conspiracy

[stitcherman]

As I have said about 911, a conspiracy this large is impossible to maintain in this day, and, for that matter, in 1969.  Add to this that the Soviets were monitoring everything we did, (probably had spies in NASA), and would have been thrilled to expose the U.S.
Due to lack of loyalty and the money that could be made, conspirators would be stepping all over each other trying to get in front of a camera.
I find it amusing that people who understand an economic system based on 'human nature', discount human nature in their conspiracy fantasy's.

polls for what they are worth say a third of americans believe 911 was covered up and do not believe the govt line. in europe and around the world the number is way way higher.

now with the soviets point taken; but that does not prove that man did walk on the moon. remember the soviet elite were gettin' a lot out of the cold war too

now let's see who owns the cameras and distribution of information.

money and resources are put into what the powers at be want to put in.

[KBCraig]

3  they just do not give a shit.

+1

6 they look at these posts , a slight snort of air comes out and move on in a trained response to imfo outside the matrix.

Trained response of their bullshit detectors.

8 they do not dare reply because of my debating skills.

Yeah, that's it. Your kung fu is strong, Masterdebater.

[Russell Kanning]

I find it amusing that people who understand an economic system based on 'human nature', discount human nature in their conspiracy fantasy's.

It is human nature for almost 100% of the people to be too scared to buck the system for fear of death, lose of job, lose of government pension.

[stitcherman]

6 they look at these posts , a slight snort of air comes out and move on in a trained response to imfo outside the matrix.

Trained response of their bullshit detectors.

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge"

                                                                             steven hawking

[Lloyd Danforth]

As I have said about 911, a conspiracy this large is impossible to maintain in this day, and, for that matter, in 1969.  Add to this that the Soviets were monitoring everything we did, (probably had spies in NASA), and would have been thrilled to expose the U.S.
Due to lack of loyalty and the money that could be made, conspirators would be stepping all over each other trying to get in front of a camera.
I find it amusing that people who understand an economic system based on 'human nature', discount human nature in their conspiracy fantasy's.

polls for what they are worth say a third of americans believe 911 was covered up and do not believe the govt line. in europe and around the world the number is way way higher.

now with the soviets point taken; but that does not prove that man did walk on the moon. remember the soviet elite were gettin' a lot out of the cold war too

now let's see who owns the cameras and distribution of information.

money and resources are put into what the powers at be want to put in.

I don't doubt there was some kind of cover up around 911.  It's just that many of the claims made about the govs involvement would have required hundreds of people for weeks before 911 to perform what they knew might kill thousands of people.  Short of imprisoning them (possibility)  or  1 or 2  of them killing the rest, I can't see the conspiracy holding together.
Kennedy was simple and obvious, Set up Oswald as one of the shooters or, to take the fall.  The, already, dying Ruby kills Oswald. Over the next few years some number (19, I think) that beats all mathematical probability of people involved in the case die.  The actual shooter who might also be the  guy who took out the 19th might be coming out with a book any year now ala Deep Throat.

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Lloyd, please stop bringing facts into this!

As for stitcherman, I don't know if he's just trolling, or what, especially since he seems to be so willing to completely ignore the facts to hold onto his "illusion of knowledge." Either way, the end result is the same.

[Russell Kanning]

more than 19 people knew/know what happened with Kennedy ... and they ain't tellin' .... in fact didn't they do a big fake document just like the 9/11 commission?

[Lloyd Danforth]

They only had to kill 19 or so.  Also, Loyalty was more prominent then.

[Russell Kanning]

I have seen alot of loyalty amongst fed workers on this forum, in person, and reported upon. Most generals wait until after they retire ... that might change soon.
Until the empire starts crumbling more ... the minions are sticking with the mob bosses.

[stitcherman]

Lloyd, please stop bringing facts into this!

As for stitcherman, I don't know if he's just trolling, or what, especially since he seems to be so willing to completely ignore the facts to hold onto his "illusion of knowledge." Either way, the end result is the same.

here is an illusion for ya. fit that car and the space suits and the actors with backpack in that "spaceship" with a place to  suit up. oh ya they brought other experiments with them too.

tis my assumption that you have not looked into or followed up on any links i have put up .

here is a fox tv 45 minutes done on the possibility of the hoax.  pretty well done but with lots of real points left out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484

woops let's add in fuel batteries and of course computers.

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[stitcherman]

"the bigger the lie, the easier it is for the public to believe it."

                                adolph hitler

[Russell Kanning]

I never noticed that car thing before. Is that lunar car supposed to have come from inside that lander? If that picture is accurate, then how could it fit.
Maybe it was a blowup toy. The actors just needed a foot pump.
It would have been easier if it didn't have a motor ... they could fred flintstone it.

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-1 for you all! It's like everyone suddenly forgot how to use Google and Wikipedia and the like, and have been mesmerized by the troll.

It was folded.

[Russell Kanning]

If it was crumpled in a ball ... it wouldn't fit.

[Russell Kanning]

you don't want to get into a karma battle with me ... I cheat I have even been called a forumnazi