Free Town Project - My Thoughts

[Transition Force]

You know, I really hadn't given the free town project much though until today, when it hit me.

I live within a reasonable distance from 3 or 4 towns that have already done what is being proposed with the Free Town Project. They've declared independence from the State and Federal Governments. Now, I don't remember exactly which towns they are, so I'm going to have to look into this more, and find out whether these independence declarations are more than just words. If they truly have seperated themselves, then well, i figure why not ask those who've already done it what troubles they faced, and how they overcame them?

So over the next few days I'm going to try to figure out which towns these are again (I used to know, but forgot about them). Then, I'll visit them and hopefully gather up some useful information. I'll keep everyone posted in this thread.

[aries]

I didnt know that towns did that outside of Vermont

Cool!

[Transition Force]

I didnt know that towns did that outside of Vermont

Cool!

What towns in Vermont have done this? IIRC, the towns out here that have done so did it in response to religous persecution (they are non-LDS mormons)

[Atlas]

Our best bet is to bring in the VT freedom lovers to NH. It should be easy as they don't have to move very far. Make it happen.

[maineiac]

Dude,

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but those declarations were probably just words paying lip service to their spiritual allegiance to Higher Authorities, while they continue to offer themselves up on the sacrificial state altar of taxation and licensing. 

[Transition Force]

K... well, haven't found out much about those other towns... because I'm in shock from what I found out: I'm currently living in one of those towns! 5 years ago, the town seccedded from the UN. CATO's archives has information about that, see http://www.cato.org/dispatch/06-27-01d.html#3

Also check out some NYT coverage of it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/11/olympics/11TOWN.html?ex=1158292800&en=60eb1833bcc67fb8&ei=5070

(The town name is "La Verkin")

I originally didn't know about the part about the US... but... at a local auto repair shop there is a sign that says the following:

"La Verkin City
Voted out of the UN : 2001
Voted out of the US : 2006"

I don't know if this is anything more than words only. The cops from the adjoining town (Hurricane) frequently pull over people breaking the speed limit in town, and there is at least one federal building in town (the post office). I'll be looking into this more tommorrow, I have the day off. At the least, it seems the town still subjects itself to the state government, which in turn subjects itself to the Federal Government. But, I'm keeping my hopes up!

[Money Dollars]

I live within a reasonable distance from 3 or 4 towns that have already done what is being proposed with the Free Town Project. They've declared independence from the State and Federal Governments.

I did not know that is what was being proposed with the Free Town Project. I thought the idea was to have a majority voting block of "liberty lovers".

[maxxoccupancy]

That was my thought, also.  The whole point of concentrating lots of liberty activists in one small area is to create a big impact in that area.  A few activists can convince a lot more people in one small area to make a change than they could trying to reach 300 million.  We represent a small swing voting block, but we also represent a disproportionate number of ready activists in New Hampshire.

We are also having a good impact mobilizing liberty types in the state, promoting proliberty candidates, encouraging non-freestaters to move in, and lobbying our school boards, state legislature, and city governments.  When bad elected officials see us again and again, attending these meetings, they get scared.  They know that their reelection is at risk because some of our people are better known and trusted than the elected officials themselves.

[Russell Kanning]

How about joining us in Keene Max? We are revved up and are hitting them on multiple fronts. I think I know 3 guys running for mayor now.

[Transition Force]

I thought the FTP wanted to secede as well, but if not... that's cool - it makes it a little easier for me to want to get involved with it

[Russell Kanning]

You can create your own free town project and make it what you want.

[maxxoccupancy]

How about joining us in Keene Max? We are revved up and are hitting them on multiple fronts. I think I know 3 guys running for mayor now.

Will you vote for any of them?  I'm involved in Manchester at the moment, because it has become a major hub of political activism.  Keene is a hub of throwing water balloons at federal buildings.  Holding a totem at the polls during an off year primary is not as exciting as burning the UN flag, but it makes a difference.

The establishment doesn't really care about what you think.  They don't care if you believe in personal freedom, economic freedom, or both.  They don't care about the truth, the Constitution, or how many peaceful people are serving time for things they didn't do, or for crimes that don't deserve imprisonment.

The only thing they care about is getting their own members reelected and reappointed.

They DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

[CNHT]

Our best bet is to bring in the VT freedom lovers to NH. It should be easy as they don't have to move very far. Make it happen.

I don't think we want more socialists! Tell them to stay in Vermont please, thank you very much! @#$!#!@#$

[CNHT]

Keene is a hub of throwing water balloons at federal buildings.
They DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

Max is right. While Rome burns, Keene is fiddling.

Here is what is happening in NH as we are being onslaught from Vermont, Mass and Maine and New York. It's time to get real and starting doing things to HELP NH... period.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Mike+Murray%3A+Will
+New+Hampshire+finally+become+just+like+its+neighbors%
3F&articleId=07ceeaa9-0882-4422-80ea-03ea377b1c73

Mike Murray: Will New Hampshire finally become just like its neighbors?
By MIKE MURRAY


A MOMENT of truth approaches New Hampshire. Already isolated by our
neighbors who have all gone the way of high taxes, decreasing freedom
and domination by the money-obsessed left, New Hampshire must decide
over the next months whether to remain free and independent or morph
happily into just another New England post-industrial relic.

The Legislature and executive branch, by ceding the intellectual
argument to the Supreme Court and accepting its premise that money is
the keystone to equality of opportunity in education, have put New
Hampshire in jeopardy of losing its economic and cultural
exceptionalism. For years the Legislature has played this word game
with the court, which is folly and very poor representation.

Our legislators are there to be our voice in Concord. Not for a
second do I think that citizens would accept the court threatening to
appoint its own "special master," yet the Legislature has accepted
this and waits for the court to fix a problem of its own making by
taking control of the largest state expenditure without any
constitutional basis or expertise for doing so. Who would play a
semantics game with the court and risk the economy of an entire state?

When examining the economics of education, not for a second do I
believe that citizens would think that throwing money at an already
well-financed educational system would fix the educational challenges
we face. I know zero parents who think money is the key to
curriculum, discipline, passionate teachers, accountability and
appropriate diligence on the part of parents. Yet the legislators
have accepted this rule.

The data are abundantly clear that spending does not relate to
outcomes in education, so why has the Legislature accepted this
notion so readily? Don't they know that higher spending does not, in
any example I can find anywhere, promote better education? Is this
such a foreign and hard-to-grasp concept? Why does the District of
Columbia, which spends more than $20,000 per student, have such
terrible schools? Does anyone think spending $40,000 is the answer?
Evidently the Legislature thinks the court knows something about
education that no one else does.

The court has clearly gone into the arena of policy-making when it
takes the following language and turns it into the present crisis:
"it shall be the duty of the legislators and magistrates, in all
future periods of this government, to cherish the interest of
literature and the sciences, and all seminaries and public schools. . ."

My question is will this Legislature and governor be responsible for
kowtowing to the court and be responsible, out of negligence to their
constituents and duty, for letting the court throw New Hampshire out
of its exceptional status into the morass and economic malaise of
other high-tax states?

Will this Legislature be responsible for losing all of the economic
advantages that come along with no income or sales tax? Will this
Legislature be responsible for causing the chaos and economic
hardship they consider now through their inaction and impotence, all
in the name of accepting the gamble that five judges are wise enough
to know the unknowable and that the relationship between spending
dollars and good education actually exists even though no evidence
can be found anywhere to support this radical theory?

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What will YOU do to help? Max has already helped more than most, even though he is not around due to work from time to time.

[PinoX7]

Well ive been thinking about freeing Jaffrey, been spreading the word, but it seems like people do not care.  All they care about is the 'now', going to work and such.