa, lived in Camp Stark while working in the surrounding forest where they cut pulpwood vital to wartime industry. The camp closed in the spring of 1946 when the prisoners were returned to their homeland. Several maintained the new friendships they had formed with local New Hampshire residents."

Last year there was a hunting cabin for sale on the POW site. I can't find it now (I'm sure it's sold already), but one of the Berlin realty agencies had it listed.

Edit: Found it! It's still for sale. It was actually a sub-camp in Dummer, where POWs cut timber.

http://www.pcre.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR170918/ACTIVATE_FRAMES/NEW_CONSTRUCTION/Berlin/1155155663.html

"Large one room camp located in Newell Brook which was originally used as temporary housing for German P.O.W.'s during W.W.II to cut wood for the Brown Company. This is the last remaining camp associated with the famous Stark prison Camps. This rustic camp has since served as a hunting camp and is starting to show it's age, but still offers a great location for the outdoorsman who enjoys hunting, fishing and riding snowmachines or a.t.v.'s. Camp is being sold completely furnished with two wood stoves, bunk beds, gas cook stove, tables, chairs, rocking chairs and gas lights. Camp is situated on leased land thru Bayroot LLC at $773(04)a year."


Kevin



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