POT LEGALIZATION 2007

[lordmetroid]

I'm interested in how the NH state liqour stores compare to the Swedish state liqour stores, because the Swedish ones are pretty damn shitty. I recently turned 20, which is the age limit at the swedish liqour stores, so I've been having my first experiences with them over the past weeks. The selection is good, but everything else is just... Well the purpose of the state liqour stores is to get people to drink less, so the stores are purposefully bad to get people to not want to shop there and thus get the nation to drink less (doesn't work obviously).

While true it's a government corporation that sells us the Swedes strong alcoholic beverages for over-price. The selection at this company is vastly better than the ones my uncle who lives in New York experiences. In my opinion and the service and information regarding the liquor are from my experience not at all lacking. While the purpose of the monopoly can be debated it does bring more capital back to the state. The state can tax liquor at any rate even if it wasn't a monopoly but they would loose the profits. The prices are fair although expensive to deter people from buying too much which because it's a social state would damage the taxpayers due to the medical bill and other social costs. And they are fair because if they would be to high people would not be buying. Which is somewhat a problem as moon-shine and imports are becomming more and more common.

I am for a regulation of addictive substances because they will make people loose control and damage my assets or my health.

[Dreepa]

I am for a regulation of addictive substances because they will make people loose control and damage my assets or my health.

What about the ones who don't lose control?  Should they be penalized?

Some people lose control and eat too much should that be regulated?

[traveler]

Alcohol is addictive.Marijuana is not.WTF?

[Fluff and Stuff]

I am for a regulation of addictive substances because they will make people loose control and damage my assets or my health.

Most addictive substances are legal and regulated so you have what you want.  However, something being addictive and something making people have less control of their body and act dangerously are not related.  For example, beer is not addictive for the vast majority of people but it enables a small amount of people to act dangerously when they would not otherwise act in such a way.  Coffee, on the other hand, is addictive to the majority of people but doesn't make people lose control.  Many pain pills are addictive but do not make lose control.  Your arguement seems to have no substance.

[maxxoccupancy]

Prohibition doesn't work, whether it's alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, cocaine, firearms, heroine, or the Protocols of Zion.  People still get access to whatever they want.  Prohibition only ensures that scofflaws and desperate men will supply the substance in question.

--Max

[FTL_Ian]

Damn Denis, are you STILL having trouble recruiting someone?

Here's a secret:

90%+ of restaurant staff smoke pot.

An even larger percentage of pizza delivery places are pot smokers.

Now you just have to figure out how to get one of them to admit to it.

[Spencer]

Damn Denis, are you STILL having trouble recruiting someone?

Here's a secret:

90%+ of restaurant staff smoke pot.

An even larger percentage of pizza delivery places are pot smokers.

Now you just have to figure out how to get one of them to admit to it.

You mean that's not just oregano they're always carrying around?

[d_goddard]

Brief update:

This is one of the several issues that are actually improved by the presence of our new Democrat legislature.
After talking to Phil, veteran NH MJ reform advocate, I'm no longer in such a rush.

Welch still has his seat, thank god, though who knows if he'll still be chair of that particular committee.

We need to spend the next year carefully observing the new legislature. Figuring out who are our allies on this, who is willing to give legalization a shot, who is sitting on the fence, and who is going to oppose the idea no matter what.

Only once we know that can we have a real shot at winning.

We're also going to need MANY, MANY grassroots activists (yeah, pun intended). We need people in virtually every single district who know their Representatives and Senator, and who have taken the time to chat with them personally and not about this issue, so that when the issue does come up, they'll be hearing from known, valued constituents (even ones that didn't vote for them).

And yes we are going to need more people taking NHLA training, watching the State House.

[mvpel]

I wonder if it would be more palatable to the mass of legislators if it were set up through the state liquor stores which already check IDs, and taxed as a new source of revenue, rather than making it less illegal than alcohol.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Sounds like acceptable incrimentalism to me, as long it doesn't cost more than cigarettes.  It cost a lot less to produce.

[Dreepa]

2007 goal should probably just to decriminalize. Make it at least the same as the 'better' states in regards to NH.

I really don't see the State of NH selling pot within the next 3-5 years.

[Raineyrocks]

Damn Denis, are you STILL having trouble recruiting someone?

Here's a secret:

90%+ of restaurant staff smoke pot.

An even larger percentage of pizza delivery places are pot smokers.

Now you just have to figure out how to get one of them to admit to it.

You mean that's not just oregano they're always carrying around?

I remember when I was a teenager and just started driving and me and my friends would pull up to a fast food drive thru and get the cashier guys stoned all the time. They would just bend down at the window and take hits. I worked at Dunkin Donuts when I was younger and I wish a car load of people would've offered me some. It's tough dealing with customers all day, I loved floating through the work day!  Half the time I was so stoned if people we're yelling at me for something I didn't even hear or understand them and it used to piss them off even more.  Yeah, the good old days before they installed cameras all over! 

[FTL_Ian]

I wonder if it would be more palatable to the mass of legislators if it were set up through the state liquor stores which already check IDs, and taxed as a new source of revenue, rather than making it less illegal than alcohol.

Screw that.  Those stores need to go away, no need to suggest they get more powerful.

[TEBON]

We could try to work out deals between pro-marijuana Democrats and pro-gun Republicans to get them to compromise and repeal both marijuana laws and gun laws.

They'd probably comprimise to tell us to screw off

maybe we'd have to end their freedom to walk upright.

[TEBON]

They should try legalizing ALCOHOL first, and ending the unconstitutional state monopoly on liquor.

After reading and learning about this issue its nowhere near as big as it seems. State taxation and control of liquor stores in other states is extremely strict.

especially when "liberal" states like MA won't even let you sell it in half the places.  Corruption is the answer, and MA loves its corruption.  I'd rather have NH keep the liquor in the state run liquor stores (where EVERYONE wants to go from MA and ME) than have good ole boys in MA, brothers of the Police Chief, etc owning their monopoly on blue law loving liquor stores.  MA is a joke, again, and for a progressive state they sure can't get weed decriminalized or alcohol sold in convenience stores.

I'm surrounded by retards down here