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Julia and I are being investigated by the NH attorney genital.

Started by FTL_Ian, March 23, 2007, 11:49 AM NHFT

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powerchuter

I am a 100% free sovereign...
Voting will not change that one way or another...
I freely choose if/when/where/how I either assert my sovereignty or acquiesce to fight another day...

No matter how much you vote...and who you vote for...
You still can't obtain legitimate "authority" or "jurisdiction" over me or anyone else for that matter...

Perhaps, if you continue your journey, you will arrive at the place of peace that I call home...
It is a land without aggression...without one person trying to scheme to supposedly "rule" another...

Voting is such a scheme...illegitimate in every case...as one can never legally obtain involuntary "jurisdiction" over another...

It's pointless to attempt to "discuss" or "argue" legitimacy into it...
Perhaps someday you will reach this conclusion in your trek to non-aggression against others and total self-rule...

dalebert

Quote from: powerchuter on April 17, 2007, 11:01 PM NHFT
It's pointless to attempt to "discuss" or "argue" legitimacy into it...
Perhaps someday you will reach this conclusion in your trek to non-aggression against others and total self-rule...
I didn't argue the legitimacy of it. In fact, before I even made my point, I agreed it's not legitimate. The point I made is that the power exists and is being used in an immoral manner against us. A policeman has no legitimate authority over me. Regardless, if a seat belt law passes, he now has a power, backed up by the mob, to fine me. If I ignore the fine, which I believe to be nonsense, the penalty starts to escalate. The policeman, the law, the fine, the team of policemen that eventually come to arrest me, are all examples of force being used against me. Voting against the law is, in your knife machine analogy, a reasonable attempt to remove some of the ammo from the knife machine. Voting is a use of force, but it's a justified use of force if you're defending yourself and others from the force that is the seat belt law.

Now if you believe it's wrong to shoot people in absolutely all cases no matter what, then you would be consistent to apply that principle to voting. I don't know where you stand when it comes to the use of guns in self-defense. You may be a total pacifist and that's fine. So does that mean that if a person is shooting at you, you would not shoot back? You would let him kill you in order to stay true to your pacifist philosophy? If the answer is "no", then you're not being consistent.

lordmetroid

Perhaps you all should send in a notice to the government office that you are stepping out of society, muck like theNotice of Understanding and Intent and Claim of Right on thinkfree.ca . Make it clear to them that you aren't going to be a part of their society as described very good by this metaphor of a freesociety.

FTL_Ian

The city clerk called me on Monday.

She informed me that they had alerted the Attorney Genital to the fact that I'd crossed out this paragraph on the voter registration form:
QuoteIn declaring New Hampshire as my domicile, I am subject to the laws of the State of New Hampshire which
apply to all residents, including laws requiring me to register my motor vehicles and apply for a New
Hampshire?s driver?s license within 60 days of becoming a resident.

I told her I was aware as they had come all the way out from Concord to ask me questions about it.  She said that they had never heard back from the AG and I told her, "Funny, neither have we."  She then proceeded to ask me to come back in and fill out another voter registration form.  Before I could tell her that I would just simply cross that paragraph out again she informed me that the legislators had changed the form to remove the paragraph!

Did my refusal to consent have anything to do with them changing the form?  I may never know, but the fact is that paragraph no longer exists on New Hampshire's state voter registration form!   8)

David


shyfrog

Very cool
:icon_pirat:
But then why the need to fill out a new form??

d_goddard

Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 29, 2007, 01:36 PM NHFT
she informed me that the legislators had changed the form to remove the paragraph!

Did my refusal to consent have anything to do with them changing the form?

No. You are merely a lucky accidental side-effect of Rep. Weed's efforts to allow people to vote early and often, independent of their actual State of residence.
You may want to call him up or email him, and thank him for his work in this regard:
     Rep. Chuck Weed
     Phone: (603)352-8309
     Email: cweed@keene.edu

slim

Quote from: shyfrog on August 29, 2007, 02:49 PM NHFT
Very cool
:icon_pirat:
But then why the need to fill out a new form??
Bureaucrats just want the forms filled out properly when that is done they can eat dough nuts  >:D

Neal Jiutai

Good job, you two.

In Florida, we have a similar Oath on our voter registration:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Florida, that I am qualified to register as an elector under the Constitution and laws of the State of Florida, and that all information provided in this application is true.

So when I re-registered recently as a Republican (closed primary state), not only did I cross that out, but I also wrote above my signature "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207", which is the same as stating "Under Duress."

And never have I gotten back my voter registration card faster.
No troubles at all.  ;D

d_goddard

Quote from: naconner on September 04, 2007, 02:26 AM NHFT
not only did I cross that out, but I also wrote above my signature "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207", which is the same as stating "Under Duress."
My god.... either you have been talking with armlaw too much, or you're going to have entirely too much in common with him when you get up here :)

Dan

Quote from: d_goddard on August 29, 2007, 04:03 PM NHFT
...  Rep. Weed's efforts to allow people to vote early and often, independent of their actual State of residence.

Does that mean I can vote for Ron Paul early and often on primary day in NH, even from Rhode Island?   >:D

armlaw

Quote from: d_goddard on September 04, 2007, 07:03 AM NHFT
Quote from: naconner on September 04, 2007, 02:26 AM NHFT
not only did I cross that out, but I also wrote above my signature "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207", which is the same as stating "Under Duress."
My god.... either you have been talking with armlaw too much, or you're going to have entirely too much in common with him when you get up here :)


When the Feds changed their UCC section from 1-207 to 1-308, New Hampshire had to update their "CODE", so that is what took place last year. I had to buy new stamps that have the "new" section effective Jan, 1, 2007 "Without Prejudice"  RSA 382-A: 1-308, UCC 1-308 & RSA-A: 1-103 . I sign NOTHING without a reservation of all rights and the imprint of my self-inking stamp ABOVE my signature. IT can never be clipped off without removing my signature with it.

d_goddard

Quote from: sjhipple on September 07, 2007, 10:24 PM NHFT
Quote from: naconner on September 04, 2007, 02:26 AM NHFT
I also wrote above my signature "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207", which is the same as stating "Under Duress."
Could someone explain this to me?  What's the purpose/effect of writing that on anything?
Read the above armlaw post, and prepare to be Marpleized

The Anti-Assemblage

I went in to the Peterborough Clerk's Office today and registered "Undeclared". The offending paragraph was on their copy of the form. I questioned the woman at the desk regarding the paragraph and she informed me it was the latest form. I then crossed out the paragraph, signed it, and handed it over. She informed me they would contact me if I needed to fill out the form again  >:(

Anyone else have more info regarding this?

shyfrog

Oops...that post was from me, not my daughter...

Quote from: The Anti-Assemblage on September 13, 2007, 11:40 AM NHFT
I went in to the Peterborough Clerk's Office today and registered "Undeclared". The offending paragraph was on their copy of the form. I questioned the woman at the desk regarding the paragraph and she informed me it was the latest form. I then crossed out the paragraph, signed it, and handed it over. She informed me they would contact me if I needed to fill out the form again  >:(

Anyone else have more info regarding this?