Dada in Federal Court 7/17 .... leads to 4 days in jail

[KBCraig]

If anyone would like to get me the contact information and what not that I need to file an appeal that would be appreciated.  I could use some help guiding me through the process and/or filing paperwork.

Take the information Spencer provided, and call the U.S. Public Defender in Concord, at 226-7360. This is a branch office of the MA public defender, so it might not be staffed full time.

Second option: call the clerk of the court at 225-1423, and explain that you'd like to file a Rule 33 motion and need information on how to do so. Be sure to explain that it's for "other reasons", and you're on a 7 day deadline.

[Tom Sawyer]

Have Bill be your counsel he lives right in Concord.
Or do you only critique, Bill?

[Kat Kanning]

Bill who?  Bill Grennon you mean?

[Tom Sawyer]

Bill who?  Bill Grennon you mean?

Yes... if he wants to be our leader he is going to have to start performing.

[Kat Kanning]

He wants to be leader?  I could make him El Presidente II.

[Tom Sawyer]

He wants to be leader?  I could make him El Presidente II.

Whenever the authorities ask me "who is the group leader?" My new answer is Bill Grennon.

[Kat Kanning]

Oh, that's a good idea.  Can we get Bill's phone number and address to give them?

[Tom Sawyer]

While you guys have been traveling across America there are coup attempts.
http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=6028.msg105482#msg105482

[Kat Kanning]

Maybe once he's El Presidente II, people will "do what he says".  Poor Bill, he's been so mistreated.

[Tom Sawyer]

Maybe once he's El Presidente II, people will "do what he says".  Poor Bill, he's been so mistreated.

El Presidente II: Just when you thought it was safe to go back to the forum.

[FrankChodorov]

Have Bill be your counsel he lives right in Concord.
Or do you only critique, Bill?

how can I help when Dada and others have me on ignore?

he has no case...Russell and Lauren don't argue the merits of their cases (they have no cases either) they simply don't recognize the legal and moral authority of the court.

so if Dada takes that route he will be trading off his freedom for $125 while sitting in jail...freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.

this is why I call these folks "emotive anarchists" - they have no idea how to articulate a viable strategy to get to a viable society based on EQUAL liberty.

[Dave Ridley]

I have called the clerk's office and received what were to me fairly indecipherable instructions regarding the rule 33 retrial motion.  I am in completely over my head and would just make a mistake if I tried to write up the motion myself. 

However if someone here will provide me with more specific information how to file a rule 33 motion in this situation and write the thing up, and send it to me for me to sign between now and tomorrow I would likely be willing to fax it to them or what not with my sig.   same goes for an appeal, altho in that case there is presumably more time to work with and I may look into that some myself.  You handle the details if you want, I'll be happy to provide a signature and verbally spar with the bad guys.   I am not going to jump through a lot of federal paperwork hoops , or engage in significant expense, or go far out of my way to fight in court.  my fight is on the streets.  their court system is designed to dissipate and absorb legal efforts, altho if you don't expend much effort on it then I think showing up and quoting the constituion can be useful.

I have more effective ways to fight for liberty than that, but if someone here is into that sort of thing and wants to do the bulk of the paperwork, I'm likely willing to provide the signature and the sympathetic defendant.

[FrankChodorov]

However if someone here will provide me with more specific information how to file a rule 33 motion in this situation and write the thing up, and send it to me for me to sign between now and tomorrow I would be willing to fax it to them or what not with my sig.

a rule 33 motion grants a new trial based on "other grounds" or when new evidence is discovered.

Spencer suggested it based on his understanding that you were in the lobby not the actual offices of the IRS...even if you were in the lobby he cited the wrong rule as to how apply for a permit to use the lobby for other business then what it was intended.

therefore there is no basis for a rule 33 motion...

no charge for the free legal advice!

[Russell Kanning]

dada ... takin' it to the streets

maybe bill grennon can be a witness for the government

[Pat McCotter]

However if someone here will provide me with more specific information how to file a rule 33 motion in this situation and write the thing up, and send it to me for me to sign between now and tomorrow I would be willing to fax it to them or what not with my sig.

a rule 33 motion grants a new trial based on "other grounds" or when new evidence is discovered.

Spencer suggested it based on his understanding that you were in the lobby not the actual offices of the IRS...even if you were in the lobby he cited the wrong rule as to how apply for a permit to use the lobby for other business then what it was intended.

therefore there is no basis for a rule 33 motion...

no charge for the free legal advice!

Worth everything he paid for it!