Brit security: Strip-search everyone on the street

[KBCraig]

(See the link for some disgusting x-ray images.)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007040610,00.html

"You are undie surveillance"

OFFICIALS are bracing themselves for a storm of public outrage over their controversial X-ray cameras scheme.

As part of the most shocking extension of Big Brother powers ever planned here, lenses in lampposts would snap ?naked? pictures of passers-by to trap terror suspects.

The proposal is contained in leaked documents drawn up by the Home Office and presented to PM Tony Blair?s working group on Security, Crime and Justice.

But the prospect of the State snooping on individuals? most private parts is certain to spark national fury.

And officials are battling to find a way of dealing with that reaction.

A January 17 memo seen by The Sun discusses the cameras, which can see through clothes.

It says ?detection of weapons and explosives will become easier? and says cameras could be deployed in street furniture.

It adds: ?Some technologies used in airports have already been used as part of police operations looking for drugs and weapons in nightclubs. These and others could be developed for a much more widespread use in public spaces.

?Street furniture could routinely house detection systems that would indicate the likely presence of a gun, for example.?

But the document goes on to reveal fears at the public reaction.

Officials have agreed one solution would be to allow only women to monitor female subjects ? although they admit this would be ?very problematic? in crowds.

The memo says: ?The social acceptability of routine intrusive detection measures and the operational response required in the event of an alarm are likely to be limiting factors.

?Privacy is an issue because the machines see through clothing.?

Beside cameras, officials are also considering systems known as millimetre wave imaging and THz imaging and spectroscopy.

All are routinely used in airports and other secure places to detect explosives and weapons in luggage and on people.

Air passengers are now chosen at random for full X-ray examinations ? and must agree to it.

Technology could also be used to halt theft, with fingerprint scanners fitted to many items.

Elsewhere, tagged offenders could be sent electronic pulses to remind them not to re-offend.

Cops would also get the power to build a database of everyone in the land. Three-dimensional CCTV pictures would be coupled with records of people?s mobile phones and even their travel cards to get details of their movements and habits.

Facial recognition systems to help track individuals? movements are also being considered.

[Brock]

If you don't have a small peener, you don't have anything to worry about.   

[mvpel]

Mr Yakamoto

The caption to the lower image in the article is offensive: "Rumbled ... US system 'strip-searches' smugglers" - no, the system 'strip searches' every victim, in the hope of finding a needle in the haystack, er, rather, a smuggler.

[Pat K]

If there is an after life, some were George Orwell is
Saying= damn I nailed it all.

[eques]

I foresee a market for clothing interwoven with metal.

[KBCraig]

I foresee a market for clothing interwoven with metal.

RennFairries have already met the market. 

[Lloyd Danforth]

I foresee a market for clothing interwoven with metal.

'Lead BVD's'

[lildog]

lenses in lampposts would snap ?naked? pictures of passers-by to trap terror suspects.

I am SO planning my next trip to England around when the women's gymnastic teams travel.   

[aries]

neat i hope nobody loses their lunch if the queen happens to walk by

plus there will be a whole new market for fat people to hide drugs and guns between their "rolls" !!!

[Quantrill]

plus there will be a whole new market for fat people to hide drugs and guns between their "rolls" !!!

Oh that is just WRONG!   

[aries]

plus there will be a whole new market for fat people to hide drugs and guns between their "rolls" !!!

Oh that is just WRONG!  

England will simply have to ban fatties! And food that makes people fat... for the safety of the nation...

[aries]

Funny, how an ounce of government intervention, creates a long line of problems and solutions that they feel they must handle... ban guns, people are unarmed... must increase surveillance. Surveillance countermeasures taken, must eliminate those. There are a million concievable ways to hide things, and only a few to actually observe them.

[lildog]

I was listening to a radio talk show yesterday that had the mayor of Boston on and after listening to some of the people calling in I'm convinced we need an IQ test before allowing people to vote.  There are people who are just out right scary.

One woman called in regarding the gun violence in Boston and completely serious suggested that the government supply school kids with light weight bullet proof school uniforms.   

Mayor mumbles (just listen to that guy talk) in turn suggested that the city crack down harder on "illegal" guns.  In nearly the same breath after saying he supports the 2nd Amendment and is ok with hunters owning their guns stated that Boston needed more gun laws.  He also turned around and said part of the problem is NH because just about anyone can walk into a gun shop and buy a gun.     And yet the crime rates in NH per capa are so much lower... I wonder if that ever occurred to him?

[mvpel]

The mayor's a liar or an idiot.

Gun shop firearms purchases in New Hampshire are governed by the same federal laws that apply in Massachusetts.  A gun shop in New Hampshire is a federal licensee just the same as a gun shop in Mass.  A buyer must fill out an ATF form with a felony penalty for falsification, undergo a criminal background check, and provide evidence of identity and residence.

Nobody, anywhere in this country, can simply "walk into a gun shop and buy a gun."

[aries]

The mayor's a liar or an idiot.

Gun shop firearms purchases in New Hampshire are governed by the same federal laws that apply in Massachusetts.  A gun shop in New Hampshire is a federal licensee just the same as a gun shop in Mass.  A buyer must fill out an ATF form with a felony penalty for falsification, undergo a criminal background check, and provide evidence of identity and residence.

Nobody, anywhere in this country, can simply "walk into a gun shop and buy a gun."

In Mass they have waiting periods and licensing. In NH you can just walk into a shop, fill out paperwork, wait for a phone call, and buy a gun.