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Started by Troll, March 16, 2005, 02:56 PM NHFT

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Hello people.  I'm a public school teacher in Manchester.  How can you people be against the public school?!  We sweat and work our fingers to the bone for your children.  We produce some of the best educated graduates in the country.  Our society cannot survive without an educated populace, so it up to the government to provide that education.  Something so important cannot be left to chance.

Lloyd Danforth

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Welcome.
Most of us believe that the market will supply all that is neccessary and do a better job of it than any government organization can.
Public schools teach children love of government and how to be? good, taxpaying citizens, never questioning their leaders.
If you look at most of the National Bee's, that, students participate in, you will find, that, more and more, it is the home schooled students that are wining. If in fact, you do produce the best educated graduates in the country, it is because the standards and expectations have been falling for years.? How do you explain graduating students who can not read?? Other than enough math to function in the world, all students need is to be able to read.? They can learn on their own after they graduate, as many of have had to do.
We all suffer from expensive, bloated, ineffecient local, state and National government, largely, because of a publically educated populace.
Food and shelter is more important than education. How do you explain why we are not all starving, leaving neccessities such as those to the market?

FTL_Ian

Wow.. what a creative username, "Troll"!

AlanM

Quote from: Troll on March 16, 2005, 02:56 PM NHFT
Hello people.? I'm a public school teacher in Manchester.? How can you people be against the public school?!? We sweat and work our fingers to the bone for your children.? We produce some of the best educated graduates in the country.? Our society cannot survive without an educated populace, so it up to the government to provide that education.? Something so important cannot be left to chance.

Don't you really mean, "Something so important cannot be left to choice? Public schools, including teachers are very arrogant in their assumption that THEY are the only ones capable of educating children. I know, I have a sister who is a teacher in a public school.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: AlanM on March 16, 2005, 09:42 PM NHFT
I have a sister who is a teacher in a public school.

Sorry about that Alan.  While I don't have a teacher in my family, I am, sigh, related to a lawyer.

Kat Kanning

You poor dears...a teacher and a lawyer.

Both the teachers in my family gave me crap about my homeschooling.  Hopefully soon that Manchester prison guard "teacher" will be out of a job and doing real work, rather than brainwashing our children.

GT

Quote from: Troll on March 16, 2005, 02:56 PM NHFT
Hello people.? I'm a public school teacher in Manchester.? How can you people be against the public school?!? We sweat and work our fingers to the bone for your children.? We produce some of the best educated graduates in the country.? Our society cannot survive without an educated populace, so it up to the government to provide that education.? Something so important cannot be left to chance.

If it just all about education why are so many teachers and unions opposed to home schooling? If a child can get an education at home in less time for less money what's the problem? I've got two kids in public schools, while I won't make a blanket statement, I'm not seeing the educational value. A lot of schools have become nothing more than fiercly defended revenue sources. Take a look at some of the line items on the school budgets. The waste is unbeleivable.

Our town built a new addition to our High school a few years ago. It cost around 10-12 million. This year they put another $80,000 in the budget for a back-up generator for the High School gym. The reasoning was that in the event of a diaster the town could take shelter in the gym. The town has a population of approx 23,000. I don't think we would all fit!

But next year the power won't go out during the basketball game.....Oh, and my daughters spelling book is in such bad shape that the pages keep falling out, but the lights will stay on during the basketball games.

AlanM

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 17, 2005, 07:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: AlanM on March 16, 2005, 09:42 PM NHFT
I have a sister who is a teacher in a public school.

Sorry about that Alan.? While I don't have a teacher in my family, I am, sigh, related to a lawyer.


Thanks Kat. My mother was a teacher too. At least my mother refused to join the NEA. She objected to them taking NEA dues out of her paycheck, but couldn't do anything about it, short of quitting.
Both of them were/are good teachers. I learned how to read and due math from them, before I went to public schools. My sister is very arrogant, however, about the supreme primacy of public education. She just doesn't get it.

AlanM

Welcome Blefuscu! Glad to have you on board. NH is smaller than Texas, but bigger on freedom!  ;D

AlanM

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 17, 2005, 07:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: AlanM on March 16, 2005, 09:42 PM NHFT
I have a sister who is a teacher in a public school.

Sorry about that Alan.? While I don't have a teacher in my family, I am, sigh, related to a lawyer.


Lloyd, I have a cousin who is a PUBLIC DEFENDER!  :o

Kat Kanning

Oh man, the skeletons are coming out of the closet now  :o

AlanM

I cannot deny it, I once, no twice, lusted in my heart............... :-X

Lloyd Danforth


Blefuscu

Quote from: AlanM on March 17, 2005, 08:48 AM NHFT
Welcome Blefuscu! Glad to have you on board. NH is smaller than Texas, but bigger on freedom!  ;D

Thank you, Alan. 

Yes, Texas is big, and because of that, the odds of pushing the state in the direction of greater liberty is about like the odds of winning the Texas lottery.  I long for greater freedom and the greater measure of it to be had in NH.   

Hi Kat!!! 

Skip.

Russell Kanning

Ouch Troll already got smitted.......Lloyd must have the fastest trigger finger in the East ;D