• Welcome to New Hampshire Underground.
 

News:

Please log in on the special "login" page, not on any of these normal pages. Thank you, The Procrastinating Management

"Let them march all they want, as long as they pay their taxes."  --Alexander Haig

Main Menu

1984 may be coming to Manchester School District busses

Started by Rosie the Riveter, October 12, 2006, 01:49 PM NHFT

Previous topic - Next topic

CNHT

Quote from: MaineShark on October 14, 2006, 07:10 AM NHFT
Seriously, Jane, who is your supplier.  Inquiring minds want to know.

I think that is rather insensitive statement considering what I am going through right now...


These are minors who we are talking about on the bus, not adults. If you are going to give the task of protecting your kids over to the public schools for the day, which they will want to do to protect themselves from being sued, then you will have to subject yourself to their methods of protection.

But many of you seem like you are still in highschool yourselves, and still in anti-authoritarian-rebellion mode, just against any authority no matter, just for the sake of it and it doesn't make sense.
There are bigger fish to fry...why concern yourself with the petty?
You also seem like the type who would be the first to sue the school if anything happened to your kid....

Believe me, if your kid was NOT helping to tip the bus over you'd be furious if they were going to be punished en masse just because the perpertrators could not be picked out from all of them.

FTL_Ian

"Authority" is always invalid unless voluntarily chosen.

Also, it is not "petty" to fight to protect children from the surveillance society.

CNHT

Quote from: FTL_Ian on October 15, 2006, 06:03 PM NHFT
"Authority" is always invalid unless voluntarily chosen.

Also, it is not "petty" to fight to protect children from the surveillance society.

I can't imagine what you'd think a film of kids sitting on a bus for 20 minutes, if uneventful, could be used for otherwise? Or is it really that you want to protect your kid from punishment if he/she does something bad, just because you are against whatever rule it is that they may have broken?

And in light of all the other battles you could be helping with, such as helping to get good people elected, support in two or three NH eminent domain cases, educating people on the threat to the right to know law, rampant voter fraud evidence being withheld from the collectors, and now the income tax/sales tax threat thanks to judicial activism, yes it is rather small fish. 

FTL_Ian

So, you know, I don't have kids and I still care about this issue.  Thanks for your suggestions, but your pleadings are not likely to persuade those of us who find the surveillance state a dangerous threat to Liberty.

How about you go fight for the issues that are important to you, and we'll all do the same for ourselves. 

CNHT

Quote from: FTL_Ian on October 15, 2006, 06:17 PM NHFT
So, you know, I don't have kids and I still care about this issue.  Thanks for your suggestions, but your pleadings are not likely to persuade those of us who find the surveillance state a dangerous threat to Liberty.

How about you go fight for the issues that are important to you, and we'll all do the same for ourselves. 

Your only issue seems to be self-aggrandizement while not really helping anyone or anything.

MaineShark

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 04:42 PM NHFT
Quote from: MaineShark on October 14, 2006, 07:10 AM NHFTSeriously, Jane, who is your supplier.  Inquiring minds want to know.
I think that is rather insensitive statement considering what I am going through right now...

I don?t keep track of what?s going on in your life, nor do I particularly care.  Your behavior here is inexcusable in any adult.

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 04:42 PM NHFTThese are minors who we are talking about on the bus, not adults. If you are going to give the task of protecting your kids over to the public schools for the day, which they will want to do to protect themselves from being sued, then you will have to subject yourself to their methods of protection.

Ye gods, you sound like Bush and his cadre.  I mean, exactly like them.

I suppose I shouldn?t complain about the nonsense the TSA pulls, huh?::)

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 04:42 PM NHFTBut many of you seem like you are still in highschool yourselves, and still in anti-authoritarian-rebellion mode, just against any authority no matter, just for the sake of it and it doesn't make sense.
There are bigger fish to fry...why concern yourself with the petty?

Ever heard the old story about boiling a frog?

It?s the small pebbles that start the landslide.

But I think you actually want the landslide.  You get off on the whole ?David and Goliath? thing, and that?s why you so adamantly oppose anyone who would fix things before they reach that point.

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 04:42 PM NHFTYou also seem like the type who would be the first to sue the school if anything happened to your kid....

Based on what, precisely?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 04:42 PM NHFTBelieve me, if your kid was NOT helping to tip the bus over you'd be furious if they were going to be punished en masse just because the perpertrators could not be picked out from all of them.

Yes, I would.  My child would never be there in the first place.

And I would be there protesting against them doing it to someone else?s child, either.  Especially considering they?d be doing it with the proceeds of their muggings of the populace.  If someone wants to put their child in that sort of place, let them do it with their own money.

Joe

Rosie the Riveter

Quote from: FTL_Ian on October 15, 2006, 06:03 PM NHFT
"Authority" is always invalid unless voluntarily chosen.

Also, it is not "petty" to fight to protect children from the surveillance society.

Thank you Ian -- I agree  :icon_thumright:

Rosie the Riveter

Quote from: CNHT on October 15, 2006, 06:14 PM NHFT
And in light of all the other battles you could be helping with, such as helping to get good people elected, support in two or three NH eminent domain cases, educating people on the threat to the right to know law, rampant voter fraud evidence being withheld from the collectors, and now the income tax/sales tax threat thanks to judicial activism, yes it is rather small fish. 

We are all entitled to our own "small fish" issues.

Small fish activism is better than none.


MaineShark

Quote from: castle_chaser on October 15, 2006, 09:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on October 15, 2006, 06:03 PM NHFT"Authority" is always invalid unless voluntarily chosen.

Also, it is not "petty" to fight to protect children from the surveillance society.
Thank you Ian -- I agree  :icon_thumright:

Don't agree with Ian.  He's just aggrandizing himself! ::)

Joe

Dave Ridley

To complain about this you can wrote the MTA via

http://www.mtabus.org/contact.cfm

Here's the note I just sent:

Just wanted to express my disapproval of your plan to spend what I assume will be taxpayer dollars on school bus cams.   

Also I don't like the idea of you making our young folks ever more comfortable with the idea of being videotaped by their government.

Please pass this e-mail up the chain; thanks for reading it and for making this feedback option available.