Nominations for the next silent demonstration?

[FrankChodorov]

it's interesting how difficult it's been to find anyone else around here who even knows who to blame for the view tax.

maybe because there is no one to blame...a location's view has always been included in the property tax on the assessed value of the land.

it has only been recently when they have tried to more uniformly & systematically apply it that they have broken it out as a seperate item to assess...

[CNHT]

going to perp offices connected to the view tax.  I've identified two of those so far, but it's interesting how difficutl it's been to find anyone else around here who even knows who to blame for the view tax.  Jane seems to be the only one who could come up with a name or a bureaucracy to point at.

This is FUCKING GORGEOUS. NH residents have been burned by the view tax many times and when it burns 'em, they feel that pain for as long time

Ed Naile is the walking, breathing database of tax offences by the NH gubamint. Jane, Ed, and folks like Bob Kingsbury are the people who know all about this stuff, and it's no coincidence they're all on the Board of the CNHT.

Thanks sweetie. No one gets as sick as I have apparently from NOT WORKING HARD 24/7, 365/yr.
It's amazing I have to take so much sheeeeyit in the meanwhile.
I know who my friends are anyway.

Bill, some poor dirt farmer gets absolutely NO VALUE ADDED whether he has a freakin' VIEW OR NOT. Therefore, views should NOT BE TAXED. PERIOD.
And views can change. Someone just built two homes across the street from me, in a hole and ruined my privacy. Should my taxes now go down?

[CNHT]

going to perp offices connected to the view tax.  I've identified two of those so far, but it's interesting how difficutl it's been to find anyone else around here who even knows who to blame for the view tax.  Jane seems to be the only one who could come up with a name or a bureaucracy to point at.

This is FUCKING GORGEOUS. NH residents have been burned by the view tax many times and when it burns 'em, they feel that pain for as long time

Ed Naile is the walking, breathing database of tax offences by the NH gubamint. Jane, Ed, and folks like Bob Kingsbury are the people who know all about this stuff, and it's no coincidence they're all on the Board of the CNHT.

Ooops and don't forget Howie, a NH treasure and walking encyclopedia of who's who and what's what in local and state gubmint. We have other talented people on our board and many 'insiders' as well.

[CNHT]

This is FUCKING GORGEOUS. NH residents have been burned by the view tax many times and when it burns 'em, they feel that pain for as long time

Ed Naile is the walking, breathing database of tax offences by the NH gubamint. Jane, Ed, and folks like Bob Kingsbury are the people who know all about this stuff, and it's no coincidence they're all on the Board of the CNHT.

And not to beat a dead horse about the view tax issue which is posted on the PROTEST THIS thread, I still say there are PLENTY of things to protest and people to help right here in NH without MANUFACTURING ANYTHING NEW. If all you like to do is hold a sign or hand out flyers, fine, but do it where it counts the most.

Some of us will be in there defending people or forcing the meetings to address the view tax which is what I think the writer of that letter wanted to do, since Governor Tommy Thomson's son the farmer, had no luck forcing the issue in the past.

Charity begins at home folks. Let's give help where help is needed, right here in NH, for NH issues.

I have to take a long R & R due to the illness that I think has been caused in part by my workaholism and wild social lifestyle and never taking time for myself to like, um, sleep.

[FrankChodorov]

some poor dirt farmer gets absolutely NO VALUE ADDED whether he has a freakin' VIEW OR NOT. Therefore, views should NOT BE TAXED. PERIOD

you are once again confusing personal utility value and market value - there is always the "current use" program.

[David]

Taxes, my friends, are theft and extortion, period.  Is a lower tax better than a higher tax?  Yes.  But I do not agree to pay for the things that others want to buy.  It is wrong to take from one person, forcibly or with the threat of force, and give to anyone else as charity or as paychecks. 
This is akin to buying me a Cadillac, then trying to force me to pay for it. 
I can delegate someone to protect me from others, but I cannot delegate someone to tax or regulate other because I do not have the right to do that to anyone. 

[CNHT]

Taxes, my friends, are theft and extortion, period.  Is a lower tax better than a higher tax?  Yes.  But I do not agree to pay for the things that others want to buy.  It is wrong to take from one person, forcibly or with the threat of force, and give to anyone else as charity or as paychecks. 
This is akin to buying me a Cadillac, then trying to force me to pay for it. 
I can delegate someone to protect me from others, but I cannot delegate someone to tax or regulate other because I do not have the right to do that to anyone. 

Well said, my friend. You have to start somewhere and that is to lop off the frivolous, not needed, and overly ambitious taxation schemes they can dream up!

[FrankChodorov]

Taxes, my friends, are theft and extortion, period.  Is a lower tax better than a higher tax?  Yes.  But I do not agree to pay for the things that others want to buy.  It is wrong to take from one person, forcibly or with the threat of force, and give to anyone else as charity or as paychecks. 
This is akin to buying me a Cadillac, then trying to force me to pay for it. 
I can delegate someone to protect me from others, but I cannot delegate someone to tax or regulate other because I do not have the right to do that to anyone. 

according to natural law - the private enclosure of land creates a legal and monetaary obligation on those you exclude that is nothing more than a tax on their wages violating their absolute right to self-ownership.

so rather than being theft or extortion, the equal and direct sharing of economic rent between neighbors you are excluding in a community actually PREVENTS a theft by UPHOLDING their absolute right to the fruits of their labor and thus self-ownership themselves.

the landowner's absolute right to the fruits of their labor are intact.

1. they don't produce the land via their labor
2. they don't create the unimproved land values (economic rent) with their labor
3. in a economic rent sharing scenario, there would be no purchase price for land.

where exactly is the "theft" from the landowner occurring?

[Russell Kanning]

my 2 cents:
The view tax cannot be demonstrated against because some Rs will agree with you, some Ds will oppose you, some of us without views feel slighted, those it hobbit holes seek to raise the view tax, and BillG will give a lecture series on view taxes.

Boy .... these silent demos really seem to do the trick. The government shows how evil they are by opposing even a silent protester who may or may not have any "rights" to be there (depending on who you ask).

[CNHT]

my 2 cents:
The view tax cannot be demonstrated against because some Rs will agree with you, some Ds will oppose you, some of us without views feel slighted, those it hobbit holes seek to raise the view tax, and BillG will give a lecture series on view taxes.

Boy .... these silent demos really seem to do the trick. The government shows how evil they are by opposing even a silent protester who may or may not have any "rights" to be there (depending on who you ask).

Welll it's no different than any other issue...you will certainly slight someone in the process no matter what it's about.
If you can't stop the collection of taxes caused by the spending of the government, you've got to start somewhere.
As for lectures on socialistic style taxes from Frank, he is on ignore so that doesn't bother me.

It's a shame we have 45 foreclosures in our towna alone, due to not being able to pay property taxes.

[FrankChodorov]

As for lectures on socialistic style taxes from Frank, he is on ignore so that doesn't bother me.

socialism is the state ownership (collective) of the means of production (land, labor, capital) and thus the return on those means too.

1. return on land is economic rent
2. return on labor is wages
3. return on capital is profit/interest

I advocate private ownership of the means of production (land, labor, capital) and the return on labor and capital to the individual owners of such but that the return on land be owned in common as an individual equal access opportunity right inorder to assure that the owner of wages are absolute as labor is the basis of property rights.

[CNHT]

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[Russell Kanning]

It's a shame we have 45 foreclosures in our towna alone, due to not being able to pay property taxes.

Have you introduced these people to Lauren Canario?

[CNHT]

It's a shame we have 45 foreclosures in our towna alone, due to not being able to pay property taxes.

Have you introduced these people to Lauren Canario?

Well they are not being taken by ED, just that the owners cannot pay the high taxes/mortgage which in part is probably due to overextension I imagine. I don't know what the situations are or how that would help.

[Russell Kanning]

OK ... have they thought of telling the government "no"?