Florida Sex Offenders Living under a bridge

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Bonus question: is the bridge within 2,500 feet of a 'place where children gather'?

It's a good half mile or more to get to anything.

Another example of that being; in many traditional hawaiian families the last son born is typically raised as a female.

How do they know when they've had the last son?

Menopause.

[Rochelle]

I agree that we should try to prevent pedophiles from abusing children, but I believe there should be rational limits to how far we would go.

Consider the fact that most children who are abused will be abused by family members--does this mean we should take away all children from parents and have them raised by certified caregivers? I doubt anyone on these boards would agree with that.

Similarly, these sex offenders are on parole--they have spent time in prison, but are now forbidden to live a normal life because of the law, so society still considers them an outcast. How will this prevent them from committing further crimes? What kind of good will come from these laws.

The criminals we should really fear when it comes to our kids are those who come out of nowhere, kidnap, rape and murder your child because they're impossible to predict and prevent. But because of this, these are the ones that we will never catch and the less worrisome ones who look at kiddie porn or teachers who sleep with students and so on and so forth.

[Skooma]

So, from child abusers to bridge trolls.

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What nobody's ever been able to explain to me is how preventing someone from spending their NIGHTS within X thousand feet of an UNOCCUPIED school, park, or whatever, is supposed to prevent sex crime. After all, you're talking about where people SLEEP, not exactly where they spend their days.

[Rochelle]

What nobody's ever been able to explain to me is how preventing someone from spending their NIGHTS within X thousand feet of an UNOCCUPIED school, park, or whatever, is supposed to prevent sex crime. After all, you're talking about where people SLEEP, not exactly where they spend their days.

Sshhh, Error. The government decided it, they know what's best, so obviously it makes sense!

[error]

What nobody's ever been able to explain to me is how preventing someone from spending their NIGHTS within X thousand feet of an UNOCCUPIED school, park, or whatever, is supposed to prevent sex crime. After all, you're talking about where people SLEEP, not exactly where they spend their days.

Sshhh, Error. The government decided it, they know what's best, so obviously it makes sense!

The government knows best? You're funny. I know what's best. For me.

[aries]

Its sick what theyre doing to these people

Most of them were probably convicted of statutory rape or child porn posession, neither of which should be criminal anyway... and even so, we dont make MURDERERS live like that, theres no reason to make rapists do so except out of pure sadism. You dont have to like or tolerate the people but forbidding them economic freedom in such a harsh way, AFTER getting out of prison, is unjust.

[Raineyrocks]

I am probably going to get shot down on here but I will post my feelings on the subject anyway.  I don't have any sympathy for real child molesters and I think the parents should get to decide what happens to them if the victims are too young to decide.  I agree that the cases were a 19 year old boy for instance has consentual sex with a 15 year old girl should not even be in the court system but these scumbags that go around raping little kids are sickos.  They probably ruined the little kids life forever so who gives a crap if their lives are ruined?
Also I think possessing child porn should be a crime, Aries.  Obliviously somebody took creepy pictures of little kids and some creep, sicko is looking at them, when did the child say,"okay I want you to take these pictures of me"?  I'm not talking about pictures of a kid taking a bath or walking around without a diaper even though I must ask, who would spread those pictures around?  If I have cute naked pictures of my kids taking a bath I'm not going to pass them around or post them on the internet.  Those are not the kind of pictures I'm talking about anyway.
Sorry if I'm coming off unfair to some of you or judgmental but I just don't get where the sympathy is coming from here for these jerks.  They serve their jail time and it should be all over for them, their poor ordeal, bull crap, what about the children that it will never be over for?
I agree that too much time is wasted on the 19 and 16 year olds consenting sex cases and the cops should focus on the real child molesters Rochelle, but I don't agree that children should stay with their abusing family members either if they are molesting their children.  I don't have the answers as to where the kids should go if that's happening because look at all the foster care perverts.

I guess what I'm saying is of course I don't have all the answers, shit, I wish I did but I have no sympathy for these sickos that molest little children.
I'm ready, blast away!

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The problem is that the sickos raping little children are quite rare, compared to the vast majority of "sex offenders" who are PAINTED as "sickos raping little children" but are 18.001 year olds "raping" their 15.999 year old "child" (girlfriend) or worse, they're married.

[Raineyrocks]

The problem is that the sickos raping little children are quite rare, compared to the vast majority of "sex offenders" who are PAINTED as "sickos raping little children" but are 18.001 year olds "raping" their 15.999 year old "child" (girlfriend) or worse, they're married.

I don't know the statistics of little children being raped vs. the 18 yr. olds "raping" their 15 yr. old girlfriends but I do know that there is a lot of information about missing children being sold or forced into sex slavery rings, (The Franklin Cover up), is one source of information regarding this and there are more sources than that. I agree that the 18 yr old vs. 15 yr old girlfriend sex offender charges are ridiculous and do scar innocent people for a lifetime.  My discussion was geared more to the pedophiles that harm little children and I feel no sympathy for their living conditions in jail or out.

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We're not going to get anywhere on this issue as long as people continue to lump together the innocent people with the pedophiles.

[SpeedPhreak]

We're not going to get anywhere on this issue as long as people continue to lump together the innocent people with the pedophiles.

Exactly they are apples to oranges... but the way laws are written they are not only both apples but both washington apples.

[dalebert]

This is not about being sympathetic to child molestors!

RaineyRocks, you're missing the point, and until you get it, you're part of the problem. It's bothering me that you think that one must be sympathetic to think this is a stupid practice. You're one of those wishy-washy people (just on this subject; not making a personal opinion about you overall) who are perpetuating nonsense like this.

Look, for the ones that actually molested children, I won't lose any sleep if we decide to put a bullet in their heads. I have no problem with very harsh judgments for child molesters. I'm just saying GET OFF THE FENCE. If we decide it's ok to let them out of jail then let them out, PERIOD, or put them back in for good. Either one is fine with me. If they truly are a danger to children, locking them up is the only thing that's sufficient to keep children safe. This is an illusion of safety. Some of those guys may have done something truly awful to a child. In that case, I don't care that he's suffering, but I'm disturbed that he's free and can molest again. Keep him locked up and make room in the prisons by legalizing pot. For the ones who maybe had sex with a 15-year old who wore lots of make-up and told him she was 18, then just let them out, for crying out loud. Fine him $500 or something and tell him to check IDs in the future. *shrug*

[Raineyrocks]

This is not about being sympathetic to child molestors!

RaineyRocks, you're missing the point, and until you get it, you're part of the problem. It's bothering me that you think that one must be sympathetic to think this is a stupid practice. You're one of those wishy-washy people (just on this subject; not making a personal opinion about you overall) who are perpetuating nonsense like this.

Look, for the ones that actually molested children, I won't lose any sleep if we decide to put a bullet in their heads. I have no problem with very harsh judgments for child molesters. I'm just saying GET OFF THE FENCE. If we decide it's ok to let them out of jail then let them out, PERIOD, or put them back in for good. Either one is fine with me. If they truly are a danger to children, locking them up is the only thing that's sufficient to keep children safe. This is an illusion of safety. Some of those guys may have done something truly awful to a child. In that case, I don't care that he's suffering, but I'm disturbed that he's free and can molest again. Keep him locked up and make room in the prisons by legalizing pot. For the ones who maybe had sex with a 15-year old who wore lots of make-up and told him she was 18, then just let them out, for crying out loud. Fine him $500 or something and tell him to check IDs in the future. *shrug*

Sorry if I took some of the posts that way if they weren't.  Your saying the same thing I was trying to say, (I think), I totally agree with the 15-year old and 18-year old scenario that you put forth here, I said that in my post.  I think what your saying is either lock them up , (the real sickos), or after they've served their sentence let them be and there's where I have the problem.  How could just letting them be when they get out be okay?  I'm all for locking them up for good so they can't hurt anymore children.  The justice system is all screwed up when they incarcarate someone for 20 years for getting caught with pot but let child molesters out in 1 year or so.  I'm disturbed that the sicko is free to molest again also and all for making more room in prisons by legalizing pot too.  So where are we differing here?  How am I being wishy-washy?
I'm not arguing with you or offended I just don't understand how I gave the impression of being wishy-washy.  The sympathy comments from me were because it "seemed" to me that some people were feeling sorry for the child molesters and I was assuming the sicko perverts not 15 or 18 year olds that are now living under a bridge. How am I part of the problem?  If I worded my other post in a certain way that gave you that impression let me know so at least I can understand what I wrote the wrong way.

I agree too that the 15-18 - year old scenario should not be lumped in with the rapers of little children and making a law treating them the same is disgusting so I'm not lumping together innocent people with pedophiles.

[MaineShark]

I think what your saying is either lock them up , (the real sickos), or after they've served their sentence let them be and there's where I have the problem.  How could just letting them be when they get out be okay?  I'm all for locking them up for good so they can't hurt anymore children.  The justice system is all screwed up when they incarcarate someone for 20 years for getting caught with pot but let child molesters out in 1 year or so.  I'm disturbed that the sicko is free to molest again also and all for making more room in prisons by legalizing pot too.  So where are we differing here?  How am I being wishy-washy?

I think what folks are saying is that, instead of supporting the "registry" laws, they'd prefer if you supported longer sentences or other punishments, instead.  Personally, if anyone molests my child(ren), they better hope the law catches them, because living on a bridge would be heaven compared to what I'd do to them...

Joe