Dada in Federal Court 7/17 .... leads to 4 days in jail

[Pat K]

Hey Billy... maybe you and Richie

First a racist insult, then a demeaning nickname.  Very nice.

If the only people who are allowed to post are those who march lock step with the party line, then the "Free" in NHFree is just a pretence.

Seems like you can post here just fine, Richie, but that does not mean
some folk won't make fun of you.

Maybe you can find or sponsor a law against it.

[shyfrog]

A new mantra for the letter of the law types

"I'm not lock-stepping to the beat of freedom. I'm lock-stepping to the steady drum of the LAW."

[LordBaltimore]

"I'm not lock-stepping to the beat of freedom. I'm lock-stepping to the steady drum of the LAW."

And some of us individual types don't feel the need to lockstep with any group at all.

[Tom Sawyer]

We need to give Richie a break he lives in a police state... MD, where the state police love to tear apart cars on the side of 95.

[LordBaltimore]

You moving to NH "Uncle Tom" Richie? 

Do you feel that repeating a racist insult somehow makes it better?

[Caleb]

(c) Distributing materials, such as pamphlets, handbills or flyers, unless conducted as part of authorized Government activities.

Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but wouldn't exercising your first amendment rights be included in "authorized government activities"?

[Caleb]

Has anyone who's called the jail found out what date/time Dave will be released?

I asked, but was told that he was not permitted to release that information.

[slim]

Has anyone who's called the jail found out what date/time Dave will be released?

I asked, but was told that he was not permitted to release that information.

So the kidnappers won't tell you when he will be released. I guess they have not got the ransom money yet.

[Caleb]

The point is not to overturn stupid statutes about distribution of handbills, it was to draw attention to the fact that the IRS does evil things to fund evil government programs.

That is why Dave's action was ineffective. Did he even know what law he would be breaking before his non-violent, civil disobedience action? He seemed to think he was petitioning officials at the IRS for a redress of grievances which is in the bill of rights as amendments to the constitution.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I'm not sure what part of "Congress shall MAKE NO FUCKING LAW" you don't understand ethan. NO LAW! None. They can't say, "well, you must petition certain people" or "you must go to certain areas to petition" or "you have to mail it in, you can't  do it in person" or "it must be in this certain format."  CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING ... THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE ... TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES!!!!!

Hope that clarified for you, so you'll quit with the ridiculous parroting of rules, regulations, and philosophical mumbo jumbo when the government's compact clearly says that they cannot regulate this right in any way whatsoever.

[Caleb]

"I'm not lock-stepping to the beat of freedom. I'm lock-stepping to the steady drum of the LAW."

And some of us individual types don't feel the need to lockstep with any group at all.

And yet you parrot the government line as a matter of course. How free can you be when you're mind is enslaved to the federal government?

[Caleb]

Has anyone who's called the jail found out what date/time Dave will be released?

I asked, but was told that he was not permitted to release that information.

So the kidnappers won't tell you when he will be released. I guess they have not got the ransom money yet.

yeah, they hide behind the "we're protecting the inmate's privacy" crap

[shyfrog]

The Spirit of Liberty is alive and well among the Sons of Liberty in NH

Free Dave Ridley

[EthanAllen]

They can't say, "well, you must petition certain people" or "you must go to certain areas to petition" or "you have to mail it in, you can't  do it in person" or "it must be in this certain format."

They don't say you must petition certain people.

You can't petition on private property without consent of the owner. You must petition where you have a common right of way because that is where our common rights derive.

You can petition local, state, and federal governments & courts in person or mail it.

There is a difference between a handbill and a petition. A petition has to be made to our elected representatives who make the laws or judges. Not to federal employees. Otherwise you could in essence shut them down by continual petitioning.

The Courts have routinely held that First Amendment rights may be limited so as to protect the rights of others (e.g. libel, privacy), or to guard against subversion of the government and the spreading of dissension in wartime. Thus, the Court's majority has remained firm – the First Amendment rights are not absolute.

[error]

And of course, the Courts are the final arbiter of what is right and wrong. -1 for you.

[EthanAllen]

And of course, the Courts are the final arbiter of what is right and wrong.

We are a system of laws and not of men.