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When will libertarians stop crying about private roads?
It won't happen for a long time.... we need to focus on other things..

When will libertarians stop crying about private schools?
It won't happen for a long time.... we need to focus on other things..

When will libertarians stop crying about private health care?
It won't happen for a long time.... we need to focus on other things..

When will libertarians stop crying about private charity?
It won't happen for a long time.... we need to focus on other things..

[Dreepa]

So you think that the vast amount of the populace is ready for private roads?

I am simply saying that focus should be maintained on things where something will happen instead of worrying about items that won't happen for a long time.

[lildog]

So you think that the vast amount of the populace is ready for private roads?

At least in the case of roads the US Constitution gives the government that responsibility.  In the case of things like health care etc they are going far beyond their duties.

[Pat McCotter]

So you think that the vast amount of the populace is ready for private roads?

At least in the case of roads the US Constitution gives the government that responsibility.  In the case of things like health care etc they are going far beyond their duties.

Article 1, Section 8: "general welfare"

[Lloyd Danforth]

So you think that the vast amount of the populace is ready for private roads?

I am simply saying that focus should be maintained on things where something will happen instead of worrying about items that won't happen for a long time.

One should focus on obtainable goals, but, maintain the debate on things like road privatization, because every time it comes up someone learns about the concept who has never heard of it. Also, by fleshing out the subject, a system of road privatization can be sculpted that covers all the 'what if's'.

[mvpel]

So you think that the vast amount of the populace is ready for private roads?

At least in the case of roads the US Constitution gives the government that responsibility.  In the case of things like health care etc they are going far beyond their duties.

Article 1, Section 8: "general welfare"

Article 1, Section 8: "To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"  ???

[Mark]

As far as the cops are conserned, yes.

BTW if drunk driving wasn't illegal it's likely most drunks would drive slower.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/crovelli5.html

Absolutely. The drunk drivers are such a responsible crew that we can be pretty confident that they would drive slowly while shitfaced.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Well....maybe the professionals.  The kids probably won't.

[tracysaboe]

Well....maybe the professionals.  The kids probably won't.

That's true!  I knew a person who drunk so much, that he actually drove better when he was drunk. He got pulled over one time because his taillight was out  The cop smelled alchohol and told him to take a breatheralizer test. They said he should have been dead of alchahole poisoning with all the alchahol in his system.

Never had an accident in his life.

Tracy

[tracysaboe]

Now, if roads were privately owned, the owners could set their own policies and expell people they felt were a danger to their other customers.

When will libertarians stop crying about private roads?
It won't happen for a long time.... we need to focus on other things..

Because every damb time I start talking about how government is evil and the free market can do things better, the 1st objection I always hear is "Government does some good things? They build roads. Do you want to be driving on dirt roads? etc"

The implication is that if government didn't build roads we'd all still be driving on dirt trails. They have know idea that pavement wasn't invented by government, No idea that the vast majority of road building is pork-barreling, etc.

It helps to be able to be consistant and respond to this knee-jerk retort by being consistant and point out that government doesn't even to that very well.  Instead we get pot-hole-filled roads, and multiple accidents a day, a police state who can pull you over for any reason, real or contrive, and government cameras watching your every move while your on "their" roads.

Tracy

[tracysaboe]

As far as the cops are conserned, yes.

BTW if drunk driving wasn't illegal it's likely most drunks would drive slower.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/crovelli5.html

Absolutely. The drunk drivers are such a responsible crew that we can be pretty confident that they would drive slowly while shitfaced.

You talk as if you didn't even read the article.

Tracy

[LiveFree]

Tracy, I don't mean to be a dick here, just throwing something out there.  But do you think the "police state" mentality on roads would be even worse if they were private, depending on the owners, of course?  Do you think that the surveillance camera issue would be even worse if roads were private?

[tracysaboe]

It's not in a companies financial best interest to harass their customers. Or their customers will use alternatives, and they'll loose business. Highway entrapreneurs would be balancing customer service, with security, just like every other free market business.

Tracy

[Dreepa]

Tracy, I don't mean to be a dick here, just throwing something out there.  But do you think the "police state" mentality on roads would be even worse if they were private, depending on the owners, of course?  Do you think that the surveillance camera issue would be even worse if roads were private?

If I spent a $1B on a road.. I would certainly have cameras on it and probably force people to have something like a fastlane transponder.

[Lloyd Danforth]

You mean require