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"REAL ID" won't have RFID, fingerprints, retinal scans or DNA

Started by error, March 01, 2007, 06:15 PM NHFT

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KBCraig

And even worse, what information the "REAL ID" does carry will be in the clear, not encrypted, available for most anyone to read and record.

Kevin

PowerPenguin

Mmm... Your stolen wealth at work for someone other than YOU! ;D

d_goddard

Real-ID would still be directly contrary to several provisions of existing NH law:
http://www.nhliberty.org/nh_law_vs_real_id

Also, the details of what machine-readable data are in the Real-ID card is left completely to the discretion of the Director of Homeland Security. As such, it does not matter how palatable the standards are for the initial adoption; the DHS can change them as and when he deems fit in the future.

"Here, take this, it won't hurt... at first...."
Or, as the lyrics to the TooL song go,
"This may hurt a little / but it's something you'll get used to"

Tyler Stearns

Quote from: d_goddard on March 02, 2007, 07:44 AM NHFT
Real-ID would still be directly contrary to several provisions of existing NH law:
http://www.nhliberty.org/nh_law_vs_real_id

Also, the details of what machine-readable data are in the Real-ID card is left completely to the discretion of the Director of Homeland Security. As such, it does not matter how palatable the standards are for the initial adoption; the DHS can change them as and when he deems fit in the future.

"Here, take this, it won't hurt... at first...."
Or, as the lyrics to the TooL song go,
"This may hurt a little / but it's something you'll get used to"

I could list constitutional objections all day.

Here is one from the NH Constitution:
[Art.] 7. [State Sovereignty.] The people of this state have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent state; and do, and forever hereafter shall, exercise and enjoy every power, jurisdiction, and right, pertaining thereto, which is not, or may not hereafter be, by them expressly delegated to the United States of America in congress assembled.

And how about the US Constitution while we are at it:
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

I think that satisfactorly shows the Real ID Act as an unconstitutional violation of our country's federalist government.

Rocketman

Quote from: d_goddard on March 02, 2007, 07:44 AM NHFT
Also, the details of what machine-readable data are in the Real-ID card is left completely to the discretion of the Director of Homeland Security. As such, it does not matter how palatable the standards are for the initial adoption; the DHS can change them as and when he deems fit in the future.

VERY IMPORTANT POINT!

error


Nicholas Gilman

#7
www.aamva.org/aamva/DocumentDisplay.aspx?id={66260AD6-64B9-45E9-A253-B8AA32241BE0}



QuoteB.4.5 Covert features
Although this annex deals mainly with security features that help officials to detect counterfeiting and fraudulent
alteration of cards, there is another class of security features that are covert (secret) features, designed to be
authenticated either by forensic examination or by specialist verification equipment. It is evident that knowledge
of the precise substance and structure of such features must be restricted to very few people on a "need to know"
basis. The purpose of these features is to enable authentication of cards where unequivocal proof of authenticity
is a requirement (e.g. in a Court of Law). DL/ID cards shall contain at least one covert level 3 security feature.
The feature must have absolute consistency of characteristics, be difficult to discover, be invisible to the human
eye, and require special equipment and training not commonly available in order to discover. The issuing
jurisdiction must insure that information about the covert feature is not made part of public record. Information
about the covert feature should be known to the absolute minimum number of people, but should be shared with
law enforcement laboratories that are accredited by the American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors (ASCLD)
and/or ISO 9000.


         This is from the AAMVA "wish list".    RFID would fit in this category nicely for the system.

CNHT


error


CNHT


Nicholas Gilman


    The AAMVA represents the highest echelon of system pencil pushers in all the land.
Its my job to hide the sharpener.

error

Someone here likes the AAMVA; they're smiting me again.

YixilTesiphon


Nicholas Gilman

    Someone has been smiting everyone recently.  I disregard the karma function in a forum.
I'd take the karma functin with a grain of salt.

Posting in a forum is one thing, supporting liberty at a protest or state house hearing
builds the karma that I'm concerned with right now.