Bar Shooting in Manchester

[grasshopper]

  This is very sad.   22 killed and the a$$Hole committed suicide.  This stuff makes me angry.  I want to know what that a##hole had for a rap sheet.

[error]

  This is very sad.   22 killed and the a$$Hole committed suicide.  This stuff makes me angry.  I want to know what that a##hole had for a rap sheet.

It's doubly sad because we all know it didn't have to happen like that.

[Recumbent ReCycler]

Witnesses said they saw a .45 caliber handgun lying on the street about 20 feet from the club's rear door. Police said they recovered the .45 caliber handgun allegedly used by Encarnacion along with the patron's handgun.

I hope this guy gets his handgun back soon.  I can't really see much of a reason to disarm a guy who just saved someone's life.

Agreed, and also one more very good reason to own at least TWO portable weapons suitable for self-defense. >.<

Yeah, although when I was carrying more than one pistol in Manchester, the police gave me a hard time, and held onto all of the guns that I had with me until they got verification from the ATF that one of them was legal.  They told me that they didn't think there was any legitimate reason for anyone to carry more than one pistol on them at any given time.  I'm glad I had a spare in the car just in case.


RSA 637:7-a prohibits someone from removing a serial number from a device, and RSA 159:13 prohibits removing the serial number or other manufacturers marks from a pistol or revolver, but there is no law that prohibits "possession of a firearm without a serial number".  Most likely Encarnacion defaced the serial number or purchase the pistol from someone who defaced the serial number, and is being charged with a violation of RSA 159:13.  A person can legally make a firearm from scratch without a serial number for their own use.  If the police told Kathryn Marchocki that Encarnacion was being charged with possession of a firearm without a serial number, it is because they are ignorant of what the law actually says.  I have seen Manchester cops trying to enforce nonexistent laws while breaking existing laws themselves, so unless told otherwise, I am going to assume that the cops misquoted the actual charge and the reporter didn't bother to look up the actual statute.

159:13 Changing Marks. ? No person shall change, alter, remove or obliterate the name of the maker, model, manufacturer's number or other mark of identification on any pistol or revolver. Possession of any such firearms upon which the same shall have been changed, altered, removed or obliterated shall be presumptive evidence that such possessor has changed, altered, removed or obliterated the same. Any person who violates the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

[Insurgent]

It's only a misdemeanor for that? Huh.

[KBCraig]

It's only a misdemeanor until they call the ATF (and you better believe that will be hanging over your head).

[Lloyd Danforth]

Damn Kevin!  You beat me by seconds!

[firecracker joe]

i think he deserves a medal. knowing the cops around here they'll probably charge him with some bullshit charge just to show the people that they don't condone that kind of actions of vigilanteism.We need more hero's like him.

[Insurgent]

I agree; I really think that some Manchester residents should organize a parade and medal-bestowing. Practically every Free Stater would march in that and a heck of a lot of others, too 

[powerchuter]

GREAT idea!  I don't know how much I'll be able to contribute but I'll see what I can do.  This may even get a positive review in the Union Leader...

Union Leader my ass...lol.

I'm going for the Associated Press!

"All the way baby!"

[MaineShark]

If every FSP member donated $2.00 we could buy him a Barrett Model 82A1, ammunition, and some accessories!

Of course it wouldn't exactly fit in his shoulder holster...lol.

If every current "in-state" Porcupine donated even just $1.00 each that would be $458 and with my $100.00 pledge that would be enough to purchase a decent firearm at Riley's.

Of course we won't get even a dollar from most people so those who really value this will have to shoulder the load for the rest of the bunch...

Hasn't it always been that way...
The extreme sacrifices of a few...
Benefiting the masses...

Hey, let's show this state what we're made of!

Live Free Or Die!

I'm imagining a non-profit organization that rewards people who defend themselves and others.  How would that be for a tax-deductible donation?

Joe

[powerchuter]

Hi Joe,
I appreciate your consideration but I would be totally against asking the government's permission for any activity including "non-profit" type things...

The most important part of our journey is disconnecting from that fraudulent structure(matrix) and we should all try our best to exchange our talents for anonymous compensations such as barter, silver, gold, lead, blued steel, and/or some of that funny money that the jack-booted counterfeiters print more of each day...

Nice to see you and the family on Sunday!

Rob

[MaineShark]

I appreciate your consideration but I would be totally against asking the government's permission for any activity including "non-profit" type things...

The most important part of our journey is disconnecting from that fraudulent structure(matrix) and we should all try our best to exchange our talents for anonymous compensations such as barter, silver, gold, lead, blued steel, and/or some of that funny money that the jack-booted counterfeiters print more of each day...

Nice to see you and the family on Sunday!

I wasn't saying that we should ask anyone's permission.  Just start up a non-profit organization on our own.  It would be amusing, though, if people could deduct that kind of donation from their taxes.  Imagine the look on an auditer's face!

Did you guys get that Mossberg put back together after we left?

Joe

[powerchuter]

No, that shell rack on the side of the receiver was missing a nut for the forward retaining screw(which then backed out into the interior of the receiver area causing the works to tighten up and jam).  He will have to get a new nut and we'll get it cleaned up and back together...

[MaineShark]

No, that shell rack on the side of the receiver was missing a nut for the forward retaining screw(which then backed out into the interior of the receiver area causing the works to tighten up and jam).  He will have to get a new nut and we'll get it cleaned up and back together...

Yeah, you guys were just going to go searching for the missing piece when we had to leave.  Wasn't sure if it had been found inside the rack or not.

Joe

[Insurgent]

More details to the story...


At least nine shots fired in Uptown Tavern shooting

By PAT GROSSMITH
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff
7 hours, 48 minutes ago

At least nine bullets were fired in a shootout Saturday morning at a downtown bar that ended with the gunman who allegedly instigated the shooting hospitalized after he was shot twice by another customer.

About 50 people were inside the Uptown Tavern, 1301 Elm St., at 12:45 a.m. Saturday when the shooting happened, sending customers diving to the floor for cover.

Police said Eliezer Encarnacion, 26, of 214 Bremer St., Apt. 2, fired a .45-caliber semiautomatic handgun about a half-dozen times at two bouncers and the assistant manager standing in a rear doorway.

Customer Kenneth Gage then pulled out his Kel Tec .380 semiautomatic handgun and fired it three times, hitting Encarnacion twice, according to court records.

Police did not release Gage's age or address. He told police he pulled out his gun and fired it after Encarnacion shot at the bouncers and at him.

Encarnacion and Adrian Brown, 32, of 46 Dover St., Apt. 8, were drinking in the upstairs lounge when one of them inappropriately touched a woman, and they were asked to leave, David Somers, who co-owns the bar, told the New Hampshire Sunday News.

According to court records, bouncer Erick Turner said Brown became confrontational as he was removing him from the bar and assistant manager Jeremy Tinker came to his aid, as did Chad Chapman, another bouncer.

As they were escorting the two Virgin Islands natives out of the bar, Brown allegedly punched Chapman in the face several times.

Chapman grabbed him by the neck and began walking him out the rear door, according to Det. Stacy Howe's affidavit. Then Chapman heard the "cocking" action of a semiautomatic handgun and turned to see Encarnacion pointing a black gun directly at him.

Chapman dove back into the bar to avoid being shot.

Witness Travis Smith heard two gunshots and told police everybody in the bar "hit the deck." Then he heard several other gunshots and saw two black men run out the back door.

Smith and his friends chased after them, catching up to the wounded Encarnacion, who fell to the ground at Myrtle Street. Smith stayed with him until police arrived.

Witness Andre Dupont was outside the bar when he saw two black men near the rear entrance yelling. One of them pulled a black gun from his waistband and fired it six or seven times in two separate bursts, Dupont said.

After the second volley of gunshots, Gage told police he pulled out his gun and fired it at Encarnacion and Brown. Gage told investigators he was uncertain if one or both of the men had guns and were firing them.

Just before the shooting, Gage told police, he saw two bouncers arguing with Brown and Encarnacion. He learned one of them was a boxer and decided to walk over near the bouncers in case they needed help.

In 1999, Adrian Brown trained at the Queen City Boxing Gym. He and his four brothers were all involved in boxing and he and older brother, Gilbert Brown, both captured New England Golden Gloves championships.

One of the bouncers was trying to get Brown and Encarnacion out the rear door when a fight broke out, Gage said, and one of them began shooting directly at the bouncers and at him.

Gage, who voluntarily surrendered his gun to police, told investigators he was amazed no one was hit.

Police recovered six .45-caliber casings and three spent .380-caliber casings from the area where Encarnacion was standing at the time of the shooting. They also recovered the .45-caliber handgun.

Two fresh bullet holes were in the wall of the 4-by-4-foot alcove where Chapman, Tinker and Turner were standing.

Encarnacion has been charged in the shooting and is being detained on $100,000 cash/surety bail. He is to return to court on April 26 for a probable cause hearing and again on June 25 for a trial.

Brown, who was stopped by police at the intersection of Pine and Orange streets, pleaded innocent in Manchester District Court to simple assault, accusing him of punching Chapman in the face.

He told the judge he didn't know why he was being charged with anything. "I heard gunshots and I ran," he said. "I'm innocent."

Brown has a 1 1/2-to-3-year deferred jail sentence pending, which stems from a cocaine-related conviction in January in Hillsborough County Superior Court, according to the prosecutor.

His bail is $2,000 cash/surety. He is to return to court on June 28.