Al loses land

[FrankChodorov]

The Supreme Court has to hear the case by law.  It is a 13 grand (stand) snowball's chance in hell but what else do you have if you don't fight to the end for your property.

well why don' you get 13 FSP members to kick in a grand a piece to test it?

remember the land was underwater and he was speculating that it would be drained when the dam lease was up so that it could be built on.

[Russell Kanning]

the system loves it when you fight them to "the end" in their courts. It ends the way they want and you acknowledge the system and fund it.

[FrankChodorov]

the system loves it when you fight them to "the end" in their courts. It ends the way they want and you acknowledge the system and fund it.

what will Dada do - pay the fine or spend time in jail?

[Kevin Bean]

You don't own anything. For example the steel in your car was stolen from Gaia the earth goddess.

[FrankChodorov]

You don't own anything. For example the steel in your car was stolen from Gaia the earth goddess.

not if you leave enough and as good in common for others it isn't...

[Michael Fisher]

You don't own anything. For example the steel in your car was stolen from Gaia the earth goddess.

ROFL

[Michael Fisher]

Using force to enhance the common good is justified?!?

Now I remember why almost everybody has Frank on ignore...

Who?  ???

[Lex]

Using force to enhance the common good is justified?!?
Now I remember why almost everybody has Frank on ignore...

Who?  ???

I have had him on ignore for at least 6 months... and i'm sure several others have had him longer.

Once you understand the georgist philosophy there is really no point in reading Franks comments, he simply regurgitates the same thing over and over and I can predict what he will say without having to read it.

[FrankChodorov]

Using force to enhance the common good is justified?!?
Now I remember why almost everybody has Frank on ignore...

Who?  ???

I have had him on ignore for at least 6 months... and i'm sure several others have had him longer.

Once you understand the georgist philosophy there is really no point in reading Franks comments, he simply regurgitates the same thing over and over and I can predict what he will say without having to read it.

too bad you don't understand it...

[Kat Kanning]

Using force to enhance the common good is justified?!?
Now I remember why almost everybody has Frank on ignore...

Who?  ???

I have had him on ignore for at least 6 months... and i'm sure several others have had him longer.

Once you understand the georgist philosophy there is really no point in reading Franks comments, he simply regurgitates the same thing over and over and I can predict what he will say without having to read it.

too bad you don't understand it...

I knew he would say that.

[TEBON]

Bill talk with forked tongue... 

actually the native americans would say that the white man's belief in individual ownership of land was "speaking with a forked tongue"...

I typically don't agree with you, but I listen.  I don't like burning books and silencing people I don't agree with. . . this topic I halfway agree with you. 

If it were my land, I'd go down with it.  My life is important to me, but if I'm going to be pushed around in it, to me there's no reason to go through life as a jellyfish. 

I have been confused for a long time about how indians thought of their land. . . I'd grown up in Scouting learning indian lore and learning that the land belongs to no one but the Earth, you treat it as if you are a guest on it.  At the same time I've found many contradictions with the indians claiming certain lands for their tribes and etc. 

but generally I share the attitude that after the government puts their head together and gives me the boot anyways, I'd like nothing more than to blow up the bulldozer as it comes on the grounds of my home. . . but I won't, instead I'll stand there until I'm forced off the land. . . and then it's time for the real statement to happen.

[Dreepa]

You don't own anything. For example the steel in your car was stolen from Gaia the earth goddess.

not if you leave enough and as good in common for others it isn't...

How much is enough?

[error]

Well, now, that's why we have government: to decide how much steel and land you're allowed to have, and how much economic rent you have to pay.

[FrankChodorov]

You don't own anything. For example the steel in your car was stolen from Gaia the earth goddess.

not if you leave enough and as good in common for others it isn't...

How much is enough?

the market determines that...if you have left "enough and as good" there will be no market price (purchase or rent) but if you haven't then it will have a market or rental price.

since we live in the granite state, for illustration purposes I suggest that you go to one of the outcrops in a state park break off a piece of granite with a hammer and try and sell it on the streets of Concord.

if you have left "enough and as good in common for others" then you will not be able to sell it at any price because anyone is free to do the same as you.

[FrankChodorov]

Bill talk with forked tongue... 

actually the native americans would say that the white man's belief in individual ownership of land was "speaking with a forked tongue"...

I typically don't agree with you, but I listen.  I don't like burning books and silencing people I don't agree with. . . this topic I halfway agree with you. 

If it were my land, I'd go down with it.  My life is important to me, but if I'm going to be pushed around in it, to me there's no reason to go through life as a jellyfish. 

I have been confused for a long time about how indians thought of their land. . . I'd grown up in Scouting learning indian lore and learning that the land belongs to no one but the Earth, you treat it as if you are a guest on it.  At the same time I've found many contradictions with the indians claiming certain lands for their tribes and etc. 

but generally I share the attitude that after the government puts their head together and gives me the boot anyways, I'd like nothing more than to blow up the bulldozer as it comes on the grounds of my home. . . but I won't, instead I'll stand there until I'm forced off the land. . . and then it's time for the real statement to happen.

the closest that we can come to the way the native americans viewed land without going back to hunting and gathering amongst tribes (many, many people would die if we tried) is to have a land tenure system that was designed so that no matter where anyone else chooses to exclusively use the earth you are not economically harmed by being excluded.

metaphorically it would be like being the only one on the earth free to roam anywhere - no one is impinging on your freedom.